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  • #160 - Christian nationalism

    🎧 NEW PODCAST EPISODE

    Episode 160 – Christian nationalism

    Andy and Roger take a theological detour in this week’s episode, tackling the unlikely marriage of atheism and Christian nationalism—because nothing says "God is dead" like two agnostics discussing the Holy Spirit on a podcast.

    It begins with a recap of their visit to St Mary’s Cathedral, which somehow segues into a spirited review of the sights, smells, and substances at an Oasis concert. The pair lament the rise of candy-scented vapes and euphoric Irish blokes with questionable nasal hygiene before pivoting sharply to Christian nationalism—its definition, its implications, and whether one can support the structure without the superstition.

    The discussion weaves through Jordan Peterson, monarchy mythologies, America’s spiritual politics, and the idea that many modern secular societies are quietly living off the dregs of Christian moral frameworks. Is belief a prerequisite for support? Can you admire the architecture without joining the choir? And are Mormons having sex with each other on mission? (Probably.) As always, Andy and Roger manage to turn existential questions into slightly uncomfortable laughs—and somehow make it work.

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    #ChristianNationalism #Atheism #AndyAndRoger #PodcastDiscussion #FaithAndPolitics #ModernSpirituality #JordanPeterson #CulturalDecline #ReligionDebate #OasisConcert #MonarchyMyth #CatholicHumour #VapeCulture #SpiritualCrisis #WesternValues #BeliefSystems #CulturalCommentary #ChurchAndState #SecularSociety #AustralianPodcast


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    40 min
  • #159 - Oasis

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    Episode 159 – Oasis

    Andy and Roger gear up (and grumble) ahead of the much-hyped Oasis reunion tour, navigating the emotional spectrum from teenage giddiness to middle-aged back pain. With general admission tickets in sweaty hands, they debate the wisdom of attending a 31-degree Sydney stadium gig in a thunderstorm.

    This episode meanders through Oasis nostalgia, Gen X vs millennial music tastes, public transport trauma, and the curious cultural cachet of pop-up merch stores. Roger muses on the lost art of rock stardom, Andy notes the k-pop infiltration at Westfield, and both reflect on what the crowd might reveal about race, class, and identity politics in 2025.

    Also: MAGA hats in Apple stores, Trump 2028 sightings, and the economics of songwriting royalties. Plus, a quickfire round on best Oasis tracks and live moments. Stand by me, indeed.

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    #OasisReunion #TaylorSwiftErasTour #NostalgiaCulture #AndyAndRoger #BritPop #MoshPitRegrets #GeneralAdmission #GallagherBrothers #OasisSydney #OasisLive #PopCultureCommentary #MillennialVsGenX #KpopTakeover #Trump2028 #PublicTransportRant #90sMusicRevival #OasisFans #StandByMe #ChampagneSupernova #Wonderwall

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    25 min
  • #159 - Oasis

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    Episode 159 – Oasis

    Andy and Roger gear up (and grumble) ahead of the much-hyped Oasis reunion tour, navigating the emotional spectrum from teenage giddiness to middle-aged back pain. With general admission tickets in sweaty hands, they debate the wisdom of attending a 31-degree Sydney stadium gig in a thunderstorm.

    This episode meanders through Oasis nostalgia, Gen X vs millennial music tastes, public transport trauma, and the curious cultural cachet of pop-up merch stores. Roger muses on the lost art of rock stardom, Andy notes the k-pop infiltration at Westfield, and both reflect on what the crowd might reveal about race, class, and identity politics in 2025.

    Also: MAGA hats in Apple stores, Trump 2028 sightings, and the economics of songwriting royalties. Plus, a quickfire round on best Oasis tracks and live moments. Stand by me, indeed.

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    #OasisReunion #TaylorSwiftErasTour #NostalgiaCulture #AndyAndRoger #BritPop #MoshPitRegrets #GeneralAdmission #GallagherBrothers #OasisSydney #OasisLive #PopCultureCommentary #MillennialVsGenX #KpopTakeover #Trump2028 #PublicTransportRant #90sMusicRevival #OasisFans #StandByMe #ChampagneSupernova #Wonderwall

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    28 min
  • #158 - Trans

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    Episode 158 – Trans

    In a long-overdue foray into the culture wars, Andy and Roger finally tackle the topic of trans identity in society—with the subtlety of a brick through a window. From awkward change-room encounters to the philosophical minefield of gender roles, they wade through the semantics of sex versus gender, armed with nothing but a few boomer-inspired prompts and questionable analogies involving fishnets and frocks.

