America is not new to political violence, but the near-assassination of Donald Trump is an attack without comparison in 21st-century politics. How do  process it? What happens next? And how true are the claims, as President Joe Biden put it in the immediate aftermath of the shooting, that “this is not who we are?”

For this bonus episode of Radio Atlantic, guest host Adam Harris speaks with staff writer Anne Applebaum and executive editor Adrienne LaFrance. Both have written and reported extensively about political violence in America and abroad.

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