Feeling burnt out from running your business at a pace that would make a coffee-fueled squirrel look lazy? I get it—the pressure to “just work harder” can leave even the most motivated entrepreneur hiding under the covers, to-do list in hand.

In this episode, I’m chatting with Rachel Richards (https://www.rachelrichardsfineart.com/), a photographer and filmmaker who learned the hard way that nonstop hustle isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. We're getting honest about what happens when those “just keep grinding” platitudes totally miss the mark—and how tuning into your body’s signals (yep, even those you thought were just a gut feeling) can help you build a business that feels sustainable and sane.

I dig into how Rachel’s routine shifted after a pretty dramatic burnout moment—think panic attacks, endless job hunting, and a big reality check. She breaks down interoception (basically, listening to your body like it’s a wise consultant), her ritual for staying present, why she ditched time-blocking entirely, and how slowness actually improved her work and her life. If you’re tired of pretending every day is a productivity sprint, this conversation might just feel like home.

→ Learn more: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.theordinarybusiness.com

Key Takeaways:

• Honor your own pace by listening to simple cues from your body—sometimes that’s choosing the couch over your desk.

• Communicate your values (like slowness and connection) directly in your offers and client messaging, so your calendar doesn’t run your life.

• Reframe downtime as necessary fuel, not self-sabotage, and recognize when to ask yourself: “Is this rest, or am I avoiding something?”

This podcast is for business owners who are tired of hustle culture and want relatable, honest conversations about running a sustainable business that actually works for their life.

What is it actually like to run a business while living full-time in an RV—and not the Instagram #vanlife version where you’re crushing seven figures from a hammock?

Melissa Mitt (a.k.a. Melissa Mittelstadt; https://www.melissamitt.com/) joins me to chat all things lean business, RV living, and making work fit around real life, not the other way around.

Melissa opens up about ditching the “right way” to schedule calls, why her clients are chill about rescheduling, and how her workday balances actually living in new places without burning out. You’ll get the inside scoop on her favorite tools, what Internet setup you really need for rural business calls, and why testing the RV life is essential before you sell your house in a fit of entrepreneurial rebellion.

→ Learn more: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.theordinarybusiness.com

Key Takeaways:

• Build your schedule around your real habits—not what hustle culture says is “productive.”

• Prep for unpredictable internet and always have a backup plan if your Zoom call turns into a coffee shop adventure.

• Test drive any “big change” (like RV life) before you swap stability for wanderlust—and budget for more than just gas.

This podcast is for business owners who are tired of hustle culture and want relatable, honest conversations about running a sustainable business that actually works for their life.

Ever wondered how on earth you’re supposed to run your business, plan a virtual summit, launch a podcast, and keep your family (and sanity) intact—without a full-blown team or a “just outsource it all!” attitude?

In this episode, I’m sharing the real behind-the-scenes of what happens when you lean into messy momentum (and excitement) instead of waiting for perfect timing or a magic productivity hack. Let’s get honest about what it really takes to juggle ordinary business life with big projects—without falling into the hustle trap or sacrificing what actually matters to you.

I’m breaking down how I managed planning The Ordinary Business Summit, kept up with a full client load, and launched this podcast—all while fiercely protecting most of my boundaries (yes, I even skipped the gym a few times and worked the occasional Friday, but there were zero all-nighters or missed family dinners). I’ll chat about the little tweaks I made (like pausing YouTube and extending client timelines), what it looks like to bend your rules on purpose, and why you don’t need a massive team or “celebrity entrepreneur” energy to do big things in your own ordinary-but-thriving way.

→ Sign up for the summit: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.theordinarybusiness.com

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Key Takeaways:

• Adjust your schedule and boundaries when needed, but only for seasons that matter to you.

• Don’t be afraid to run big projects solo (or with a little support); “ordinary” does not mean “less than.”

• Keep your priorities clear—the pieces you bend matter just as much as the ones you protect.

This podcast is for business owners who are tired of hustle culture and want relatable, honest conversations about running a sustainable business that actually works for their life.

Let’s talk about building a business that fits your actual life—not some calendar packed with hustle and “rise and grind” chants. In this episode, I sit down with Annie Hillman (https://1428financial.com/), and we dig into the not-so-glamorous (but totally real) side of running a business with a young kid at home.

