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Episode 131 – Gaza

This episode starts, as all thoughtful geopolitical episodes should, with a frank discussion about celibacy, incels, and collector’s edition virgins. After a full 15 minutes of deeply inappropriate speculation, Andy and Roger pivot—perhaps too smoothly—into a serious, structured debate about the Israel–Gaza conflict.

They run a series of increasingly pointed statements at each other, looking for common ground on a topic often defined by its polarisation. Do Palestinians have a right of return? Can Israel defend itself without creating more terrorists? Is Hamas an idea more than an organisation? And has Netanyahu prolonged the war for his own political gain?

Through their usual blend of logic puzzles, dry detours, and actual attempts at diplomacy, they explore moral ambiguity, strategic miscalculations, and what it really means to “hold the middle” in a time of war. The episode doesn’t offer easy answers—but at least no one got shushed this time.

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Episode 129 – Experts

In this episode, Andy and Roger wade into the bubbling swamp of podcast ethics and ask: what does it really mean to platform someone? Prompted by a spicy Joe Rogan episode featuring Douglas Murray and Dave Smith, they debate whether podcast hosts have a moral obligation to vet their guests—or at least to push back when nonsense is spouted at scale.

They reflect on Rogan’s evolution from a curious left-leaning gym bro to a darling of the alt-media scene, dissecting his appeal, contradictions, and cultural influence. Douglas Murray’s confrontation with Rogan is used as a springboard to explore how we talk about (and trust) expertise in an age where everyone has a platform, and misinformation spreads faster than seed oils in an influencer’s pantry.

The conversation ranges from conspiracies and contrarians to climate science, the war in Ukraine, and whether you really can drink red wine for your health. They also debate if Lex Friedman should interview Vladimir Putin, and whether some podcasts unwittingly serve as propaganda delivery systems.

It’s a sharp look at the tension between open discourse and responsible curation—plus, a reminder that even self-described comedians might have more power than they realise.

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Episode 128 – Tariffs and time travel

In this episode, Andy and Roger ponder the science of the flux capacitor and the tantalising idea of travelling through time—only to find themselves knee-deep in Trump tariffs, MAGA loyalists, and the geopolitical fallout of a nuclear trade war. What begins as a pop-culture nod to Back to the Future becomes a sprawling conversation about cultish political devotion, strategic trolling, and the existential crisis of buying cheap Nikes from morally questionable supply chains.

Andy and Roger discuss Trump’s latest economic chaos, prompting a spirited debate about whether his base is misled, misunderstood, or simply bored and destructive. From the psychological makeup of Peter Thiel types to the petty grievances of Fox News junkies, Andy and Roger lay out the intellectual poverty of modern MAGAism. Roger plays devil’s advocate while Andy unleashes a steady stream of exasperated analogies—Scientologists, cults, and the inevitable popcorn-worthy downfall of the base.

Things then take a turn into proper time travel territory: what moment in history would you change? Should we bring back Churchill to slap Trump across the face? Or Jesus to sort out the PR crisis he left behind?

Finally, they take a speculative leap into the year 2055, considering the trajectory of AI, the banality of future tech, and whether having ChatGPT in 1995 would’ve been enough to take over the world (spoiler: no). It’s philosophical, petty, political, and properly nerdy.

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Episode 127 – Adolescence

Andy and Roger tackle the Netflix series Adolescence, dissecting the critical response and its portrayal of masculinity, youth radicalisation, and social influence. The discussion kicks off with Roger recounting a listener’s question about tariffs and Trump’s misleading rhetoric, before pivoting to Andy’s frustration over the show’s reception.

They discuss whether the series' depiction of toxic masculinity and social alienation accurately reflects broader societal trends or merely indulges in moral panic. Roger plays devil’s advocate, suggesting generational shifts in how masculinity is perceived and shaped, while Andy critiques the series for its exaggerated depiction of schools, parenting, and social decay.

