This week on the Nat & Mat Podcast, we dive deep into the messy, fascinating world of AI-generated art — and why so many artists feel it’s missing something real. We explore the moral dilemmas, creative frustrations, and the big question everyone’s asking: Can AI actually make meaningful art, or just really convincing copies?
Along the way, we take you behind the scenes of recording vocals for our upcoming track “Shy”, sharing insights about the creative process, performance pressure, and what it means to make something honest in a world full of shortcuts.
If you’ve ever wondered where human creativity fits into the future — or you just want to hear what goes into tracking vocals for an indie record — this episode is for you.

This week on the Nat & Mat Podcast, Natalie Zannoni (Iris Belhaze) and Mat Creedon dive back into the studio to keep working on their song “Shy.”
What starts as a day of recording vocal harmonies quickly turns into a classic Nat and Mat mixed bag — a free-flowing chat about cold showers, working with kids, playing games, being vegetarian, diets, dealing with the outside world, and that familiar inner critic we all wrestle with — self-judgement.
It’s another unedited, open-ended journey through sound, humour, and honest reflection — the kind of conversation that reminds you why it’s okay to just be human.
🎧 Listen to the episode: 👉 https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-nat-mat-sessions–6760133
🎵 Listen to Iris Belhaze on Spotify: 👉 https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=5AhmFyfBSbKXtI1meT4n9Q
🎵 Listen to Mat Creedon on Spotify: 👉 https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=f9Q4MjPmRFutjBBXfM6jXw

This week on the Nat & Mat Podcast, Natalie Zannoni (Iris Belhaze) and Mat Creedon return to the studio to keep shaping their new song “Shy.”
Between takes, the conversation drifts into one of those late-night tangents that only seem to happen when the mic’s still hot — a mixed bag of reflections on social perception, identity, and the strange pressure to present the “perfect” version of ourselves to the world.
How do we prove to others who we really are? And can we ever be truly seen, knowing that no matter what we say or do, someone out there will still misinterpret it?
It’s another raw, unedited window into art, honesty, and human nature — where the music and the moment blur into one.
🎧 Listen to the episode: 👉 https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-nat-mat-sessions–6760133
🎵 Listen to Iris Belhaze on Spotify: 👉 https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=5AhmFyfBSbKXtI1meT4n9Q
🎵 Listen to Mat Creedon on Spotify: 👉 https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=f9Q4MjPmRFutjBBXfM6jXw

This week on the Nat & Mat Podcast, Natalie Zannoni (Iris Belhaze) and Mat Creedon dive deep into the creative and the cosmic while recording their new track “Shy.”
As the microphones roll, the conversation drifts beyond melody and lyrics — into a raw exploration of morality, duality, and what lies beyond the idea of good and evil. Can we exist in the grey? Can art be a bridge between darkness and light?
It’s an unedited, intimate session where philosophy meets sound, and music becomes a mirror for consciousness itself.
🎧 Listen to the episode: 👉 https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-nat-mat-sessions–6760133
🎵 Listen to Iris Belhaze on Spotify: 👉 https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=5AhmFyfBSbKXtI1meT4n9Q
🎵 Listen to Mat Creedon on Spotify: 👉 https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=f9Q4MjPmRFutjBBXfM6jXw
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This week on the Nat & Mat Podcast, Natalie Zannoni (Iris Belhaze) and Mat Creedon head back into the studio to record their latest track “Shy.”
Somewhere between takes, the conversation drifts — from lyrics and microphones to the delicate art of growing asparagus (and why it’s basically a metaphor for creativity, patience, and life itself). 🌱
It’s another unfiltered, real-time session filled with laughter, insight, and unexpected wisdom — where making music becomes a meditation on how we grow, create, and stay true to ourselves. 

🎵 Listen to Iris Belhaze on Spotify: 👉 https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=5AhmFyfBSbKXtI1meT4n9Q

🎵 Listen to Mat Creedon on Spotify: 👉 https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=f9Q4MjPmRFutjBBXfM6jXw

🎙️ Marianne Faithfull: The Existential Spiral In this unedited studio session, Natalie Zannoni (Iris Belhaze) and producer Mat Creedon finish recording “Marianne Faithfull” while spiralling into an existential chat about art, truth, and being human. Raw, funny, and unexpectedly enlightening — this is the sound of music and meaning colliding in real time.