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Episode 170 – Trump chokes

In an unavoidably morbid and uniquely American turn of events, Andy and Roger process the death of Donald Trump—reportedly from choking on a Big Mac aboard Air Force One—and its implications for U.S. and global politics. While most media is still in stunned reaction mode, the duo skip the spectacle and explore what this means for MAGA, the Republican Party, and America’s political psyche.

JD Vance is now president (pending swearing in), and the discussion probes whether the MAGA movement survives without its cult leader, or if it dissipates into factions. Can Vance maintain the energy, or is this the beginning of a Republican identity crisis?

Andy and Roger also explore the Democrats’ next moves in a post-Trump world, whether the media can survive without their orange cash cow, and what global allies (and enemies) make of the latest American chaos. Plus: is it actually possible that McDonald’s has killed a U.S. president?

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Episode 169 – Nanny state

Roger returns from a chaotic family trip to Malaysia with war stories from airport border security, forgotten backpacks, and a renewed appreciation for Australian food safety standards. Andy and Roger reflect on the nanny state versus the wild chaos of Southeast Asia—where you might find horse meat next to the Fruit Loops.

The conversation spirals into parenting styles, travel hazards, and whether Australian children are overprotected. They debate the merits of haggling at night markets, the ethics of domestic helpers in countries like Singapore and Hong Kong, and whether Australia should embrace a “maid economy” of its own. There's a touch of philosophy, some light intergenerational resentment, and a surprising amount of time spent on seatbelt regulations.

They also touch on generational roles, multi-generational households, and the underexplored potential of grandparents as a solution to the childcare crisis. A meandering and provocative episode that may or may not be sponsored by Bluey.

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Episode 168 – Make friends

In this episode, Andy and Roger wrestle with the timeless advice of Dale Carnegie’s How to Win Friends and Influence People, asking the important question: does any of this still work in 2026?

Roger recounts a conversation with a new migrant seeking advice on making friends in Australia, prompting a deep (and often reluctant) dive into Carnegie’s greatest hits. Andy questions whether trying to be liked is inherently inauthentic, while Roger attempts to rehabilitate the usefulness of smiling, remembering names, and basic human warmth.

They also touch on workplace culture, social awkwardness, Friday drinks, and the delicate art of not being a jerk. Along the way, they explore masculinity, authenticity, and the tension between self-improvement and selling out. Andy reflects on the joy of disassembling Lego, while Roger admits to hoarding four bins’ worth of Christmas rubbish. No one comes out looking good.

Also covered: packing fatigue, moving-house misery, and why everything ends up in a box labelled “misc.”

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Episode 167 – Goodbye 2025

Another year older, another unwanted barbecue. In this special New Year’s wrap-up, Andy and Roger reflect on the curious psychology of Facebook Marketplace, from bookcase bartering and sick-son sob stories to ash-spewing barbecue disasters. What begins as a suburban tale of fridges and passive-aggressive pickup requests morphs into something deeper: the strange economics of zero-dollar transactions and the true meaning of "deadshit energy."

In the second half, the hosts do what they do best: attempt a 12-month world recap in under 12 minutes. They revisit Donald Trump’s shock re-election and its ripple effects, including strikes on Iran and a MAGA movement slowly eating itself from within. From antisemitism in Western Sydney hospitals to Pope Francis’ death and Albanese’s oddly smooth re-election, the year was as chaotic as it was forgettable.

Charlie Kirk’s assassination, the Bondi Hanukkah massacre, the collapse of consensus—2025 had no shortage of headlines. Yet between a Brisbane relocation and a nostalgia-fuelled Oasis gig, there were also glimmers of light.

A reminder, perhaps, that even in dark times, you can still fit a full-sized fridge in a RAV4.

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Episode 166 – Antisemitism

This week, Andy and Roger kick off the episode with a Christmas debrief and a rant about Sydney’s failed curbside waste collection—complete with an altercation involving a taxi driver, a mosque, and a van full of rubbish. Naturally, it gets political from there.

The core of the episode is a deep (and at times circular) dive into antisemitism, prompted by physicist David Deutsch’s theory known as “The Pattern.” Andy and Roger dissect the theory’s claims that antisemitism is an inherent, cyclical force embedded in all societies. Andy is unconvinced. Roger has thoughts. They explore whether antisemitism is unique compared to other forms of racism, how religion and cultural identity influence perceptions of power, and why conspiracy theories so often land on Jewish communities.

