The VPN paradigm has grown stale, with simple one-party providers being the best available. But what if we could further minimize trust by shift to a two-party hop system? Obscura is doing just that, and we’re sitting down with their founder Carl Dong to learn all about it.

More about Carl

• Carl’s guest profile – https://optoutpod.com/guests/carl-dong/

More about Obscura

• Website: https://obscura.net/
• Obscura’s Twitter: https://x.com/obscuravpn
• Technical Blog Post on Obscura: https://obscura.net/blog/bootstrapping-trust/
• iCloud Private Relay: https://www.apple.com/icloud/docs/iCloud_Private_Relay_Overview_Dec2021.pdf
• MASQUE at the IETF: https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/masque/about/

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