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  • Own Your Running: Roberto Mandje's Evolution as an Athlete

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    Summary

    In this conversation, Roberto shares his journey from a young boy in Barcelona to becoming an accomplished runner and Olympian. He discusses the importance of a well-rounded sports background, the mindset shifts that occurred during his growth as an athlete, and the significance of representing Equatorial Guinea on the world stage. Roberto reflects on the challenges of transitioning through different stages of his athletic career and the importance of maintaining a multifaceted identity beyond just being a runner. He discusses the endurance mindset, the work of Athlete's Soul in helping retired athletes, and his personal challenge of running seven marathons in seven days. 


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction and Background

    03:11 The Journey to Running

    05:54 Mindset and Growth in Sports

    08:47 Transitioning to the Olympics

    11:52 Representing Equatorial Guinea

    14:47 Identity and Evolution as an Athlete

    18:04 Life After the Olympics

    19:43 The Reality of Professional Athletics

    22:41 Lessons in Storytelling and Marketing

    24:57 Endurance Mindset: Life as a Marathon

    29:01 Bridging the Gap: Athlete's Soul

    31:18 Seven Marathons in Seven Days: A Personal Challenge

    34:46 Coaching: Sharing the Joy of Running

    39:50 The Role of a Pacer: Supporting Others

    40:06 Evolving Relationship with Running

    41:54 Advice for Transitioning Athletes


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    @robertomandje, website: mandjecoaching.com 


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    49 min
  • Bet On Yourself: Kenneth Imo's Advice to Student Athletes

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    Summary

    In this conversation, Kenneth Imo shares his journey from being a Nigerian immigrant's son to becoming a college football player at SMU. He discusses the identity struggles of being a student athlete, the values instilled by his parents, and the importance of balancing academics with athletics. Kenneth reflects on his experiences in high school football, the recruitment process, and the pressures that come with being a student athlete. He emphasizes the significance of mentorship and personal growth, offering advice to future student athletes about prioritizing their education and understanding their identity beyond sports. Kenneth discusses the challenges of identity shifts after sports, the lessons he imparts to his daughters, and his mission to help current and former athletes navigate their transitions. He highlights the value of mentorship, resilience, and the need to bet on oneself in pursuing personal and professional goals.


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction

    01:07 The Identity of a Student Athlete

    03:07 Family Values and Immigrant Experience

    06:09 The Role of Football in Identity Formation

    09:04 High School Football and College Recruitment

    12:06 Transitioning to College Football at SMU

    14:58 The Pressure of Being a Student Athlete

    18:01 Experiencing Game Day and Success

    19:54 Shifting Focus to Academics

    23:03 Mentorship and Academic Growth

    25:56 Advice for Future Student Athletes

    27:27 The End of the Game: Embracing Change

    31:38 Lessons from the Field: Transferable Skills

    37:00 Parenting and Life Lessons: Teaching Resilience

    42:13 Identity Shift: From Athlete to Student

    50:21 Building a Legacy: Coaching and Consulting for Athletes


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    1 hr 1 min
  • The Comeback: Rachel Miller on Why It's Always Available

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    Summary

    In this engaging conversation, Rachel Miller shares her journey from a young athlete to a mother and entrepreneur, discussing the pressures of competition, the emotional challenges of stepping away from sport, and the inspiring story of her comeback. She emphasizes the importance of identity, support systems, and the impact of motherhood on her athletic career. Rachel also highlights her transition into personal training and her passion for empowering women, while reflecting on the lessons learned throughout her journey.


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction

    02:01 The Journey of a Young Athlete

    06:02 Navigating Pressure and Expectations

    10:01 The Comeback Story Begins

    19:49 Representing Your Country

    25:06 Sharing the Comeback Journey

    30:05 Transitioning Beyond Athletics

    34:01 Building a Business and Identity

    39:55 Goals and Future Aspirations


    Relevant Links & Contact

    IG:@millsthemain Linkedin 'rachelmillsmiller' to learn more about me


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    47 min
  • Finding Alignment: Ed Lubowicki on the Athlete Edge

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    Summary

    In this episode, Derika sits down with Ed Lubowicki, a former Notre Dame lacrosse player and current University of Pennsylvania researcher. Ed shares his journey from the "OG American sport" to a high-pressure career in cyber risk at Deloitte, describing the "slow burn" of realizing he was in a career that didn't align with his true strengths. Now an entrepreneur and graduate student, Ed discusses his research into "Athletic Identity Foreclosure" and his mission to help athletes realize they aren't struggling—they are simply overqualified for the "games" they've chosen to play in the corporate world.


