We’re back — and it’s 2026.
In this episode of the Nat and Mat Podcast, Nat and Mat ease into the new year with an open, honest conversation about where things are at — creatively, personally, and collectively.
From reflections on music and the creative process, to the strange feeling of time speeding up, to the quiet pressure we all feel to “have it together,” this episode is less about answers and more about noticing what’s actually happening right now.
It’s a relaxed, thoughtful check-in — part conversation, part reflection — touching on creativity, uncertainty, growth, and what it means to keep showing up as a human being in an increasingly noisy world.
If you’re entering the year feeling curious, unsettled, hopeful, or somewhere in between, this one’s for you.
🎧 New episodes of the Nat and Mat Podcast explore music, life, creativity, philosophy, and the beautifully messy experience of being human.

Thanks for wandering through the cosmic confusion with us. If you’d like to hear what Nat and Mat sound like when they’re actually trying, listen to their music:
🎶 Iris Belhaze — mysterious, emotional, indie magic: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=FkB2ZkjyRU-xP3_FuFAywg
🎶 Mat Creedon — sonic wizard, bowl banger, occasional philosopher: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=Xtiz0sSrSDG432F-ntLrqA
New episodes weekly. No guarantees of sanity.

In this special Christmas episode of the Nat & Mat Podcast, the conversation drifts into shamanic ideas, ancient ritual, and what Christmas may have once represented beyond the modern rush, noise, and consumerism.
Nat and Mat explore themes of symbolism, tradition, altered states, community, and the quieter inner meaning of seasonal rituals — while keeping things grounded, curious, and lightly humorous. It’s not about belief systems or dogma, but about noticing how ancient ways of marking time, reflection, and connection still echo through modern life.
As always, the discussion wanders — touching on spirituality, human nature, presence, and how we might reconnect with meaning during a time that’s often anything but peaceful.
This episode is for anyone who:

• Feels Christmas has become a bit… loud
• Is curious about ancient or shamanic perspectives
• Enjoys reflective conversation without preaching
• Or simply wants a slower, more thoughtful take on the season

Pour a drink, take a breath, and join Nat and Mat for a relaxed, end-of-year conversation about Christmas, consciousness, and what might still be worth keeping from the old ways.

Thanks for wandering through the cosmic confusion with us. If you’d like to hear what Nat and Mat sound like when they’re actually trying, listen to their music:
🎶 Iris Belhaze — mysterious, emotional, indie magic: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=FkB2ZkjyRU-xP3_FuFAywg
🎶 Mat Creedon — sonic wizard, bowl banger, occasional philosopher: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=Xtiz0sSrSDG432F-ntLrqA
New episodes weekly. No guarantees of sanity.

In this episode of the Nat & Mat Podcast, the conversation turns toward peace — what it is, why we want it so badly, and why chasing it can sometimes push it further away.
Nat and Mat explore ideas around presence, letting go, inner stillness, emotional resistance, and the strange human habit of over-complicating what might actually be very simple. Along the way, they reflect on everyday life, personal experiences, and the subtle difference between seeking peace and allowing it.
As always, the discussion moves freely between the philosophical and the practical, with moments of humour, honesty, and gentle insight.
This episode is for anyone who’s:

• Tired of striving
• Curious about presence and awareness
• Interested in inner peace without dogma
• Or just enjoys thoughtful conversation that doesn’t pretend to have all the answers

Settle in, breathe out, and join Nat and Mat for a grounded, meandering conversation about peace — and what might already be closer than we think.

Thanks for wandering through the cosmic confusion with us. If you’d like to hear what Nat and Mat sound like when they’re actually trying, listen to their music:
🎶 Iris Belhaze — mysterious, emotional, indie magic: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=FkB2ZkjyRU-xP3_FuFAywg
🎶 Mat Creedon — sonic wizard, bowl banger, occasional philosopher: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=Xtiz0sSrSDG432F-ntLrqA
New episodes weekly. No guarantees of sanity.

In this episode, Nat and Mat fall headfirst into the mysteries of ancient civilisations — from the secrets of the Egyptian pyramids to the curious case of Tutankhamun, and whether human consciousness was once far more advanced than it is today.
Along the way they detour (as always) into alien technology, reincarnation theories, unusual bird behaviour, consciousness experiments, and why modern humans may not actually be the smartest versions of ourselves.
It’s a blend of history, speculation, humour, and the kind of philosophical spirals that only Nat and Mat can produce.
If you love:

• Ancient Egypt
• Alien theories
• Consciousness chats
• Mystical rabbit holes
• Or just two people laughing their way through big questions

…this episode is absolutely your vibe.
Grab a cuppa, settle in, and join us as we try to answer the biggest questions in history — and accidentally create a few more.

