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When the house goes quiet, many successful couples discover a louder problem: they can run a company, but struggle to run their relationship.
In this episode, we sit down with Benslyne Avril, registered psychotherapist, mental health speaker, and University of Ottawa professor, to explore why high-performing empty nesters often begin to feel like roommates, and how a strategic, time-bound coaching model can help couples reconnect without getting lost in years of backstory.
Benslyne explains the critical differences between psychotherapy and coaching, and why some couples need the depth, safety, and trauma-informed pace of therapy, while others thrive with clear milestones and direct accountability. We walk through her 90-day relationship framework, starting with a relationship audit across emotional connection, family dynamics, intimacy, and individual interests, followed by 30/60/90-day goals designed to create measurable change.
Along the way, we unpack real-world frictions many couples face in midlife: shifting power dynamics when one partner leads professionally, identity loss when a stay-at-home parent loses their “team,” and what happens when two high achievers move forward without a shared north star.
We also explore modern curveballs that quietly intensify distance. AI-driven advice can flatten nuance and fuel certainty that doesn’t match a partner’s lived experience. Menopause can influence libido, sleep, and mood in ways that are often misunderstood. Attachment patterns still matter, and avoidant or anxious tendencies can derail even the best plan if actions don’t align with each person’s nervous system.
Benslyne shares how to spot early warning signs, “roommate energy,” stalled conversations, dates that feel like interviews, and practical ways to protect connection long before the kids move out.
If you’re weighing therapy versus coaching, this conversation helps you decide based on your goals, readiness, and the type of support that fits your current season.
Ready to design the next 15 to 20 years with intention instead of autopilot?
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