In this episode of As In Heaven, Jim Davis and Skyler Flowers welcome Derek Rishmawy to discuss engaging upcoming generations, especially college students. They continue the conversation around the missed generational handoff and share practical steps that parents and church leaders can take to disciple and instill a love of the local church and an affection for the gospel among college students.

Episode time stamps:

• Episode and guest introduction (0:00)
• College ministry and the pressure to succeed (8:06)
• Other pressures experienced in college (12:32)
• College and the unique opportunities it presents (19:08)
• College students are more open to discussing faith than people think (24:18)
• The defeatist mentality (31:19)
• College as a mission field (32:37)
• Having a kingdom mindset and working together (39:31)

This episode is part of As In Heaven’s third season, devoted to The Great Dechurching—the largest and fastest religious shift in U.S. history. To learn more about this phenomenon on which the episodes of this season are based, preorder The Great Dechurching by Michael Graham and Jim Davis.