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From juggling bookkeeping with toddler tantrums, to unapologetically choosing slow mornings over rushed school drop-offs, Annie gets right into the nitty-gritty of time-blocking, home rhythms (spoiler: one load of laundry a day counts as a win), clear boundaries, and what happens when something just has to give.

If you’ve ever wondered how “your people” are really making it work—without the million-dollar productivity tools or extra hours magically appearing in your week—this episode is your inside peek.

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→ Grab a replay pass: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://theordinarybusiness.com/tickets

Key Takeaways:

• Build a realistic weekly flow by setting boundaries, time-blocking, and embracing flexibility (even if it doesn’t come naturally).

• Find your own family and home rhythms—what works for others might not work for you, and that’s more than okay.

• Give yourself permission to prioritize, drop the “shoulds”, and let “good enough” win some days—your ordinary business (and sanity) will thank you.

This podcast is for business owners who are tired of hustle culture and want relatable, honest conversations about running a sustainable business that actually works for their life.

Ever feel like email marketing is just a never-ending game of “sell, sell, sell”—and you’d rather eat a raw beetroot (outlawed or not) than blast your list with another hypey pitch? Same.

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That’s why I sat down with Nadine (https://candocontent.com/), a self-confessed automation nerd and mom of three, to talk real-life ways to nudge your subscribers—gently—without feeling like a pushy sales bot or losing your mind in the process. If you’re juggling inbox chaos, business growth, and actual life (snack breaks for humans and automations), you’re in the right spot.

Today’s episode is all about smart, sustainable email strategies that treat your subscribers like humans (not numbers). I ask Nadine how she uses data and “trigger links” to create personal, relevant paths for her audience—without spending her whole life glued to her computer. We get into the messy reality of tweaking funnels, the power of a good subject line (the weirder, the better), and staying true to what actually feels good for you, not what the Instagram gurus are shouting about.

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Key Takeaways:

• Personalize your emails by tracking what subscribers actually click (not just what you wish they’d buy).

• Embrace automation to save your sanity—set up systems once, then improve them as you learn.

• Remember that “gentle nudges” (not pushy hard-sells) can actually increase conversions and make your audience feel seen.

This podcast is for business owners who are tired of hustle culture and want relatable, honest conversations about running a sustainable business that actually works for their life.

Ever wondered what it’s really like to run your business on another continent—and still make it home in time for school pickup?

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In this episode, I chat with Ginny Krauss (https://supportedceo.com/) about juggling life, business, and Bavarian mountain views, all while resisting hustle culture and carving out true downtime (spoiler: “out of office” actually means something in Germany). If you’ve ever felt torn between making clients happy and claiming your own sanity, you’re definitely in the right place.

Ginny gets honest about finding balance as an American entrepreneur living in Munich, navigating time zones, and restructuring her entire work life so evenings are for family—not endless Zoom calls.

We talk through setting boundaries with U.S.-based clients, learning from European work-life philosophies, and how to build a business that fits your real life—not some mythical influencer’s. If you’re all about life on your own terms—with time for snacks, naps, and (actual) vacation—this one's for you.

→ Sign up for the summit: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.theordinarybusiness.com

→ Grab a replay pass: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://theordinarybusiness.com/tickets

Key Takeaways:

• Set clear boundaries around your work hours, even across time zones, so you can be present for life’s big (and small) moments.

• Normalize taking real time off—rest actually fuels better business decisions and creativity.

• Redesign your offers to suit both your season of life and your energy, not just your clients’ preferences.

This podcast is for business owners who are tired of hustle culture and want relatable, honest conversations about running a sustainable business that actually works for their life.

Don't love waking up at 5 a.m. for a workout? That’s why I’m excited to introduce Brionna (https://www.thelawlesslawyer.com/)—someone who ditched the “hustle harder” mantras and built her own rules around time, boundaries, and (yes) making space for movement that actually feels good. If you’ve ever wondered how “ordinary” business owners manage client work, self-care, and maybe even a mid-day walk, this chat is for you.

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In this episode, I dig into how Brionna runs her law firm, The Lawless Lawyer, while keeping movement a must—not an afterthought. You’ll hear about concrete boundaries (no calls before lunch? I’m so in), why walking isn’t just about steps but sanity, and how letting go of the 9–5 mindset can free you up to, well, actually enjoy your life. We talk through routines, guilt (or the lack of it), and ways to make your business serve you—not the other way around.

