The Kingdom and the Long Game of Love are themes woven throughout this engaging conversation. Dubb and Jason explore the transformative journey of faith, emphasizing the goodness of God and the importance of understanding His nature.

They discuss the shift from desperation to intimacy in their relationship with God, the impact of fatherhood on their theology, and the role of creativity and storytelling in expressing faith.

The conversation also touches on the significance of community support in navigating faith challenges and the long-term vision of love and transformation in culture.

For more on Dubb Alexander

Website: www.schoolofkingdom.com

For more on Jason Clark

Website: www.afamilystory.org

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Podcast intro and outro music by Wilde Assembly