The Other Side of Success

🎧 Episode Summary:

In this powerful episode, Tyler Rutledge sits down with Nashville recording artist, Ironman triathlete, and philanthropist Ryan Kinder to go far beyond the spotlight. From bar gigs in Tuscaloosa to touring with legends like Eric Clapton and John Fogerty, Ryan’s story is one of grit, grief, and growth. They dive into his pivot from baseball to music, the emotional high of performing—and the crushing lows that followed, including alcoholism and the dark side of success. Ryan opens up about therapy, redefining masculinity, and the moment a fan credited one of his songs with saving their life.

This isn’t just a music episode. It’s about identity, mental health, and purpose-driven living. It’s about building something that outlasts applause.

• 🎸 The 20-year grind from Tuscaloosa bars to sharing the stage with Clapton, ZZ Top, and Fogerty

• ⚾ Quitting baseball and choosing a guitar over a glove

• 🧠 Why therapy isn’t weakness—it’s wisdom

• 🥃 Battling alcoholism and finding sobriety through faith and marriage

• 🚴‍♂️ Becoming an Ironman athlete in honor of a friend lost to cancer

• 🧸 How a tornado in Tuscaloosa led to Ryan founding Kinder’s Kids

• 💔 The lyric that kept a fan from ending their life

• 📣 The truth about TikTok fame vs. stage presence

• 💡 Ryan’s evolving definition of success: “Giving Heather the freedom to never work again.”

“I don’t do it because I’m good at it. I do it because someone needs that song.”
“Alcoholics can be the best actors. I was acting through therapy until I broke.”
“Nobody gives a sh*t except your people—so stop living for everybody else.”
“Don’t play to the empty seats.”

• Porter’s Call – Counseling resource for artists

• OnSite Workshops – Mental health intensives

• Kinder’s Kids Charity – Annual toy drive for communities devastated by natural disasters

• Ironman Foundation – Charity partner for race-driven community rebuilding

• Song he wishes he wrote: "I Can’t Make You Love Me” – Bonnie Raitt

• Biggest track he’s released: “Close”

• Most surreal stage moment: Tied between John Fogerty & Billy Gibbons

• Beach or lake? “Wherever Heather wants.”

Instagram: @ryankinder
Spotify & Apple Music: Search “Ryan Kinder”
Kinder’s Kids: @kinderskids

🔥 Key Topics:📍 Notable Quotes:🛠️ Resources & Mentions:🚀 Rapid Fire Favorites:📱 Follow Ryan Kinder:

Keywords

nonprofit, developmental disabilities, community, faith, entrepreneurship, mental health, family support, success, advocacy, inclusion

In this episode of The Other Side of Success, Tyler Rutledge interviews Lindy Williamson Cleveland, founder and executive director of Unless U, a Birmingham-based nonprofit that creates inclusive community experiences for adults with developmental disabilities. Lindy opens up about her brother Jordan—the inspiration behind the mission—and what it took to launch Unless U straight out of college. The conversation explores her faith journey, motherhood, burnout, leadership, and redefining success. From the family dining room to a multi-campus operation, Lindy's story is equal parts raw and inspiring.

• Lindy's advocacy began as a protective younger sister to her brother Jordan, who has Down syndrome.

• Unless U was born from Jordan’s desire to go to college and Lindy's decision to create what didn’t exist.

• Her college faith journey helped her discern a calling that merged purpose and entrepreneurship.

• The early years required long hours, major sacrifices, and support from her husband and parents.

• Lindy defines success as faithfulness, not scale.

• Unless U creates transformation for families—not just the adults it serves.

• Mental health support, including counseling and sabbatical time, is key for sustainable leadership.

• She encourages moms and high-capacity women to draw boundaries and drop the guilt.

• Unless U provides a college-like, joy-filled environment with academics, job training, and social programs.

• Lindy now helps replicate the model nationwide and hopes to reach 500,000 lives through affiliate orgs.

• Empowering Adults with Disabilities: The Story of Unless U

• Faith, Family, and Nonprofit Success with Lindy Cleveland

• "I feel unworthy of it, but I appreciate it."

• "Success means faithfulness."

• "I think it looks different for every family."

