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  • #151 - Stupid rules

    🎧 NEW PODCAST EPISODE

    Episode 151 – Stupid rules

    Is it a rule if no one told you? Andy and Roger tackle the peculiar world of unwritten social conventions—those awkward, often absurd codes of conduct we all follow but no one really explains. From urinal etiquette to splitting the bill, from holding the door to who gets the TV remote, it's a buffet of modern manners, passive-aggressive rituals, and quiet judgment.

    The episode opens with an attempted Father’s Day sleep-in gone wrong, followed by a deeply philosophical—and mildly traumatic—exploration of public toilet hygiene. The conversation ranges across cultural expectations, generational divides, and whether being generous is a genuine trait or just an elaborate power play.

    Along the way, Andy and Roger take shots at "bless you" etiquette, dissect door-holding hierarchies, and debate who controls the restaurant bill and the living room remote. There's even a brief cameo by a dwarf at a football game urinal (you’ll just have to listen).

    If you've ever pretended to offer the last slice, fake-laughed at a boss’s joke, or said “I'm good” when you were anything but, this episode's for you.

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    #UnwrittenRules #SocialEtiquette #AndyAndRoger #ModernManners #PodcastDiscussion #CulturalNorms #OfficeCulture #DatingEtiquette #UrinalSpacing #LastSlicePolitics #BillSplittingDrama #AustralianHumour #SocialExpectations #PassiveAggression #LiftEtiquette #ModernLifeRules #BathroomRules

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    1 hr 1 min
  • #150 - Aussie values

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    Episode 150 – Aussie values

    Roger is sick again (thanks, toddlers), but Andy’s immune system is smugly intact. After a brief detour through parenthood and dodgy Chinese street food, the duo dives headfirst into a timely and thorny discussion: the recent anti-immigration rallies across Australia.

    They dissect the unsettling presence of neo-Nazis, the public backlash, and the uncomfortable intersections between protest movements and extremist ideologies. From pro-Palestinian demonstrations to Pauline Hanson’s unlikely renaissance, Andy and Roger explore whether we're headed for a nationalism revival—or just rehashing old divisions with updated signage.

    Other topics include cultural cohesion, immigration policy, urban infrastructure, housing stress, and why Brisbane’s Woolies closes too early. Plus: What does it really mean when there are "no white kids at school pick-up"? Can you destroy an ideology? And what happens when you want your suburb to feel just a little more like a zoo enclosure?

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    #ImmigrationDebate #NeoNazisAustralia #AustraliaProtests #CulturalCohesion #PaulineHanson #ProPalestineProtests #SocialDivision #AustraliaPolitics #AndyAndRoger #PodcastDiscussion #NationalismResurgence #Multiculturalism #HousingCrisis #WhiteFlight #SydneyVsBrisbane #AustralianIdentity #AntiImmigrationMarch #ProtestPolitics #MiddlePodcast


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    49 min
  • #149 - Taylor and Tyler

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    Episode 149 – Taylor and Tyler

    It was bound to happen. Two 40-year-old men discuss Taylor Swift's engagement and the surrounding cultural fallout—from heteronormative nostalgia to conspiracy theories about psyops and Super Bowl brand strategy. They discuss the backlash among younger fans, the cheerleader–quarterback trope, and the strangely polarising nature of Swift’s mass appeal.

    The episode then detours into a Brisbane boys’ trip featuring meat, souvenir t-shirts, and an impromptu casino lesson in regret. Roger reflects on maturing friendships, while Andy admits to having multiple showers a day. They close with reflections on parenting and live music culture, sparked by Andy's chaperoning stint at a Tyler the Creator concert filled with 13-year-olds, mosh pits, and explicit lyrics.

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    #TaylorSwift #TravisKelce #Swifties #PopCulture #CheerleaderQuarterback #SuperBowlPsyop #AndyAndRoger #ParentingToday #TylerTheCreator #ConcertChaperone #BoysTrip #BrisbaneLife #ModernMasculinity #MoshPitEnergy #CasinoRegrets #CulturalCommentary

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    58 min
  • #148 - Brisvegas

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    Episode 148 – Brisvegas

    This week, Andy and Roger ditch the studio for a boys' trip to Brisvegas, complete with a zesty blue Mustang convertible, thinning hairlines, and questionable headwear decisions. Things go sideways quickly when they encounter a real-life Karen berating Thai staff over a lack of fried rice at an all-you-can-eat buffet—and naturally, Andy has thoughts.