    Chapters

    Introduction to Lacrosse

    The Road to Notre Dame

    The "Quick Switch" of Retirement

    The NYC "Slow Burn"

    Identifying the Gap

    Researching "Athletic Identity Foreclosure"

    The Athlete Edge Alignment System

    The Roller Coaster of Entrepreneurship

    Final Thoughts


    Relevant Links & Contact

    website  assessment, LinkedIn


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    39 min
  • Liminal Space: Dawn Sanders on Riding the Wave of Transition

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    Summary

    In this episode, Derika speaks with Dawn Sanders, co-founder of Winwell, about the complex journey of athletes transitioning out of professional sports. Dawn shares her personal evolution from a track athlete and England rugby player to a pioneer in "performance lifestyle coaching" at the UK Sports Institute. The conversation delves into the identity crisis that follows retirement, the "silent army" of support staff helping athletes plan for life beyond the field, and how sports organizations can better support their human capital throughout their entire career cycle.


    Chapters

    0:00 Introduction how a LinkedIn algorithm brought Derika and Dawn together.

    01:33 Dawn's early athletic career, including her 18th birthday party with Paula Radcliffe.

    03:10 The daunting experience of playing for the national team and the resilience required in the semi-pro era.

    05:55 Addressing the psychological impact of "hanging up the boots" and the physical changes that follow.

    08:38 Replacing the rugby team environment with local field hockey and maintaining social connections.

    10:55 Dawn’s 23-year career at the Institute and shifting from "advisor" to "practitioner".

    16:21 Breaking down the five phases of transition support and helping athletes find their "why".

    26:07 The responsibility of governing bodies and advice for loved ones during an athlete’s transition.

    33:01 Dawn’s journey into entrepreneurship and her global goals for the "performance lifestyle movement".

    38:13 Final thoughts on being kind to yourself during life's uncomfortable middle zones.


    Relevant Links & Contact

    Website: www.winwell.org.uk 

    LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/dawnmariasanders 

    Email: [email protected]

    Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/4TZJyXI39sX3D2S2pvhKAO?si=5ca1ec1154a94b92


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    44 min
  • Parallels: Where Sport and Business Intersect with Jenny Casson

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    Summary

    In this conversation, Jenny Casson shares her journey as a multi-sport athlete who transitioned into rowing and ultimately became a two-time Olympian. She discusses the importance of a diverse athletic background, the challenges of identity and injury, and the emotional rollercoaster of competing at the Olympic level. Jenny also reflects on the post-Olympic experience and the mental health challenges that can arise after such significant achievements. Jenny emphasizes the transferable skills from sports to business, the need for adaptability in a constantly changing environment, and the significance of personal growth and community support. She also touches on her current role in AI and the balance between her personal and professional goals, encouraging listeners to embrace their journeys and never underestimate their achievements.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction and Background

    03:01 The Importance of Multi-Sport Backgrounds

    05:46 Identity and Injury in Sports

    08:59 Transition to Rowing and Discovering Talent

    11:46 The Road to the Olympics

    15:07 Experiencing Olympic Competition

    18:07 Post-Olympic Reflections and Challenges

    25:06 The Emotional Toll of Transitioning from Sports

    26:37 Preparing for Life After Competition

    28:51 Finding Purpose Beyond Athletics

    30:41 The Journey of Entrepreneurship

    33:06 Translating Athletic Skills to Business

    36:17 Navigating the Uncertainty of Business Goals

    38:13 Embracing New Challenges in AI

    42:27 Balancing Personal and Professional Goals

    44:41 Staying Active and Engaged

    47:03 Final Thoughts on Connection and Growth

    Relevant Links & Contact

    @Jenny_joan_casson (IG)

    @daylilie_bras (IG)

    www.jennyjoancasson.com (website, personal)

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    44 min
  • Do It Now: How Steve Moore is Helping Athletes Transition Beyond Sport

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     Summary

    In this conversation, Steve Moore shares his journey from being a soccer player to becoming a professional rugby player, discussing the transition from amateur to professional sports, the challenges of retirement, and how he found his way back to rugby through coaching and entrepreneurship. He emphasizes the importance of community, the fun aspect of sports, and the need for open communication during transitions. He discusses the skills he learned from sports that helped him in business, the inspiration behind ACT, and the mission to support athletes in their career transitions. Steve emphasizes the importance of early preparation for life after sports and how athletes can articulate their unique skills to potential employers. He also outlines the future goals for ACT Community, aiming to create a supportive environment for athletes navigating their transitions.


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction

    01:10 Steve's Rugby Journey: From Soccer to Elite Player

    04:49 The Culture and Camaraderie of Rugby

    05:21 Transition from Fun to Professional Sport

    10:47 Lessons from Rugby for US Athletes Entering Pro League

    11:17 Advice for Athletes Going Pro

    13:11 Thinking About Life After Sport

    14:54 The End of a Playing Career: Emotions and Reflections

    16:54 The Reality of Retirement and Injury

    18:35 Post-Retirement Challenges and Identity

    25:02 Re-engaging with Rugby and Community

    27:11 From Player to Entrepreneur: The Transition

    33:44 Founding ACT and Supporting Athletes

    36:20 Mission and Approach of ACT

    38:30 Skills from Sport That Drive Business Success

    43:40 Ideal Timing for Transition Planning

    45:31 Starting Early in Career Planning

    48:20 Future Goals for ACT

    52:28 Building a Community for Retiring Athletes

    54:19 Final Thoughts and Advice for Athletes


    Relevant Links & Contact

    - Website: www.act.community

    - X (Twitter): https://x.com/act_community (https://x.com/act_community)

    - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actforathletes (https://www.instagram.com/actforathletes)

    - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/act-community (https://www.linkedin.com/company/act-community)


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    58 min
  • Ask for Help: Madeline Davis Tully on Leaning on Your People

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    Summary

    In this conversation, Madeline Davis Tully shares her journey from a young girl watching her father row to becoming a competitive rower at Princeton University. She discusses the challenges and rewards of rowing, the transition to collegiate athletics, and the importance of preparation and mindset in competition. Madeline also reflects on her experiences in recruitment, the emotional aspects of leaving college sports, and her uncertain career path after rowing, ultimately leading her to a fulfilling role in education and coaching. 

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Madeline Davis Tully

    01:30 The Journey into Rowing

    06:00 The Rigors of Rowing Training

    10:04 Transitioning to College Rowing

    15:02 Navigating Recruitment and College Choices

    19:56 Reflections on Competitive Experiences

    23:04 Life After Rowing: Career Pathways

    24:43 Discovering a Passion for Coaching

    26:09 Navigating Transitions in Coaching

    28:07 Reflections on Leadership and Team Dynamics

    30:21 The Intersection of Coaching and Leadership Development

    33:13 The Journey to Entrepreneurship

    36:19 Building a Coaching Business

    39:28 Goals and Aspirations for the Future

    40:46 Finding Balance in Athletic Pursuits

    42:43 Embracing New Challenges and Skills

    46:29 The Importance of Seeking Help

    48:42 Connecting with Madeline Davis Tully


    Relevant Links & Contact

    www.mdtlead.com

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/madelinedavistully/


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    52 min
  • Full Circle: How Dallen Stanford Went from Player to Commentator

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    Summary

    In this engaging conversation, Dallen Stanford shares his journey from growing up in South Africa, where rugby is a way of life, to becoming a key player on the USA Sevens team. He discusses the unique culture of rugby, the challenges of transitioning from player to commentator, and the importance of community and mindset in sports. Dallen emphasizes the value of maintaining a positive attitude and a growth mindset, especially when facing the inevitable changes and challenges in an athlete's career. Dallen discusses how he became a commentator, the steps to set oneself up for success in any field, and the surprises he encountered while building his business. He also reflects on his experiences as an ambassador for various initiatives and shares memorable moments from his commentating career. The conversation concludes with Dallen's insights on personal development and the importance of pursuing one's passions.


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Dallen Stanford

    01:09 Dallen's Rugby Journey Begins

    03:51 Transitioning to the USA Sevens Team

    08:11 The Culture of Rugby

    12:00 Integrating into New Cultures

    13:58 The Pressure of Professional Sports

    17:11 The Last Game and Its Impact

    19:03 Finding New Highs After Playing

    21:02 Principles for Achieving Goals

    23:55 Embracing a Growth Mindset

    26:47 The Journey to Becoming a Commentator

    30:11 Setting Yourself Up for Success

    34:01 Building a Business from Passion

    36:40 Surprises in Entrepreneurship

    38:25 The Role of an Ambassador

    41:06 Top Commentating Moments

    45:22 Final Thoughts and Future Aspirations


    Relevant Links & Contact

    https://dallenstanford.com/

    https://playrugbyusa.org/

    https://www.algarve7s.com/

    https://avantebrandy.com/?srsltid=AfmBOopgPXphmpasbY8Rk6X-0G7PXEQMZYxA1KfK0p32cVMugrBa8L7o

    https://www.tsunami-sport.com/


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    51 min
  • Wolves and Tea: How Kenny Borg Thinks About Identity

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    Summary

    In this conversation, Kenny Borg shares his journey from being a 250-pound football player to navigating life after sports, including the challenges of injury, identity shifts, and the transition into entrepreneurship and coaching. He discusses the importance of community, the impact of fatherhood, and his passions for wolves and tea, emphasizing the integration of these elements into his professional life. Kenny reflects on the lessons learned through his experiences and the significance of trusting the process of personal growth.


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction and Personal Updates

    02:59 Reflecting on Athletic Identity and Transition

    06:10 The Impact of Injury on Career and Identity

    09:10 Navigating Life After Football

    12:05 Entrepreneurial Journey and Lessons Learned

    14:57 The Role of Coaching in Personal Growth

    18:03 Exploring Coaching and Mentorship

    21:07 Fatherhood and Its Challenges

    24:07 Passions Beyond Coaching: Wolves and Tea

    26:53 Integrating Passions into Professional Life

    29:50 Future Aspirations and Community Building

    32:58 Final Thoughts and Reflections


    Relevant Links & Contact

    https://www.kennyborg.com/

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennyborg/

    https://wolfconnection.org/


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    40 min

About The Next Playbook

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The Next Playbook podcast delves into the post-athletic careers of top-tier athletes, hosted by Derika. Each episode features candid conversations with former Olympians, professional athletes, and…