→ Sign up for the summit: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.theordinarybusiness.com

→ Grab a replay pass: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://theordinarybusiness.com/tickets

Key Takeaways:

• Set meeting boundaries so you have real space for life (and walks that don’t require speed-walking back to your laptop).

• Ditch the old 9–5 autopilot; your business hours should fit your energy and your actual needs.

• Remember movement isn’t just a “bonus”—it’s part of staying sane and keeping your business (and body) going for the long haul.

This podcast is for business owners who are tired of hustle culture and want relatable, honest conversations about running a sustainable business that actually works for their life.

In this episode, I’m sharing the not-so-secret weapon that keeps my sanity intact as a business owner: meal prepping. Before you roll your eyes and picture sad chicken and broccoli, hear me out. I’m digging into how a simple, cozy meal prep routine doesn’t just feed my family—it’s the sneaky foundation for a smoother workday, fewer decisions, and, yes, more time at the splash pad.

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I get real about the exact system my family’s used for a decade (hint: it’s almost embarrassingly ordinary) and how it’s saved my brainpower, work hours, and even helped with my health as a type 1 diabetic. If you’ve ever wondered how other business owners seem to “make it all work” while resisting the burnout recipe, this episode is for you. Plus, if you love a practical hack that actually gives you your evenings back, you’re in the right place.

→ Sign up for the summit: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.theordinarybusiness.com

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Key Takeaways:

• Cut your daily mental load by deciding once a week, not three times a day.

• Batch meal prep to win back precious time for your real priorities—like family, hobbies, or actually unwinding after work.

• Build rhythms (in and out of the kitchen) that protect your energy as a business owner, rather than drain it.

This podcast is for business owners who are tired of hustle culture and want relatable, honest conversations about running a sustainable business that actually works for their life.

Ever wonder how anyone manages to run a business, keep up with family, and handle the unpredictable curveballs life throws—like, say, type 1 diabetes?

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In this episode, I sit down with Jillian (https://jilliandolberry.com/), a business consultant and type 1 diabetic, to talk about what it's really like to juggle business ownership and a chronic health condition. Spoiler: It includes Skittles, secret pockets full of fruit snacks, and those conference snacks you never see coming.

I dig into day-to-day decision fatigue, planning your workday around blood sugar swings, and why just getting dressed for a luncheon can feel like prepping for the apocalypse (will this 98 behave or nah?).

Jillian and I also share what it’s like to navigate business events—what’s in our go bags, who we tell about our diabetes, and the mental load of keeping ourselves functional while building a business that’s actually sustainable. If you’ve ever felt like “balancing it all” is just code for “barely hanging on,” pull up a chair—this episode’s for you.

→ Sign up for the summit: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.theordinarybusiness.com

→ Grab a replay pass: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://theordinarybusiness.com/tickets

Key Takeaways:

• Lower your stress by prepping for your real-life needs—yes, that means snacks on snacks.

• Learn to set your own boundaries (and advocate for yourself) during meetings, events, and daily business chaos.

• Give yourself permission to adapt your work and life around your needs—burnout is real, but so is doing business on your own terms.

This podcast is for business owners who are tired of hustle culture and want relatable, honest conversations about running a sustainable business that actually works for their life.

Taking a vacation doesn't have to mean asking for chaos—or worse, an angry client email at 2 A.M. In this episode, I sit down with Alyssa, a brand and web designer who is as committed to unplugged jungle-lodge living as she is to her thriving design business.

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Together, we swap stories and get real about setting boundaries, prepping clients, and actually clocking out without fear of missing out (or coming home to a disaster zone).

If you’re the kind of business owner who loves travel almost as much as a well-organized inbox, you’ll love this chat. I break down how Alyssa preps her clients (spoiler: it’s not with a fire drill), why she’s okay losing the occasional inquiry in exchange for actual freedom, and how she’s built a business that lets her enjoy life—without hustling on hotel Wi-Fi. Think of this as your permission slip to finally use those vacation days, guilt-free.

→ Sign up for the summit: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.theordinarybusiness.com
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Key Takeaways:

• Communicate time off early and often so clients never feel blindsided (and you never worry about surprise “emergencies”).

• Build in buffer days before and after trips, so you can ease into vacation mode—and back to work—without burnout.

• Accept that missing out on the occasional fast-moving client is a fair trade for actually living your life (and your best vacation selfie).

This podcast is for business owners who are tired of hustle culture and want relatable, honest conversations about running a sustainable business that actually works for their life.