The discussion navigates the difference between prejudice and scapegoating, the legacy of historical memes, and why "similar but different" groups provoke discomfort. They question whether theories like Deutsch’s help or hinder our understanding, and end with an appropriately awkward moment about how many times they’ve said “Jews” on air.

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Episode 165 – Bondi

A sombre one this week, as Andy and Roger respond to the Bondi Beach terrorist attack—an act of anti-Semitic violence that left 15 dead and many injured. With hesitation but resolve, they unpack the political and cultural fallout: the risk of ideological vacuums, the failure of leadership, and the avoidance of hard conversations around religious extremism.

The episode examines Prime Minister Anthony Albanese’s muted response, critiques the political distraction around gun laws, and reflects on the community’s rising fear, especially within Australia's Jewish population. The hosts consider how social tensions, foreign conflicts, and domestic policy paralysis converge to create dangerous outcomes—and how the failure to address extremism honestly allows space for fringe voices to rise.

Amidst it all, they pay tribute to Ahmed Al Ahmed—the unarmed Muslim man who tackled the shooter—highlighting the human capacity for bravery in the face of horror. A heavy discussion, but an important one.

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Episode 164 – We’re fried

If you’ve ever been so exhausted you considered sleeping through Christmas, this one’s for you. Andy and Roger limp toward the end of the year reflecting on burnout, endless life admin, and the fantasy of doing absolutely nothing.

The pair swap war stories of seasonal stress, from Roger’s sleep-deprived chaos with four kids to Andy’s absurd four-house relocation marathon. They tackle the growing impossibility of downtime in a world designed for dual incomes and zero margin. The discussion turns to modern relationships and emotional labour—why men often disengage, how domestic logistics become defaulted to women, and the mental load that silently shapes our lives.

Also on the docket: group chats as purgatory, unread WhatsApp messages, the decline of festive joy, and why no one’s unboxed their toys anymore. They close with a rare resolution: less hustle, more pizza.

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Episode 163 – Learn to care

The Christmas lights are up, the elves are getting freaky, and Andy and Roger are back—armed with Spotify Wrapped and existential dread. Kicking off with a discussion of Santa, chocolate poo, and Barbie pole dancers, this episode spirals into one man’s musical identity crisis and another’s late-night bromance with Joe Rogan.

But beneath the absurdity lies something darker. Roger confesses to a midnight panic about AI, humanoid robots, and the death of the corporate job. Andy tries to reassure him with baristas, PhDs, and a surprising amount of Marxist optimism. They debate whether robots will displace both lawyers and latte makers, if owning property is the last refuge of the middle class, and whether career advice is now pointless.

It's a Christmas special filled with techno-anxiety, intergenerational angst, and just a splash of Taylor Swift.

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Episode 162 – Burkas of Tokyo

Fresh from a stint in Tokyo, Roger returns to the pod—culturally cleansed and slightly jet-lagged—to join Andy in unpacking the latest stunt from perennial provocateur Pauline Hanson. From grilling Wagyu on a sandwich press to donning a burka in the Senate, Hanson’s antics lead to a candid discussion about political theatre, respect for religion, and whether the Parliament needs a quiet carriage.

Roger shares tales from Japan, where warmed toilet seats and robot bidets prove revelatory, and where the culinary challenges include milkfish sperm and mystery liver mousse. The hosts contrast Japan’s order and civility with the chaos of Sydney’s transport system and Australia’s border officials—landing somewhere between admiration and despair.

Also on the menu: bogan icons in politics, Jackie Lambie’s rough charm, and why you’re more likely to find dignity in a Tokyo train than a Sydney airport queue.

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Episode 161 - Off limits

Andy and Roger return this week with what can only be described as a descent into the gutter—and a surprisingly philosophical one at that.

What begins with a meme-fuelled riff on the Epstein email leaks spirals rapidly into a gloriously inappropriate interrogation of sexuality, dominance, and prison politics (you’ve been warned). Along the way, they debate whether gay men give better blowjobs, the ethics of office relationships if you’re secretly a furry, and how Mike Tyson fits into all of this.

But it’s not all oral and outrage. The conversation eventually pivots (with some effort) toward a thoughtful discussion on whether someone’s private life should impact their professional one, the blurry lines of modern cancel culture, and whether society’s current political polarisation is just the prelude to something worse. Nazis, furries, MAGA cults, and the Holocaust Museum—somehow, it all makes it into this one.

A masterclass in how to start in the sewer and end up in political theory.

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