The Long View

Many of the burning questions about how Australia can best recover from the COVID-19 crisis revolve around our industry and innovation policy settings.

This week on The Long View, Clare is joined by two incredibly experienced thinkers on industry and innovation: Simon Crean, former Labor leader, ACTU president and minister in the Hawke, Keating, Rudd and Gillard governments, and Roy Green, Emeritus Professor, Deputy Vice Chancellor at UTS and globally recognised expert on this subject.

There's little doubt that government will be involved in our economy for years to come, but how will it be involved? And what will it do to get us back on track?

COVID-19 has ignited a national discussion about our economic sovereignty, with many Australians asking whether there are some things that we should be able to produce in our country that we cannot today.

There is an almost tangible yearning for manufacturing in Australia, an industry that has suffered from years of neglect. If we're going to revive manufacturing in Australia, what will that look like and what should we be focused on making here?

At a broader level, COVID-19 is giving Australians a chance to step back and look at our economy. Is the kind of growth we're generating the right kind - the kind that will lead to a better standard of living for the next generation?

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This week on The Long View, Clare is joined by Ged Kearney, a nurse, former President of the ACTU and now Federal Labor MP for Cooper, and Sara Charlesworth, Professor at RMIT and Director of the Centre for People, Organisation and Work, to discuss some of the challenges faced by women in the workforce, and the ways in which the COVID-19 pandemic has brought them to the fore.

For many Australians the experience they have during the COVID-19 crisis will depend greatly on whether they are male or female.

Women are more likely to be on the frontline, in health or caring roles. They're more likely to have lost work since the crisis began, and are more likely to fall short of being eligible for JobKeeper. They're more likely to be doing the lion's share of the additional domestic work at home, and they're more likely to be in a situation of domestic violence.

These disproportionate impacts tell us something important about the country that we live in. Men and women perform different roles in Australian society. Is that the society we want to live in? When work such as aged care and early learning are so crucial to the functioning of our community, why are these workers so poorly paid? And in a modern, forward-thinking country like Australia, why does so much of the domestic burden fall on women's shoulders?

COVID-19 has caused some of these longstanding problems to become amplified, but has it also given us the opportunity to look at them with fresh eyes and change some of these dynamics?

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COVID-19 has reshaped how many Australians use digital technology. Will these changes last? And what will it mean for how we live and work long term? How can we use COVID to generate jobs of the future for the next generation?

This week on The Long View, Clare chats with two legends of the Australian startup community: Paul Bassat, co-founder and partner at Square Peg Capital, and Didier Elzinga, CEO and founder of Culture Amp. The tech sector is used to disruption and adapting to change, but the COVID-19 crisis has redefined those concepts, so what will be the long term impacts for the digital economy in Australia?

There are a lot of big questions being asked across the public and private sectors about what Australia's economy should look like after the coronavirus crisis is over. Will we successfully reboot old industries that have naturally declined in Australia, such as manufacturing? What about the new industries and our digital economy?

Innovation and technology have always been crucial in considering how we create a brighter future for Australia, but with COVID-19 resulting in a whole heap of wicked problems to solve, the startup ecosystem might be where we will find some of our solutions.

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What will the nature of government and the practice of politics look like on the other side of COVID-19? This week I am fortunate to be joined on The Long View by Barrie Cassidy and Steve Bracks to discuss how Australia's democratic institutions are weathering this crisis and how they might emerge from it better than ever.

People's faith in government and politics has been in decline for over a decade, but as the COVID-19 crisis threatens the health and economic prospects of millions of Australians, trust in government and our political leaders has rejuvenated.

Have Australians decided our democracy is actually in pretty good shape, or will we soon see cynicism creep back in during the coronavirus recovery? What can we do to ensure we take the right lessons from our recent past and give the Australian electorate confidence to keep the faith?

Barrie and Steve bring a wealth of political experience to this discussion. Barrie reflecting on his days of dealing with crises as Bob Hawke's press secretary, Steve discussing the challenges of cooperation between state and federal governments as Premier of Victoria. They also share some insightful thoughts on the opportunities for improving Australia's democracy post-COVID.

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In this week's episode of The Long View we survey the international landscape. I'm joined by Greg Sheridan, foreign editor at The Australian since 1992, and Michael Bachelard, editor and former Indonesia correspondent for The Age. We discuss the good, the bad and the ugly of globalisation for Australia in the time of Coronavirus.

COVID-19 has brought the globalisation project under an intense level of scrutiny. International borders are closed and nations are responding to the virus independently. The WHO is under fire, supply chains disrupted and the future of trade and tourism shrouded in doubt.

Proponents of globalisation say it can be resuscitated post-COVID, while critics say our level of global integration can never be the same again. More importantly, what version of globalisation would be in Australia's best interests on the other side of this crisis?

We get stuck into Canberra, Beijing, Jakarta, Geneva, Washington and more. Are we ready for a world post COVID-19 or terribly underprepared?

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The Australian Government's response to COVID has created a mountain of public debt. And there is a lot more to come.

In this episode of The Long View, Clare chats with Emma Dawson from Per Capita and Danielle Wood from the Grattan Institute about what this means for Australia.

Is public debt bad? Do we really need to pay it back? Who should pay it back? How? When? How does Australia's balance sheet compare to other countries? And why has it been so hard for Australian treasurers of recent times to deliver a surplus?

Clare, Danielle and Emma chew over these conundrums, as well as unpacking Modern Monetary Theory, opinion polls, land tax, and what it might take to get Australia out of the economic hole COVID will leave it in.

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In this week's episode of The Long View, Clare discusses economic reform with Tim Reed, President of the Business Council of Australia, and Andrew Charlton, economist and founder of AlphaBeta Advisers.

As Australia's health numbers on COVID improve (long may it last) the conversation in policy circles has focused squarely on economic reform.

But what should we be trying to achieve through reform, what might it look like, and how do we make sure the changes we make benefit everyone?

Clare, Tim and Andrew also tackle a few curly questions: When business complain about regulation, are they just trying to get out of following the law? Is digital technology really the answer to all our problems? And how do we stop sacred cows from breeding and multiplying?

Tune in for a Long View perspective on where we might end up if the COVID crisis allowed us to fix a bunch of economic problems that have been holding Australia back for a long time.

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In this first episode of The Long View, Clare has a chat with two of Australia's most respected economists: Professor Jeff Borland from Melbourne University, and Danielle Wood from the Grattan Institute.

Together, they explore the impact of the COVID-19 crisis on employment, and contemplate what the labour market might look like on the other side.

In a wide-ranging discussion, Clare, Jeff and Danielle open some big cans of worms: Who is losing work right now and why? How will the picture change over the coming year? How are the impacts of coronavirus different for low skill workers vs high skill workers? Will gender inequality be further entrenched - and what is 'time inequality'?

And, are today's young people economically doomed? What can we do about it?

With pit stops to discuss books and bread baking, this fascinating conversation will leave you with much food for thought about what we want our labour market to look like on the other side of this crisis, and how we might get there.

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The Long View is a new podcast where I'll be talking to some of Australia's brightest minds and deepest thinkers about what coronavirus-and our response to it-might mean for the future of our country.

What jobs will Australians work in? What will our economy look like? How big will the state be? How will entrepreneurship and innovation be transformed? What new opportunities do we have to solve big national problems? And how on earth are we going to pay back all this government debt?

We'll be releasing a new episode every week, asking tough questions and digging up some fresh thinking.

The Long View is a chance to step back from the rolling news and take a look at what this all means for Australia. Cos one way or another, our post-corona future is on its way.