Thanks for wandering through the cosmic confusion with us. If you’d like to hear what Nat and Mat sound like when they’re actually trying, listen to their music:
🎶 Iris Belhaze — mysterious, emotional, indie magic: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=FkB2ZkjyRU-xP3_FuFAywg
🎶 Mat Creedon — sonic wizard, bowl banger, occasional philosopher: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=Xtiz0sSrSDG432F-ntLrqA
New episodes weekly. No guarantees of sanity.

In this episode of The Nat & Mat Podcast, we dive head-first into a scatter-gun flow of ideas — from UFOs and government disclosure to the strange patterns behind secrecy, belief, and why the world might not be ready for the truth.
Nat and Mat unpack the deeper questions behind extraterrestrial sightings, hidden tech, human psychology, and the subtle ways society reacts to the unknown. Mixed in with the cosmic conversation, we explore creativity, music-making, and the personal philosophies that shape how we see reality.
It’s curious, playful, grounded, and just the right amount of mysterious — a classic Nat & Mat ride.
If you love open-minded conversations that wander from the everyday to the extraordinary, you’ll feel right at home.

🎵 Listen to Iris Belhaze on Spotify: 👉 https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=5AhmFyfBSbKXtI1meT4n9Q
🎵 Listen to Mat Creedon on Spotify: 👉 https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=f9Q4MjPmRFutjBBXfM6jXw

Thanks for wandering through the cosmic confusion with us. If you’d like to hear what Nat and Mat sound like when they’re actually trying, listen to their music:
🎶 Iris Belhaze — mysterious, emotional, indie magic: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=FkB2ZkjyRU-xP3_FuFAywg
🎶 Mat Creedon — sonic wizard, bowl banger, occasional philosopher: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=Xtiz0sSrSDG432F-ntLrqA
New episodes weekly. No guarantees of sanity.

In this week’s Nat & Mat Session, we dive into the origins of our new track “Scatter Gun” — a song shaped by messy ideas, sudden inspiration, and a brand-new drum kit that completely changed the vibe of the studio.
Nat and Mat unpack the creative process behind the song, the way ideas sometimes shoot off in every direction, and how embracing chaos can actually lead to clarity. We talk workflow, instincts, overthinking, underthinking, and all the beautifully human stuff that happens before the music finally clicks into place.
If you love hearing the real behind-the-scenes of independent music making — raw conversations, unexpected tangents, and genuine creative discovery — this episode is for you.

🎵 Listen to Iris Belhaze on Spotify: 👉 https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=5AhmFyfBSbKXtI1meT4n9Q
🎵 Listen to Mat Creedon on Spotify: 👉 https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=f9Q4MjPmRFutjBBXfM6jXw

Thanks for wandering through the cosmic confusion with us. If you’d like to hear what Nat and Mat sound like when they’re actually trying, listen to their music:
🎶 Iris Belhaze — mysterious, emotional, indie magic: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=FkB2ZkjyRU-xP3_FuFAywg
🎶 Mat Creedon — sonic wizard, bowl banger, occasional philosopher: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=Xtiz0sSrSDG432F-ntLrqA
New episodes weekly. No guarantees of sanity.

On this episode of the Nat & Mat Podcast, we take a deep dive into one of the most intriguing stories in modern UFO lore — the wild, controversial, endlessly-debated world of Bob Lazar. From claims of reverse-engineered alien craft to moral dilemmas, strange surveillance, shadowy agencies, and the cost of speaking out, we unpack what makes his story so enduring… and so unsettling.
Between talk of UAPs and suppressed technology, we also head back into the studio to work on our new track “Scatter Gun.” As always, the conversation wanders through creativity, curiosity, ethics, and the strange mystery of being human in a universe that’s probably more crowded than we think.
If you love music, mayhem, and mysteries of the universe — this one’s for you.

🎵 Listen to Iris Belhaze on Spotify: 👉 https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=5AhmFyfBSbKXtI1meT4n9Q
🎵 Listen to Mat Creedon on Spotify: 👉 https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=f9Q4MjPmRFutjBBXfM6jXw

Thanks for wandering through the cosmic confusion with us. If you’d like to hear what Nat and Mat sound like when they’re actually trying, listen to their music:
🎶 Iris Belhaze — mysterious, emotional, indie magic: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=FkB2ZkjyRU-xP3_FuFAywg
🎶 Mat Creedon — sonic wizard, bowl banger, occasional philosopher: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=Xtiz0sSrSDG432F-ntLrqA
New episodes weekly. No guarantees of sanity.

