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January 05, 2025Ep.105 - Happy (late) New Year, Christmas Vibes and what caught our curious eye in 24
Reflecting on the year of 2024 seemed like such a good idea. That's the thing right?
Launching that episode as quickly as planned didn't go as well as planned....
Drinking their own Kool-Aid and embracing serendipity, mistakes and experimentation The Occupational Philosophers still hit launch and took on the gift of a slightly delayed episode like a gift from the Norse Gods.
In this episode the deep themes of:
Are bananas and tape art? If not, who said so?
Brain Rot (very festive)
The Occupational Philosophers wish you all the best for 2025 whilst they take a short break. Simon's vanity will be in full forward as he desperately tries to lose some weight for summer beach vibes and John will be sadly staring out the window looking at a grey, drab British day and looking forward to June when the sun comes out
They both look forward to catching up in mid Feb when back on deck - ahoy 2025!
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Their day jobs:
JOHN: https://www.bowlandconsulting.com/
SIMON: www.simonbanks.com.au
SIMON SHOWREEL: https://youtu.be/YZQdJI6qGvg
15 min
December 06, 2024Ep.103: Why curiosity is at the heart of great design, with Rozhia Tabnak.
In episode 103, The Occupational Philosophers chat with Creative Director, Brand Strategist and Poly-Disciplinary Creative Chameleon, Rozhia Tabnak.
Her work includes interior design, art curation, film production design, and graphic work across the spectrum of media. which unite under the umbrella of spatial design. She believes that the design of a space is holistic yet interpretive and that the experience of the client is inextricable from the intent of the designer.
From Manhattan to Miami and several cities in between, Rozhia has designed dozens of restaurants, including the highly acclaimed and award-winning Sofreh in Brooklyn, for which she incorporated a historic and traditional Persian aesthetic into a chic contemporary design.
She has been featured in The New York Times, The New Yorker, Eater and New York Magazin to name a few and divides her time between New York and Sydney.
In this episode, the Occupational Philosophers and Rozhia explore:
How does a project have a soul?
How curiosity is at the heart of great design
Why branding is not just thinking about a logo (and a dirty word)
What is steampunk?
Exactly, what is a Polydisciplinary creative chameleon?
The importance of asking why
What’s my personal why?
Why does the world need what I am producing?
How Curiosity starts with being present
Can you create workspaces that can be both productive and creative?
Why there is no middle ground
And the future hashtag of "Kitch is just past cheesy"
As always, there are some great thought experiments. This time it is the design challenge of "Mission Impossible"
The Occupational Philosophers hope you enjoy listening to the show as much as they enjoyed making it.
www.occupationalphilosophers.com
About Rozhia
Rozhia Website https://rozhiatabnak.com/
Insta https://www.instagram.com/rozhia/
Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/rozhia-tabnak-725b0319/
Show notes & Resources
Everything is alive https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/everything-is-alive/id1388419519
London poetry shop cafe https://www.poetrypharmacy.co.uk/oxford-street
Book - Wabi Sabi for artists, poets and Designers https://www.amazon.com.au/Wabi-Sabi-Artists-Designers-Poets-Philosophers/dp/0981484603
1 hr 17 min
November 06, 2024Ep. 102 - Inbetweener - We are 100 and something!
In this short, sharp Inbetweener episode, The Occupational Philosophers celebrate their “One hundred and something” birthday! As well as an opportunity to blow up some balloons, eat some cake, and pat themselves on the back…they delve back into some highlights from the first 100 episodes and some sage advice from guests who have helped populate the ‘Maniguesto’ tree…
Dr Brock Bastian….Social psychologist…just remember to enjoy the journey
Professor Sophie Scott….Neuroscientist….how laughter is the gateway drug to creativity
Dr Jen Frahm….change fairy….take more hot showers to spark ideas (literally and metaphorically!)
Ash Perrin…The Flying Seagull Project….every great idea starts out as rubbish
Neil Mullarkey….improv genius and general legend…remember that people are trying their best
Dr Cyndi Burnett….creativity in education….be open to the novel

They hope you enjoy the show.

FYI: The Inbetweeners episodes are just that - smaller episodes 'in between' the longer format episodes designed to give a fruity burst of energy to enable you to be the most curious, creative and imaginative cat you can be - and have some fun in the process.

