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Why Would God Make the Damned? https://youtu.be/H2Ja5WeOo1A

In this episode, Dr. Jacobs examines the contrasting views on divine foreknowledge between Western and Eastern Christian traditions. He’ll explore the perspectives of Augustine, Aquinas, and John Duns Scotus from the Latin West juxtaposed against John of Damascus, Basil of Caesarea and Origen from the Christian East. Dr. Jacobs clears up misconceptions and shows that the Eastern Church Fathers were not open theists. The answers from the east may surprise you. 

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00:00:00 Intro 

00:06:58 The various views of divine foreknowledge 

0015:16 The Latin West on foreknowledge 

00:41:39 The Christian East on foreknowledge 

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In this sixth and final installment on the Problem of Evil, Dr. Jacobs explores the Eastern Fathers' understanding of The Fall, demonic influence, and animal suffering. The episode examines how the church fathers interpreted humanity's departure from divine communion and its consequences. The Eastern tradition frames suffering within creation's journey toward the 8th Day—a restoration and fulfillment beyond fallen existence. This final episode synthesizes the patristic view of evil's nature and God's redemptive plan for all creation.

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https://www.academia.edu/41586437/The_Metaphysical_Idealism_of_the_Eastern_Church_Fathers

In this fifth installment on the Problem of Evil, Dr. Jacobs examines the patristic narrative, exploring how the early church fathers understood creation's purpose and humanity's relationship with the divine. The episode investigates the Genesis narrative through a patristic lens, revealing how creation was designed for communion and participation in divine life. Learn how partaking in the divine will offers a framework for understanding evil not as God's creation, but as a privation of good. 

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00:00:00 Intro 

00:10:22 The nature of God 

00:41:58 God & Creation 

01:02:32 Why even create creatures with free will? 

01:05:31 The Genesis creation narrative 

Dr. Jacobs gives feedback on the recently viral Cliffe & Stuart Knechtle clip with an Orthodox college student. You’ll get a rundown of some specific differences between Eastern and Western Christianity and why they can’t be ignored in discussions like this. Specifically you’ll hear about basic misunderstandings of grace and works. 

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Dr. Jacobs explains the Eastern Christian understanding of Christ's descent into Hades, distinguishing it from Hell. The letter clarifies how Eastern Church fathers viewed Christ's descent as destroying death's power and liberating humanity. A comparison with Western theological perspectives reveals fundamental differences in how these traditions understand this doctrine.

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In this fourth installment on the Problem of Evil, Dr. Jacobs explores the complex relationship between divine providence and human freedom. What does it mean that God delegates subsovereignce to creation? And how does divine foreknowledge interact with human self-determination? Tune in as we examine biblical figures like Abraham, Job, and Saul alongside the desecration of goodness and the atheist's problem with evil. This episode lays crucial groundwork for understanding the synergistic nature of providence before our final exploration of theodicy.

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00:00:00 Intro 

00:02:13 The rational ordering principle

00:13:17 What is the individual? 

00:32:05 Divine foreknowledge 

00:40:08 Abraham, Job, & Saul 

00:52:06 Providence: blueprint or synergy? 

01:01:29 The desecration of goodness

01:08:28 The atheist’s evil problem 

01:18:51 So why doesn’t God intervene? 

01:34:30 God delegates subsovereignce  

01:46:06 A critical feature of providence 

01:49:51 What DOES God do? 

01:56:49 The divine energies 

02:16:40 The synergistic nature of providence 

02:27:17 Engaging in self-determination

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In this third installment on the Problem of Evil, Dr. Jacobs lays the groundwork for understanding Eastern patristic theodicy. Why can God do no evil, despite having free will? And why don’t these conditions apply to humans? Tune in because this will lay the foundation for the finale episode on the problem of evil. 

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00:00:00 Intro 

00:05:18 The narrative of the problem of evil 

00:18:29 A refresher: goodness, evil, and the great chain of being

00:33:03 If God has free will and can’t commit evil, why can’t humans do the same? 

01:02:55 The permissive will of God 

Go to 33:15 to skip the recap of the first installment  

In this second installment on the Problem of Evil, Dr. Jacobs looks at the notion that our world is an orchestral expression of divine goodness. But this insight reveals the uncomfortable fact that not all goods can co-exist and many goods are entangled with evils. So, though we may casually speak about the idea that God can do anything, the choices of providence are far more complex than the average person admits. 

00:00:00 Intro and recap of part 1 

00:33:15 The great chain of being 

00:52:29 The myopic focus on evil over goodness 

01:07:55 The complex puzzle of making man 

01:26:30 God must forego certain goods 

01:34:09 Complex goods 

01:57:53 Is some amount of evil tolerable? 

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My Wild Ride to Orthodoxy https://youtu.be/yRYBsOXX3e0

Part 1 on Problem of Divine Hiddenness: https://youtu.be/J7uP9uFNThY

Today Dr. Jacobs will examine the basic philosophical and theological elements of the Problem of Evil. He’ll explore perspectives from Christian tradition and philosophical discourse. The episode tackles key concepts including free will, divine permission, and whether a sinless world would be preferable.

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00:00:00 Intro 

00:10:34 What is the Problem of Evil?

00:14:34 What is evil? (Illusion, metaphysical dualism, or privation) 

00:31:25 Why Christianity is the most compelling option (And the atheist’s coherence problem)

00:47:36 Problems with the anti-proofs 

01:01:39 The Free Will Defense 

01:13:42 The Possible Worlds Theory 

01:25:59 Is a sinless world preferable? 

01:30:08 The permissive and consequent will of God 

01:49:25 The Christian narrative  

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The early church fathers went to great lengths to ensure that the followers of Christ did not innovate but rather perpetuate “the faith which was once delivered unto the saints” (Jude 1:3), and this conversation seeks to understand what they meant, where we may have gotten off track, and what it means to become truly human through Christ.

Topics discussed include: 

- Balancing academic research and writing with artistic innovation and creation

- A search for authenticity and authority led Jacobs to study the early church fathers, such as Athanasius of Alexandria, where he came to realize the difference of thought between Eastern and Western Christianity

- Ephesians, examining the use of the term “energeia” by Paul, and understanding that faith and works are not in opposition

- Ecumenical councils where early church fathers defended the faith by answering the question “What is the faith that we received handed down by the apostles?”

- Biblical illiteracy, historical ignorance, and troubling Trinitarian analogies

- The importance of a Trinitarian God as opposed to Unitarian

- The sophistication of the early church fathers and our anachronistic belief that we are more intelligent than our ancestors, theologically speaking or otherwise

- Distinguishing between creation and types of causation

- Biblical terminology getting lost in translation and the linguistic advantage the early church fathers had over the scholars that proceeded them

- Understanding the balance between rationality and mystery

- Addressing the Holy Mystery of the Eucharist

- Objectivity in academics, distinctions between different systems of thought, and the systems of thought creating the biggest divide between Eastern and Western Christianity

- The difficulty of communicating complex issues in a soundbite culture

- The importance of Christians being part of a church community; and should Christians confess their sins?