This week on the Nat & Mat Podcast, we dive deep into the messy, fascinating world of AI-generated art — and why so many artists feel it’s missing something real. We explore the moral dilemmas, creative frustrations, and the big question everyone’s asking: Can AI actually make meaningful art, or just really convincing copies?
Along the way, we take you behind the scenes of recording vocals for our upcoming track “Shy”, sharing insights about the creative process, performance pressure, and what it means to make something honest in a world full of shortcuts.
If you’ve ever wondered where human creativity fits into the future — or you just want to hear what goes into tracking vocals for an indie record — this episode is for you.

🎵 Listen to Iris Belhaze on Spotify: 👉 https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=5AhmFyfBSbKXtI1meT4n9Q
🎵 Listen to Mat Creedon on Spotify: 👉 https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=f9Q4MjPmRFutjBBXfM6jXw

Thanks for wandering through the cosmic confusion with us. If you’d like to hear what Nat and Mat sound like when they’re actually trying, listen to their music:
🎶 Iris Belhaze — mysterious, emotional, indie magic: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=FkB2ZkjyRU-xP3_FuFAywg
🎶 Mat Creedon — sonic wizard, bowl banger, occasional philosopher: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=Xtiz0sSrSDG432F-ntLrqA
New episodes weekly. No guarantees of sanity.

This week on the Nat & Mat Podcast, Natalie Zannoni (Iris Belhaze) and Mat Creedon dive back into the studio to keep working on their song “Shy.”
What starts as a day of recording vocal harmonies quickly turns into a classic Nat and Mat mixed bag — a free-flowing chat about cold showers, working with kids, playing games, being vegetarian, diets, dealing with the outside world, and that familiar inner critic we all wrestle with — self-judgement.
It’s another unedited, open-ended journey through sound, humour, and honest reflection — the kind of conversation that reminds you why it’s okay to just be human.
🎧 Listen to the episode: 👉 https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-nat-mat-sessions–6760133
🎵 Listen to Iris Belhaze on Spotify: 👉 https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=5AhmFyfBSbKXtI1meT4n9Q
🎵 Listen to Mat Creedon on Spotify: 👉 https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=f9Q4MjPmRFutjBBXfM6jXw



Thanks for wandering through the cosmic confusion with us. If you’d like to hear what Nat and Mat sound like when they’re actually trying, listen to their music:
🎶 Iris Belhaze — mysterious, emotional, indie magic: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=FkB2ZkjyRU-xP3_FuFAywg
🎶 Mat Creedon — sonic wizard, bowl banger, occasional philosopher: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=Xtiz0sSrSDG432F-ntLrqA
New episodes weekly. No guarantees of sanity.

This week on the Nat & Mat Podcast, Natalie Zannoni (Iris Belhaze) and Mat Creedon return to the studio to keep shaping their new song “Shy.”
Between takes, the conversation drifts into one of those late-night tangents that only seem to happen when the mic’s still hot — a mixed bag of reflections on social perception, identity, and the strange pressure to present the “perfect” version of ourselves to the world.
How do we prove to others who we really are? And can we ever be truly seen, knowing that no matter what we say or do, someone out there will still misinterpret it?
It’s another raw, unedited window into art, honesty, and human nature — where the music and the moment blur into one.
🎧 Listen to the episode: 👉 https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-nat-mat-sessions–6760133
🎵 Listen to Iris Belhaze on Spotify: 👉 https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=5AhmFyfBSbKXtI1meT4n9Q
🎵 Listen to Mat Creedon on Spotify: 👉 https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=f9Q4MjPmRFutjBBXfM6jXw

Thanks for wandering through the cosmic confusion with us. If you’d like to hear what Nat and Mat sound like when they’re actually trying, listen to their music:
🎶 Iris Belhaze — mysterious, emotional, indie magic: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4nRV37P5mZCDvH0WnB6zlM?si=FkB2ZkjyRU-xP3_FuFAywg
🎶 Mat Creedon — sonic wizard, bowl banger, occasional philosopher: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0I59ZpA9ngsaNrPOCT1Ct1?si=Xtiz0sSrSDG432F-ntLrqA
New episodes weekly. No guarantees of sanity.