What does it really take to become a mighty man or woman of God when you feel ordinary, behind, or even disqualified? We sit down with author and jail chaplain Jackie Wakefield to talk about The Making of Mighty Men and the surprising path God uses to form spiritual strength, courageous leadership, and real discipleship. 

Jackie traces the message back to David’s mighty men, the misfits who gathered to David in a cave and later became giant killers. We talk about why calling and timing are not the same thing, how waiting can build endurance, and how God’s peace becomes a guide when your mind is racing. Jackie also shares the personal markers that kept him moving forward, including the long road from an initial prompting in 2014 to finally completing the book years later. 

The conversation gets practical and raw through stories from prison and jail ministry, where transformation is tested under pressure. Jackie describes men and women coming out of addiction, rebuilding their lives through faith-based rehabilitation, and the ripple effect this kind of gospel-centered work can have on an entire community. We also dig into David’s repentance, spiritual authority, and why standing your ground matters when everyone else walks away. 

If you’re hungry for Christian purpose, biblical leadership, and a faith that actually holds up in real life, this one will challenge and encourage you. Subscribe for more conversations like this, share the episode with a friend who needs hope, and leave a review with the biggest idea you’re taking with you. Find Jackie's Book Here: https://amzn.to/4f94yRB

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Elsa Kurt: You may know her for her uncanny, viral Kamala Harris impressions & conservative comedy skits, but she’s also a lifelong Patriot & longtime Police Wife. She has channeled her fierce love and passion for God, family, country, and those who serve as the creator, Executive Producer & Host of the Elsa Kurt Show with Clay Novak. Her show discusses today’s topics & news from a middle class/blue collar family & conservative perspective. The vocal LEOW’s career began as a multi-genre author who has penned over 25 books, including twelve contemporary women’s novels. 

Clay Novak: Clay Novak was commissioned in 1995 as a Second Lieutenant of Infantry and served as an officer for twenty four years in Mechanized Infantry, Airborne Infantry, and Cavalry units .  He retired as a Lieutenant Colonel in 2019. Clay is a graduate of the U.S. Army Ranger School and is a Master Rated Parachutist, serving for more tha...