    The duo then pivot to some Bogan parenting anthropology at the local food court before delving into the headline act: the bizarre Trump–Putin summit in Alaska. From red carpet optics to stealth bombers and geopolitical theatre, Andy and Roger explore what (if anything) was achieved, and why Trump’s flair for production may be more dangerous than effective.

    South Park’s brutal new takedown of Trump and JD Vance also gets a viewing—complete with commentary on AI-generated grotesqueries, tiny penises, and baby oil. Rounding out the show: the Albanese government's support for Palestinian statehood and why Australia’s Productivity Summit ended with more posturing than policy.

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    #KarenInTheWild #TrumpPutin #SouthParkTrump #JDVance #PalestinianStatehood #Albanese #AustralianPolitics #ProductivitySummit #KenAndBarbieCar #BuffetBehaviour #Geopolitics #PoliticalOptics #MiddleEastPolicy #AndyAndRoger #PodcastHumour #Satire #BrisbaneTrip #Zelensky #AIinGovernment #CulturalCommentary #AustralianPodcast


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    51 min
  • #147 - Masculinity

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    Episode 147 – Masculinity

    In this episode, Andy and Roger wrestle with the increasingly loaded topic of masculinity—by way of a truly abysmal SBS panel show. What begins as a gripe about ChatGPT hallucinations quickly detours into Australia’s recognition of Palestine, the political symbolism of foreign policy, and whether Hamas sends thank-you hampers.

    The heart of the episode is a takedown of The Feed’s “Men Debate Masculinity”, a chaotic attempt at televised discourse featuring six blokes flapping about discussing body counts, domestic violence, and purity culture. Andy brands it “The Room” of conversations”, a reference to the infamous worst movie of all time; Roger wonders whether this dysfunctional mess is actually a faithful reflection of how men interact online.

    From gym bros to schoolyard sexism, to garbage duty, the hosts dissect the social expectations surrounding gender—and question how much of masculinity is performance, status, or just genetic dice rolls.

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    #MasculinityCrisis #TheFeedSBS #ModernManhood #GenderRoles #ToxicMasculinity #PodcastDiscussion #AndyAndRoger #JordanPeterson #SBSDebate #BodyCountDebate #Manosphere #AustralianPolitics #MasculinityDebate #CulturalCommentary #MasculinityInCrisis #ModernMasculinity #WhatIsAMan #MasculinityVsIdentity

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    44 min
  • #146 - Abundance

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    Episode 146 – Abundance

    In this episode, Andy and Roger wade into the political and cultural crosscurrents sparked by the book Abundance by Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson. They start with a listener’s heartfelt concern about her daughter’s activism in pro-Palestinian marches—unpacking the mix of genuine compassion, complex coalitions, and the ever-present risk of being swept along by more extreme elements. The conversation explores the “enemy of my enemy” trap, the nature of information wars, and whether youthful causes inevitably mellow with age.

    From there, the focus shifts to Abundance—a supposed rallying cry for a new political direction that Andy and Roger suspect may be more “saccharine-coated” than revolutionary. They debate whether the book’s ideas amount to neoliberal economics with progressive branding, its reluctance to utter certain ideological buzzwords, and its potential to nudge the political left toward market-friendly thinking. Along the way, they tackle housing policy, the limits of government action, and whether the term “abundance” is inspiring or hopelessly vague. It’s a mix of scepticism and reluctant praise.

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    #Abundance #EzraKlein #DerekThompson #PoliticalDebate #AndyAndRoger #PalestineProtests #YouthActivism #InformationWar #BookDiscussion #HousingPolicy #Neoliberalism #ProgressivePolitics #MarketEconomics #PoliticalBranding #PodcastChat #AustralianPolitics #CulturalDebate #ProtestCulture #GovernmentPolicy #PublicDiscourse

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    49 min
  • #145 - Greyzone

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    Episode 145 – Greyzone

    Andy and Roger return with a sombre and sprawling discussion of the Israel-Gaza war, asking what moral accountability looks like in a situation with no easy answers. Andy begins by reflecting on the horror of starvation of people in Gaza, and expresses frustration over Israel’s continued military campaign. Roger highlights the hostages still held by Hamas and the intractability of a decades-long conflict.

    Together, they dissect the diminishing global support for Israel, the shifting tone of Western discourse, and the strategic and moral failings of all actors involved. The episode also dives into generational divides around support for Israel, and the likelihood that ongoing war will radicalise a new generation. Both hosts acknowledge the futility of most proposed solutions—ultimately landing on the idea that this may be one of the great unsolvable issues of our time.