From Andrew Tate’s divisive messaging to the perceived influence of the manosphere, Andy and Roger challenge the notion that harmful ideologies can completely corrupt ‘normal’ boys. They also touch on the complexities of online dating, social isolation, and how narratives like Adolescence contribute to anxiety about raising boys in the modern world.

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Episode 126 – Australia decides

In this episode, Andy and Roger dive into the messy and occasionally absurd world of Australian politics as the country heads into another federal election. They discuss the upcoming election, party leaders Anthony Albanese and Peter Dutton and the differences between Australia’s political parties.

The conversation ranges from the potential political appeal of Dutton’s stern, no-nonsense image to Malcolm Turnbull’s biting critique of his suitability as Prime Minister. They also grapple with questions of engagement, voter apathy, and the peculiarities of Australia’s compulsory voting system.

Is Dutton the strong hand Australia needs, or is the Coalition just floundering for relevance? And has Albanese’s government achieved anything worth remembering over the past three years? Tune in to find out.

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Episode 125 – Ugly people

Andy and Roger are back with another uplifting dive into humanity’s darker corners. This week’s episode opens with a discussion about attractiveness and social advantage—sparked by a real-world conversation about discrimination against “ugly” people. From beauty privilege and dating dynamics to workplace bias and fatphobia, the pair examine the unspoken hierarchies that shape daily life, and ask whether it’s time to add “ugly” to the diversity charter.

They then respond to a listener’s critique of their earlier take on DOGE (the Department of Government Efficiency), government spending, and Elon Musk’s role in it all. The conversation covers everything from bureaucratic inertia and public sector risk management to the myth of private sector superiority, asking whether Musk is a visionary or simply smashing things with a chainsaw. It’s an hour of philosophical drift with a few toilet seat references thrown in for good measure.

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Episode 124 – Hedonist

Andy and Roger unpack the dopamine-fuelled cycle of consumerism, exploring why we chase material satisfaction despite knowing it never lasts. From Roger’s new high-end microphone to Andy’s fleeting obsession with kitchen gadgets, they discuss how modern shopping habits, brand prestige, and the “prosumer” mindset shape our spending.

They also debate whether luxury Chinese cars will ever be taken seriously in the West, the psychology behind collecting, and why some products (like Swiss watches) hold their value while others (like Roger’s infamous glass boots) age into regret. Plus, they reveal their worst impulse buys—including a Flying V guitar, a vinyl player gathering dust, and a failed attempt at creating the ultimate poker den.

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Episode 123 – I was wrong

In this episode, Andy and Roger take a deep dive into the concept of changing one's mind—whether it's about politics, parenting, or personal philosophy. They explore past beliefs they’ve abandoned, current debates they’re wrestling with, and the future positions they could see themselves shifting on.

Roger opens up about moving away from religion and challenging his long-held suspicion of overly positive people. Andy reflects on evolving views about privilege and parenting, realising that being "soft" on kids might not always be in their best interests. The duo also debate the difficulty of admitting you were wrong—especially in the hyper-polarised political landscape.

From Trump to trust in institutions, they dissect how ideology, experience, and ego shape the way people cling to or revise their beliefs. Plus, a discussion on whether we should all be giving out more unsolicited compliments (without sounding like a corporate sales rep).

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Episode 122 – Emergency Broadcast: Trump V Zelenskyy

In this special emergency episode, Andy and Roger react to the extraordinary press conference between Donald Trump and Volodymyr Zelensky, which rapidly collapsed into a chaotic shouting match. With Ukraine’s future and European security hanging in the balance, they discuss the potential consequences of this diplomatic disaster.

The conversation examines how the deteriorating transatlantic alliance is fuelling anxieties across Europe, what this means for ongoing support for Ukraine, and whether Ukraine can withstand the fractures exposed by this clash. With global tensions rising and political missteps compounding, Andy and Roger break down the immediate and long-term fallout from one of the most surreal moments in modern international diplomacy.

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