References:
https://www.brockbastian.com/
https://www.ucl.ac.uk/icn/people/sophie-scott
https://drjenfrahm.com/
https://www.theflyingseagullproject.com/
https://neilmullarkey.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/cyndi-burnett/

Say Hello
www.occupationalphilosophers.com

Their day jobs
JOHN: https://www.bowlandconsulting.com/
SIMON: www.simonbanks.com.au
SIMON SHOWREEL: https://youtu.be/YZQdJI6qGvg
22 min
October 28, 2024Ep.101: Can serendipity open up opportunity for startups? Explore with entrepreneur, Toby Wilkin
To Simon’s delight, this week's guest is fellow Tasmanian Toby Wilkin.
For over 15 years, Toby has been a noteworthy leader in the entrepreneurial space. Born and raised in Tasmania Toby, thoroughly understands tourism and business in the state and beyond. Growing up in an entrepreneurial family in the construction, business and development industry he has shared this passion and success in his entrepreneurial adventures.
Toby has a series of different companies under the groups control including:
Wealth Lab - Taking our experience and world-class sales systems to help other businesses thrive, offering sales & marketing coaching, events and digital presence products.
Torple Energy - An energy rating consultancy firm focusing on sustainable outcomes for new development across Australia.
Zippi Electric Bikes - Focussed on Raising Balanced Kids, this innovative startup was all about fun and kid-focused with Electric eBikes.
In this show, John and Simon dive into Change Overnight. Toby and cofounder Sam Haberle conjured up the idea behind Change Overnight in early 2018 while dreaming of ways they could extend their mission to make a positive impact in the world.
Outside of being a serial entrepreneur, Toby enjoys technology, making a difference and thinking big!
In this episode, The Occupational Philosophers explore:
If you’re open, people seem to present themselves at the right time
How a little wine can bring about some big ideas
How colours and design can make us feel and connect to emotion
It’s OK to be a little uncomfortable
The importance of allowing serendipity and how it can open up opportunity
Why it’s important to put some good energy into the world
How 12 months can seem a long time to some people and a short time to others
Why a little red wine can be the start of a good idea
As always, there is a thought experiment. For this show, it's Trip(advisor) of a lifetime
The Occupational Philosophers hope you enjoy listening to the show as much as they enjoyed making it.

Resources
Toby Wilkin website https://tobywilkin.com/
Change Overnight Hotel https://changeovernight.co/
Why Worry Wally Books https://whyworrywally.com/why-worry-wally
Derren Brown The Secret of Luck (featuring the unlucky butcher!) https://youtu.be/RuRGzZAk7S4?si=z7x84NeFSZPfKPKR

Say Hello to the Occupational Philosophers
www.occupationalphilosophers.com
Their day jobs:
JOHN: www.bowlandconsulting.com
SIMON: www.simonbanks.com.au
SIMON SHOWREEL: https://youtu.be/YZQdJI6qGvg
54 min
October 16, 2024Ep. 100 - Using play to help teams and organisations supercharge their creativity, with guest, Julie Trell.
In Episode 100, The Occupational Philosophers chat with Julie Trell, whose career has been an adventurous journey spanning three decades and various corners of the world.
She started as an inner-city classroom teacher and later became a middle school technology specialist, where she embraced inner playfulness (as well as fixing - and breaking - the computers and network).
Through serendipity and curiosity, she evolved into the VP of All Things Fun, Meaningful, & Rewarding at a (then) startup called Salesforce.
Her path then took her through the vibrant landscapes of Atlanta, San Francisco, Singapore, and Sydney, venturing into the realms of technology and corporate foundation leadership with the Salesforce and Workday Foundations.
In Australia, she led Telstra's corporate startup accelerator, muru-D - There she managed a team and a portfolio of over 140 companies, focusing on supporting the founders across various cohorts.
As the Chief Play Officer of Playful Purpose, she embraces the power of an improv mindset to foster growth and playful spirits among adults. She co-designs and facilitates dynamic workshops for accelerators, portfolio funds, and corporate teams, helping participants unleash curiosity, build confidence, and deepen their understanding of DEI and empathy. My passion for new technologies and continuous learning blends artificial intelligence, AI, with applied improv, AI!
In this episode, they explore:
Exciting job titles to share at your next dinner party
How applied improvisation is the AI we should really be focused on!
Using play to help individuals, teams and organisations fire up their creative synapses
How Generative applied improv helps us exercise our critical thinking skills
How to make people feel heard and feel good when working together
What is curiosivity?
Julie’s work with startups, founders and incubators
Techniques to tackle the ‘play skeptcis’
And how to create floral bouquets out of old toilet roll tubes!