00:00 – Introduction to Lindy Williamson Cleveland and Unless U
02:01 – The Spark Behind Unless U
05:50 – Faith and Personal Journey
09:57 – Challenges in Launching Unless U
14:54 – The Impact of Unless U on Families
20:00 – Navigating Motherhood and Career
24:50 – Mental Health and Support Systems
29:57 – Defining Success in Nonprofit Work
34:46 – Growth and Future of Unless U

• 🔗 Website: https://unlessu.org

• 💙 Donate: https://unlessu.org/donate

• 📸 Instagram: @unless_u | @unlessu_scoops

In this power-packed episode of The Other Side of Success, Tyler Rutledge sits down with Michael and Courtney Weaver — the powerhouse couple behind Weaver Sales Academy and The Insurance Buzz Podcast. From sitting in lawn chairs in a sheetrock-covered office during their agency buildout to launching a 7-figure AI coaching venture for insurance pros, their story is one of grit, purpose, and relentless belief in each other.

We go deep on:

• Starting a scratch insurance agency with just $5K and a dream

• Navigating burnout, lost income, and identity crisis

• Marriage lessons that fueled business success

• How shingles, shredded abs, and therapy shaped their evolution

• The moment Michael became "Shredded Jesus"

• Why coaching now drives their passion more than sales ever did

• Their brand-new AI-powered venture that's revolutionizing agency training

• Daily habits, relationship rituals, and their definition of success

💥 Whether you're a business owner, a married entrepreneur, or someone standing at the edge of burnout — this episode will remind you of the power of going all in.

🛠️ Links & Resources:

🌐 Weaver Sales Academy
Website: https://www.weaversa.com
Instagram: @weaver_sales_academy
Free Resources: https://www.weaversa.com/free

🎧 The Insurance Buzz Podcast
Apple Podcasts: Listen on Apple
Spotify: Listen on Spotify

📱 Text Michael Directly:
👉 816-727-7610
Text “AI” to join the waitlist or learn more about their new AI-powered team coaching platform. Limited to 100 agencies in the first rollout phase.

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In this deeply honest and vulnerable conversation, Tyler sits down with Mickenzie Vought, Senior Director of Community at OnSite, co-host of the Living Centered Podcast, and an advocate for mental and emotional health.

They unpack everything from anxiety and panic attacks to the lasting effects of purity culture and spiritual shame. Mickenzie opens up about her early battles with anxiety, how change was often a form of escape, and how therapy, EMDR, and even medication helped her return to herself. Together, they reflect on how their own healing journeys have reshaped their definitions of success, marriage, parenting, and faith.

Whether you're battling anxiety, unraveling religious baggage, or simply trying to show up better for your family — this episode is for you.

• 🧠 Learn more about OnSite: https://onsiteworkshops.com

• 🎙 Listen to the Living Centered Podcast:

  • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1n0hLOvOadLJHINHu4bnl4

  • Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/living-centered-podcast/id1548413489

• 📖 Books Mentioned:

  • Present Over Perfect by Shauna Niequist → Amazon link

  • Atlas of the Heart by Brené Brown → Amazon link

• The emotional weight of purity culture and its effect on adult relationships

• The "two degree shift" philosophy at OnSite

• Mickenzie's experience with panic attacks and mental health medication

• Building family systems that prioritize honesty over perfection

• How to love Jesus without weaponizing shame

• Parenting with emotional intelligence and boundaries

• Instagram: @mickenzievought

• Living Centered Podcast: Spotify | Apple

🔗 Links & Resources:📝 Key Topics Covered:💬 Connect with Mickenzie:

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What happens when you hit your breaking point—not once, but twice—and still keep climbing?

Today on The Other Side of Success, I sit down with David Peterson, founder of Coach P Consulting and father of four, to unpack how he built a debt-free team of 40+, hit the industry's highest honors, and turned his toughest moments into momentum.

In this raw, honest conversation, David opens up about:

• The nine-month review that almost ended his agency career

• His year six burnout and why he disappeared to a cabin in rural Texas

• How he scaled to 7+ businesses without losing his marriage or himself

• Why he doesn’t care about legacy—and what truly drives him instead

• Building culture, delegating with purpose, and why “you are the bottleneck”

This episode is for anyone who’s ever questioned if they’re cut out for this—especially when the world says, “you’re not coachable.”

Follow David:

• 📲 Instagram: @coachp_consulting

• 🌐 Website: www.coachpconsulting.com

• One sanity-saving habit? Exercise.