    The conversation charts the shifting meanings of “trans,” the biological basis of sex, the evolving nature of gender, and why the toilet sign has become a lightning rod for modern politics. Along the way, they debate gender identity versus dysphoria, the legitimacy of gender-based versus sex-based spaces, and why some activists might be pushing a little too hard on the Overton window.

    Andy plays devil’s advocate. Roger brings up chromosomes. Everyone agrees the guillotine may be a bit much.

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    #TransRights #GenderIdentity #WhatIsAWoman #SexVsGender #CultureWars #AndyAndRoger #TransIssues #PodcastDebate #SocialChange #GenderPolitics #TransActivism #ProgressivePolitics #FreedomOfSpeech #TransInclusion #PoliticalCorrectness #IdentityPolitics #BoomerQuestions #GenderDysphoria #ModernMasculinity


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    1 hr 14 min
  • #157 - Screw the kids

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    Episode 157 - Screw the kids

    Andy and Roger confront the great Australian pastime: feeling conflicted about housing. Kicking off with Roger’s feverish tales of toddler sleep regression, the episode spirals into a confessional therapy session on modern parenting—comparing boomer belt threats to contemporary bedtime negotiations. From four-kid fatigue to the economics of making your own bed, they reflect on how generational shifts have redefined both authority and exhaustion.

    Things then shift gears to a particularly spicy listener question—should homeowners feel guilty about rising property prices and opposing apartment blocks in their 'leafy suburbs'? The duo unpacks NIMBYism, intergenerational wealth transfer, the "vibe" of suburbs, and why Australians struggle to separate homes from status. There’s a spirited debate on boomer economics, Gen Z victimhood, tiny homes, granny flats, and even the philosophical implications of R.V. life.

    No solutions, just vibes—and maybe a gentle reminder that empathy and Deliveroo porches are what really matter.

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    #HousingCrisis #NIMBY #AustralianHousing #BoomersVsMillennials #ParentingFatigue #GenZStruggles #LeafySuburbs #RealEstateAustralia #TinyHomes #GrannyFlats #WealthInequality #AndyAndRoger #PodcastDiscussion #ModernParenting #PropertyPrices #SocialCommentary


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    50 min
  • #156 - Fake news

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    Episode 156 - Fake news

    This week, Andy and Roger begin by talking about Barry Weiss and her surprise appointment as editor-in-chief at CBS News, before spiralling into a discussion about audience capture, ideological drift, and whether anyone—including themselves—can truly claim to be immune from cult-like thinking. Are we the sane ones, or just too deep to notice?

    From there, it’s a sweeping conversation through the evolving role of religion in public life, and the legitimacy of different media ecosystems (hello, Sky News After Dark). Andy floats the uncomfortable idea that the “new atheists” may have been the virus that broke Western civilisation. Roger plays devil’s advocate—possibly literally.

    They touch on climate, immigration, the myth of multicultural harmony, and whether Australia’s stability is luck or design. As always, it's a crossfire of hypotheticals, minor existential crises, and unexpected agreement.

    Somewhere in the middle, John Howard makes a cameo.

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    #BarryWeiss #FreePress #CancelCulture #AudienceCapture #ModernMedia #PoliticalTribes #SkyNewsAfterDark #AustralianPolitics #ImmigrationDebate #ClimatePolicy #CultureWars #TrumpCircle #MiddlePodcast #AndyAndRoger #ModernDemocracy #EchoChambers #AreWeTheCult #PodcastDiscussion #CBSNews #CriticalThinking

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    42 min
  • #155 - Peace

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    Episode 155 – Peace

    Andy and Roger open this episode with a surprisingly heartfelt dive into the world of Uber Eats, Five Guys, and the dark side of soggy chips. What begins as a minor rant about delivery delays soon turns into an extended therapy session on the state of modern convenience, consumer behaviour, and parenting in the age of on-demand food. There’s even a side hustle involving 3D printing and a schoolboy Uber Eats empire.

    The tone shifts dramatically in the second half, as the hosts tackle the ceasefire agreement in Gaza and the broader peace deal between Israel and Hamas. Roger marks the moment with a glass of Johnny Walker Blue, reflecting on years of devastation and the rare glimmer of hope. Andy offers a more reserved view, comparing the conflict’s aftermath to a war-fatigued world grappling with moral accountability and competing narratives.