And as ever, enjoy the Thought Experiments …this time it’s:
Through the port (manteau) hole
Listeners questions

Learn more about Julie
https://www.linkedin.com/in/julietrell/
https://playfulpurpose.com/

References
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8erpgy727jo
https://www.nosuchthingasafish.com/
Toilet paper roll flowers - You can check link here.
https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/1163022-act-social
https://www.appliedimprovisationnetwork.org/

The quote: "Being heard is so close to being loved that for the average person, they are almost indistinguishable”. (David W. Augsburger) - BOOK:Caring Enough to Hear and Be Heard: How to Hear and How to Be Heard in Equal Communication
https://muru-d.com/
https://www.sxswsydney.com/
Clip from Whose Startup Is It Anyway

Books:
https://www.breakthroughplay.com/playful-rebellion/
https://www.improvwisdom.com/index.html
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/44333271-playful-mindfulness

Say Hello to the Occupational Philosophers
www.occupationalphilosophers.com
Their day jobs:
JOHN: www.bowlandconsulting.com
SIMON: www.simonbanks.com.au
SIMON SHOWREEL: https://youtu.be/YZQdJI6qGvg
1 hr 14 min
October 01, 2024Ep.99 - Play at Work Has Gone Too Far. Time for a National Serious Day?
Everyone's banging on about play at work. But what about the forgotten people? The ones who haven't smiled since 1985, who stare blankly at walls, who genuinely love a spreadsheet. Where's their day?
In this Inbetweener, John and Simon make the case for a National Serious Day. An antidote to all the frivolity. A corporate liver cleanse to flush out the fun. A chance to finally celebrate the colleagues who have absolutely no personality, hobbies, or sense of humour, and have been quietly enduring forced smiles for decades.
Proposed activities include:
Mandatory silence for the first three hours of the day, with pay docked for any facial expression
A meeting about meetings, with no outcomes, bring your own sandwich
A team-building event where everyone reads the HR handbook out loud, line by line, footnotes included
The ISO 9001 Quality Manual, optional second reading
No jammy dodgers. None.
Halfway through, John realises he actually quite likes the sound of this.
The studies, allegedly, back it up.
A Romanian corporation has introduced No Laughter Mondays and it's now the most attended day of the week. One middle manager reports staring at her apartment wall, thinking about spreadsheets while her colleagues are out golfing, and she's never felt more efficient. Couples who switched to serious-chat-only marriages are going to bed at 9 pm and have never been happier. Children, fed in silence with no bedtime stories, are thriving.
It's basically modern stoicism. Seneca would approve.
The Occupational Philosophers think this idea has legs. Listeners are invited to nominate a date, suggest other national days, and join the movement. Just don't enjoy it.
Stop playing, don't make stuff, stop having fun for goodness sake. Come back inside, open some spreadsheets, and knuckle down some serious work.

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Substack
https://occupationalphilosophers.substack.com/

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Their day jobs
JOHN: https://www.bowlandconsulting.com/
SIMON: www.simonbanks.com.au
SIMON SHOWREEL: https://youtu.be/YZQdJI6qGvg
14 min
September 20, 2024Ep.98 - Inbetweener - How might one think like a Philosopher (at work) ?
How might one think like a Philosopher in the workplace?
In this short, sharp Inbetweener episode, diving into a book by a previous guest, Dr Julian Baggini’s “How to Think like a Philosopher” " the Occupational Philosophers discuss exactly that!
Julian Baggini has 12 key principles that the book is built around for a more humane, balanced, and rational approach to thinking.
These include:
Pay attention
Question everything (including your questions)
Watch your steps
Follow the facts
Watch your language
Be eclectic
Be a psychologist
Know what matters
Lose your ego
Think for yourself, not by yourself
Only connect
Don’t give up.
Whilst they don’t want to big themselves up, The Occupational Philosophers think that diving into Julian’s Book helps them sound a little more intelligent than normal! Whilst you may not agree that they sound smarter, the book is excellent.
They hope you enjoy the show.
FYI: The Inbetweeners episodes are just that - smaller episodes 'in between' the longer format episodes designed to give a fruity burst of energy to enable you to be the most curious, creative and imaginative cat you can be - and have some fun in the process.

References:
Selective Attention: Gorilla walking video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG698U2Mvo
Julian Baggini “How to think like a Philosopher” https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/62708028-how-to-think-like-a-philosopher

Say Hello
www.occupationalphilosophers.com

Their day jobs
JOHN: https://www.bowlandconsulting.com/
SIMON: www.simonbanks.com.au
SIMON SHOWREEL: https://youtu.be/YZQdJI6qGvg
36 min
August 22, 2024Ep.97 - Inbetweener - Is your thinking a little bland? Time to liberate structures
Have you ever sat in a brainstorm and thought, "Well this is pretty shit."
Most of us have and it sucks the energy out of the room like a backwards tornado.
John had a great week, read a book and got so excited about it, he wanted to share some of the possible antidotes to those crap house brainstorms.
In this short, sharp Inbetweener episode, The Occupational Philosophers discuss:
How conventional structures for the way teams meet, problem-solve, and think creatively may be holding them back
Why “Liberating Structures’ can help unleash a culture of innovation
What happens when you get bats, nans and hippos in the room
Some examples of liberating structures; 1-2-4-All, Troika consulting and Min Specs
What is the difference between an MVP and a prototype?
Why we still need to think about the environment along with structures
How to reach out beyond your immediate domain of knowledge to open up minds to possibilities
As ever, The Occupational Philosophers hope you enjoy the show (and tell your friends)
FYI: The Inbetweeners episodes are just that - smaller episodes 'in between' the longer format episodes designed to give a fruity burst of energy to enable you to be the most curious, creative and imaginative cat you can be - and have some fun in the process.
References:
https://www.liberatingstructures.com/
https://www.barbaradoran.org/