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    21 min
  • #144 - Epstein who?

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    Episode 144 – Epstein who?

    Andy and Roger kick off with a chat about the joy of ageing bodies at concerts and a bizarre Coldplay scandal involving a jumbotron, the CEO, and the head of HR. There’s some gentle speculation about how to survive being caught mid-canoodle on live camera—and how Coldplay became the unexpected backdrop for one of the most publicised workplace affairs in recent memory.

    Then it’s a deep dive into Andy’s new job (and new city): Brisbane. From onboarding chaos to cultural shifts, they unpack the challenges of adjusting to new teams, workplace vibes, and...squat-based crowd participation at gigs. Is Brisbane slower-paced, more “blokey,” or just sneakily Singaporean?

    Finally, the duo dig into the ever-murky Jeffrey Epstein files, dissecting political cynicism on both sides, the MAGA movement’s conspiracy obsession, and the surprisingly bipartisan sleaze of the world’s elite. Can a man bounce a colleague on his knee without becoming a meme? The Middle asks the hard questions.

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    #EpsteinFiles #ColdplayScandal #OfficeAffair #NewJobFeels #BrisbaneLife #AgingMillennials #TittyCam #AndyAndRoger #MAGAConspiracies #WorkplaceCulture #PodcastDiscussion #JeffreyEpstein #HRDrama #CorporateLife #PoliticalCynicism #TrumpEra #ConspiracyTheories #MenInTheWorkplace #MiddlePodcast #CultureAndComedy


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    48 min
  • #143 - Piracy

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    Episode 143 – Piracy

    Andy and Roger go full nostalgia this week, sailing back into the murky waters of digital piracy—from LimeWire and Napster to South-East Asian market stalls and dual-VCR bootlegs. The episode opens with Roger’s traumatising trip to Luna Park and Andy’s vivid memories of his dad recording classical music from the local library, before the pair launch into a discussion about how pirating culture shaped their youth.

    They explore the evolution of music and movie consumption, from mixtapes and VHS dubs to torrents and streaming, reflecting on how piracy transformed not only access to content but the culture around it. There’s also a very candid look at the ethics of pirating, the blurred lines between rebellion and theft, and how shifting technologies—from MP3s to AI—continue to challenge old business models. And yes, porn gets a mention too.

    Whether it’s the death of the album, the economics of Taylor Swift’s re-recordings, or why Game of Thrones was the last true watercooler moment, Andy and Roger ask: was it wrong, or just inevitable?

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    #DigitalPiracy #Napster #LimeWire #Torrents #OldInternet #VHS #BootlegCulture #LunaPark #AndyAndRoger #MusicStreaming #CopyrightDebate #AIandArt #TaylorSwift #Spotify #MoviePiracy #AlbumCulture #TechNostalgia #StreamingWars #MediaConsumption #CivilDisobedience #DigitalRevolution

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    42 min
  • #142 - Forty years

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    Episode 142 – Forty years

    Roger’s recovering from a throat infection, Andy’s just turned 40, and both are contemplating how it all went so fast. In this episode, Andy and Roger embark on an ambitious year-by-year cultural tour through the major pop culture and historical events of their lifetimes—starting with 1985’s Back to the Future and ending in 2025 with AI and global disillusionment.

    Expect reflections on:

    Chernobyl, Cobain, and Obama

    Die Hard, The Matrix, and Mean Girls

    The iPhone, Gangnam Style, and Google

    The fall of the Berlin Wall and the rise of Trump

    Whether Nirvana was actually any good

    Why Jurassic Park still slaps

    And how The Simpsons is the Shakespeare of their generation

    It's a nostalgic and occasionally absurd audit of growing up in the shadow of late capitalism, blockbuster movies, and dial-up internet—just two guys trying to remember what happened between floppy disks and ChatGPT.

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    #Turning40 #PopCultureNostalgia #AndyAndRoger #BackToTheFuture #MillennialLife #NirvanaDebate #SimpsonsLegacy #JurassicPark #TrumpEra #MatrixReloaded #PodcastThrowback #iPhoneRevolution #GenXMillennials #CulturalRetrospective #DigitalAge #LifeInThe80s #RememberThe90s #2000sCulture #AI2025 #PodcastDiscussion

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    1 hr 12 min

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In a world where only the extreme get their voice heard... How do we know where the middle is?