    They round things out by questioning whether Donald Trump deserves a Nobel Peace Prize and get thoroughly sidetracked by AI-generated Facebook videos of Stephen Hawking doing extreme sports. It's that kind of episode.

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    #MiddleEastPeace #GazaCeasefire #IsraelHamas #UberEatsFails #FiveGuys #ParentingIn2025 #DonaldTrump #NobelPeacePrize #FoodDeliveryWoes #ModernConvenience #AIContent #AndyAndRoger #PodcastDiscussion #MiddlePodcast #CulturalCommentary #GlobalPolitics #SoggyChips

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    54 min
  • #154 - Celebrity

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    Episode 154 – Celebrity

    This week, Andy and Roger tackle the hard-hitting questions: is it ever okay for men to sit down to wee, and what does your urinal splash zone say about you? As always, it starts in the gutter—literally—and then spirals into a spirited discussion about celebrity culture, the awkward etiquette of recognising public figures (including Lleyton Hewitt at Castle Towers), and whether you’re ever truly allowed to approach someone famous while they wait for bubble tea.

    From reflections on Slash, Snoop Dogg impersonators, and airport stalking, to debates about political celebrity and the pecking order of fame—from athletes and models to podcasters and influencers—this episode dissects the strange hierarchies of modern notoriety. The pair also revisit Australia’s Tall Poppy Syndrome and whether it's possible to admire someone without being a cringe-inducing fanboy.

    A deeply serious exploration of status, fame, and… toilets.

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    #AndyAndRoger #CelebrityCulture #FameEtiquette #SitDownWee #UrinalPolitics #CastleTowers #LeightonHewitt #Slash #TallPoppySyndrome #ModernFame #InfluencerCulture #SnoopDoggLookalike #PublicToiletEtiquette #CelebrityEncounters #PodcastDiscussion #AussieCulture #BubbleTeaAndFame #FanBehaviour #CelebritySpotting


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    56 min
  • #153 - The FCC won’t let me be

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    Episode 153 – The FCC won’t let me be

    What do you get when a late-night comedian, a resurrected Trump, and a suspiciously realistic autopen portrait of Joe Biden walk into the news cycle? A particularly bleak week in American politics, it seems.

    Andy and Roger reflect on the spiralling absurdity of recent events: Jimmy Kimmel’s temporary cancellation and triumphant return and the uncomfortable power vacuum at the heart of the Republican Party. Is this all a Reichstag moment—or have we finally jumped the shark?

    There’s also discussion of Trump’s increasingly authoritarian rhetoric, and a deep dive into the power of political satire (including a cameo from John Cleese’s prophetic 1987 monologue). Roger remains convinced the institutions will hold; Andy’s not so sure.

    A candid, wide-ranging episode questioning whether America’s political trajectory is sustainable, and whether the rest of us are just collateral damage in its attention economy.

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    #JimmyKimmel #CharlieKirk #TrumpEra #PoliticalSatire #SouthPark #FCC #FreeSpeech #CancelCulture #AmericanPolitics #Autopen #Authoritarianism #AndyAndRoger #PodcastDiscussion #LateNightComedy #TrumpAdministration #CultureWars #MediaFreedom


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    46 min
  • #152 - Charlie Kirk

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    Episode 152 – Charlie Kirk

    Andy and Roger plunge into the dark territory surrounding the assassination of American conservative activist Charlie Kirk.

    With a week’s distance from the event, they examine the cultural, political, and ideological impact of Kirk’s killing, dissecting both the online reaction and the real-world implications. Roger reflects on the shocking footage, while Andy highlights the chilling effect such violence has on public discourse.

    They dive into Kirk’s legacy—his role in Turning Point USA, his relationship with Donald Trump, and whether his provocations should be seen as divisive or hateful. The pair also explore the media’s response, contrasting the nuance of Ezra Klein with social media hot takes, and debating whether the broader left and right handled the aftermath responsibly.

    The episode also ventures into the uncomfortable terrain of political violence, cancel culture, and free speech. Andy and Roger challenge the audience to consider what trends are actually emerging—and whether the centre is still holding.

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    #CharlieKirk #PoliticalViolence #FreeSpeech #TurningPointUSA #CultureWar #AndyAndRoger #USPolitics #MediaReaction #CancelCulture #PublicDiscourse #EzraKlein #TrumpEra #Polarisation #PodcastDebate #SocialMediaBacklash #RightVsLeft #AssassinationDebate #ConservativePolitics #DebateCulture


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    1 hr 11 min

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