Say 'Hello'...
www.occupationalphilosophers.com
Their day jobs
JOHN: https://www.bowlandconsulting.com
SIMON: www.simonbanks.com.au
SIMON SHOWREEL: https://youtu.be/YZQdJI6qGvg
Get in touch
[email protected]
27 min
August 16, 2024Ep.96 - Using Improv to improve your leadership and creativity, with Neil Mullarkey, Author of 'In the Moment'
In Episode 96, The Occupational Philosophers chat with a returning guest, Neil Mullarkey! Neil who embodies the ethos of this shows and plays at the intersection of curiosity, creativity, and serendipity!
His last conversation with the show was way back in 2021 when the world was still reeling from the pandemic, the Tories were still in power, and Jeff Bezos was launching himself into space into a strangely shaped spacecraft….
He co-founded the world-famous improvisation group The Comedy Store Players here in the UK with Mike Myers, later appearing with him in the fabulous Austin Powers movies….who can forget “This sort of thing is my bag baby”...and more recently with Mike Myers in the Pentaverate sporting a lovely moustache.
He is also highly accomplished in the field of management training, running many workshops and conferences for private and public organisations, using the techniques of theatre improvisation to inspire business people to embrace their creativity and enhance their communication skills.
He is a published author of Seven Steps to Improve Your People Skills, and the more recent, In the Moment - both great books and highly recommended
It’s a real delight to welcome back, the man both ‘In the moment’ and man of the moment....Neil Mullarkey!!!!
In this episode, the Occupational Philosophers explore:
The different ways you can organise your bookshelves
What is a moment?
How you can build a Cathedral if everyone brings a brick!
What is adaptive leadership?
Why you need to trust the process of collaborative creativity, saying ‘Yes to the mess’
When you need to be prepared and when you need to let go
Could AI replace Neil?
The experience of writing his book ‘In the Moment’
Why don’t people say ‘ancillary’ or ‘flan’ anymore?
When is a LAGER a LASER? And what does that have to do with Improv?
The wave-particle duality of light…..quantum facilitation anyone?
Why is curiosity the yin to serendipity’s yang?
The story of the ‘lucky butcher’...
And as ever, enjoy the Thought Experiment …this time it’s:
In the What?
Learn more about Neil
https://neilmullarkey.com
https://neilmullarkey.com/inthemomentbook (Discount code available!)
https://www.linkedin.com/in/neilmullarkey
https://comedystoreplayers.com
https://www.improvyourbiz.com
https://acknowledgements.substack.com
References
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67871679.amp
https://news.sky.com/story/hotel-looking-to-hire-banter-merchant-to-entertain-guests-during-edinburgh-festival-fringe-13175451
https://www.michaelconnelly.com
https://www.waterstones.com/book/my-family/david-baddiel/9780008487607
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambozola
1 hr 20 min
July 29, 2024Ep.95 - Inbetweener - If everything is so ambiguous, why is ambiguity avoided?
In episode 95, whilst exploring the nuances of everyday occurrences and slipping between conscious states of being, The Occupational Philosophers dive into the concept of ambiguity.
Why?
The reason? So many challenges that need to be solved have a huge amount of ambiguity around them.
There may be multiple answers
It's a multi-faceted question
It's something where there are no comparable, predictable scenarios
As such, there is risk
What to do?
It's hard for organisations to sit in this space as they are hardwired to try and rationally avoid risk and to look after their profits and shareholders.
However, innovation is born from that space of uncertainty, experimentation and what often hasn't been done before.
Herein lies a conundrum!
The Occupational Philosophers go for a swim in the lake of ambiguity, backstroking through curious questions and diving to the bottom to pick up some rocks of enlightenment.
Whilst not having all the answers, they did feel slightly smarter at the end of the episode.
They also dive into the ambiguous mind puzzle of the Rubix Cube. Mmmm....
The Occupational Philosophers hope you enjoy the show!
FYI: This is a shorter episode 'in between' the longer format episodes designed to give a little kickstart to enable you to be the most curious, creative and imaginative cat you can be - and have some fun in the process
Say 'Hello'...
www.occupationalphilosophers.com
Their day jobs
JOHN: https://www.bowlandconsulting.com
SIMON: www.simonbanks.com.au
SIMON SHOWREEL: https://youtu.be/YZQdJI6qGvg
Get in touch
[email protected]
29 min

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