In this episode, Cate and Erik review a new study by UKAAN, the United Kingdom's Adult ADHD organization and what it has to say about the challenges of being both intellectually gifted and having ADHD. They talk about their experiences on either end of the "gifted kid" spectrum, and what it's like to grow up with the expectation "gifted" brings, and the expectations we put on ourselves. Cate talks about boredom and self-governance, Erik talks motivation and self-defining, and also remembered to do the patreon song, you're welcome.