In this conversation, Gavin and Robert discuss the challenges and lessons they have learned in their lives as men. They touch on a variety of topics, including the importance of self-love, the impact of disconnecting from one's emotions, and the role of love and compassion in creating a better world.
The Importance of Self-Love
Gavin and Robert both emphasize the importance of self-love in their personal journeys. They both acknowledge that they used to blame the world for their problems, and it wasn't until they were in their 40s that they realized they needed to work on themselves in order to improve their lives. They mention that self-love is essential to being able to love others and see worthiness in them.
The Impact of Disconnecting from Emotions
Gavin and Robert discuss the negative impact of disconnecting from emotions, as men are often taught to suppress their feelings. They both agree that this disconnection creates a void of love and compassion, which leads to harm in the world. By incorporating feminine intelligence, which includes feeling, sensing, intuiting, and direct knowing, they believe men can become a force for good.
The Role of Love and Compassion
Gavin and Robert also discuss the role of love and compassion in creating a better world. They mention the ongoing wars in Ukraine, Palestine, and around the world, and how these conflicts stem from a lack of love and compassion. They believe that by incorporating love and compassion in their lives, they can be a force for good in the world.
Forgiveness and Making Amends
Gavin and Robert also talk about the importance of forgiveness and making amends for past mistakes. Gavin mentions that it was difficult for him to forgive himself for the harm he had caused in the past, but he knew it was an integral part of self-love. He made a list of people he had wronged and apologized to each of them, which he found cathartic and healing.
The Challenges of Co-Parenting
Gavin and Robert also discuss the challenges of co-parenting after a divorce. Gavin mentions that he didn't know how to be a good father when he was younger, as he was often away for work. After his divorce, he had to learn how to take care of his children and make time for them, which he found difficult at first but ultimately was a huge gift for their relationship.
Robert also mentions that his relationship with his ex-wife is positive, and they have a great co-parenting relationship. He also mentions that he has moved on to another relationship that is challenging but has a lot of freedom and connection.
In conclusion, Gavin and Robert both share their personal experiences and insights on the challenges and lessons they have learned as men. They touch on the importance of self-love, the impact of disconnecting from emotions, the role of love and compassion in creating a better world, the challenges of co-parenting, and the importance of forgiveness and making amends. They both agree that by working on themselves, they can be a force for good in the world.