The CRCNA is navigating a pastoral shortage, smaller candidate pools, and congregations that have been through enough upheaval that calling a new pastor straight away isn't always the right first move. This episode introduces the STM — the Specialized Transitional Minister — through two men who have made it their life's work: Roger Sparks and Harv Roosma. They want you to know something upfront: having an STM doesn't mean your church is a problem church.
Roger came to the work through a painful door. After 34 years in Medicine Hat, Rock Valley, and Laverne, he'd watched churches go through messy separations as a synodical deputy — and gone through one himself. Harv arrived differently: a teacher turned pastor who spent 20 years on Vancouver Island before sensing that the churches he served had deeper needs he wasn't equipped to meet. Pastor-Church Relations pointed him toward STM in 2018. He's been doing it ever since.
The structure is practical — a year-long commitment, first six months learning the church, second six months preparing the way for the next pastor. A priority list of 14-15 items gets narrowed to three or four. The training through the Interim Ministry Network is serious: church DNA, change dynamics, appreciative inquiry, moving a congregation from scarcity thinking to abundance thinking. But the phrase that captures the spirit of the whole thing is Harv's: we go in pre-fired. Your time is limited anyway. There's no fear. The job is to uncover what needs to be uncovered and love people well on the way out.
- 0:00 — Intro
- 1:08 — Roger Sparks: 34 years in Medicine Hat, Rock Valley, and Laverne
- 3:00 — What drew Roger to STM: synodical deputy work and a painful church split
- 5:19 — Harv Roosma: teacher to pastor, Vancouver Island to the Midwest
- 7:41 — What led Harv to STM: sensing needs he didn't have tools to address
- 8:02 — Jason: STMs aren't just for "problem churches"
- 9:10 — The pastoral shortage and STM demand in the CRC
- 12:08 — What a one-year STM commitment looks like
- 13:22 — The 6-month model: learning the church, then preparing for the next pastor
- 15:10 — The priority list: narrowing 14-15 items to 3-4 per church
- 16:54 — When a church closes: walking a congregation through its death
- 17:25 — STM training: the Interim Ministry Network
- 19:09 — Tools: appreciative inquiry, asset mapping, scarcity to abundance thinking
- 19:59 — The skills of the STM: avoiding triangulation, practicing differentiation
- 21:37 — Annual conference and peer Zoom groups
- 23:50 — The license to ask hard questions: what the STM invitation actually means
- 25:44 — "We go in pre-fired"
- 26:42 — Conversations that don't stay at surface level
- 27:05 — The bittersweet: friendships formed and goodbyes
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Intro music by Matt Krotzer