• Current leadership mentor? His new business coach.

• Favorite resource for his team? Coach P library.

• Paid trip—lake or beach? 30A beach life, all day.

Closing Question:
🧠 What’s your definition of success?

“Being the best version of yourself. If I’m better today than I was yesterday, that’s success.”

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In this emotional and inspiring episode, Tyler sits down with Birmingham culinary icon Benard Tamburello to unpack one of the most jaw-dropping life journeys you’ll ever hear.

From growing up in a small house full of love in Homewood, to surviving an electrocution that killed his father, to getting diagnosed with stage 3 cancer during COVID, Benard opens up about pain, purpose, and the pursuit of joy. He shares how faith, resilience, and food have shaped his story — and why his restaurants aren’t just about the food, but the people they serve.

What you’ll hear in this episode:

• ​ The moment that changed everything: 14,500 volts and a Sunday lunch
• ​ How a $20 hot dog job led to his first restaurant
• ​ Why meeting Brianna changed his life — and faith
• ​ Navigating cancer, business failure, and personal redemption
• ​ The real purpose behind Vecchia and Moss Rock
• ​ His definition of success after losing almost everything

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🌐 Vecchia Website: https://www.vecchiabirmingham.com

📸 Vecchia Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vecchiabham

🌮 Moss Rock Tacos & Tequila: https://www.mossrocktacos.com

📸 Chef Benard: https://www.instagram.com/chefbenard?igsh=MnVmMnJhdWlhcmN5

📺 Catch Benard on WBRC Fox 6 every third Wednesday of the month!

Trigger Warning: This episode includes sensitive content around teen suicide and mental health. Please listen with care.

What do you do when your world stops mid-text?
Scott’s son Jake was 17 when he took his own life—and nothing could’ve prepared him for the pain that followed.

In this episode of The Other Side of Success, Scott opens up about the moment everything changed, the unbearable silence that followed, and the messy, non-linear road of grief and healing. This conversation is unfiltered, emotional, and full of hope for anyone navigating loss.

You’ll hear:
– What most people get wrong about suicide prevention
– The ripple effects grief has on marriage, parenting, and purpose
– Why faith and community matter in the aftermath
– What Scott wants every parent to know about the mental health of their kids

📞 If you or someone you love is struggling, call or text 988 to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline.

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What happens when your identity gets ripped away in an instant?

Dan Marchese was training for the Olympic weightlifting stage when a brutal shoulder injury shattered everything he thought he was. Instead of giving up, he found purpose through pain—becoming a five-time 100-mile ultramarathoner and founder of Infinite Coaching.

In this episode, we talk about how a defining failure can launch you toward your true calling.

🔥 Topics We Cover:

- The injury that ended Dan’s weightlifting career

- How running became his spiritual and mental therapy

- Building Infinite Coaching to help others find purpose

- Identity, faith, and becoming more than what you do

- The discipline of self-auditing your habits

🧠 Quote of the Episode:

“There’s more to running than running. It’s who you become when you keep showing up.”

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In this conversation, Tyler Rutledge interviews Beau Beard, a chiropractor who shares his journey of building a successful clinic with his wife. They discuss the challenges faced in the early years of their business, the unique holistic approach of their clinic, and the importance of community involvement. Beau reflects on his personal experiences with injury and how they shaped his passion for patient empowerment and innovative healthcare practices. The discussion also touches on the interconnectedness of personal and environmental health, emphasizing the need for a comprehensive approach to wellness. In this engaging conversation, Tyler Rutledge and Beau Beard explore the multifaceted relationship between health, movement, and mental well-being. They discuss the importance of being a physician first in rehabilitation, the fine line between self-optimization and obsession, and the critical role of movement throughout life. The discussion also delves into the alarming rise of mental health issues among youth and how physical activity can serve as a remedy. Finally, they reflect on personal definitions of success and the importance of community in fostering health and happiness.

LINKS

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Visit The FARM's Website

Dr. Beau's Book on Amazon

Dr. Beau's TEDx Birmingham talk

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In this heartfelt conversation, Peggy Borland Evans joins our host, Tyler Rutledge, as she shares her journey of resilience and faith after the loss of her husband, Ken Borland, who served in the U.S. Air Force and tragically died during the 2010 earthquake in Haiti. Peggy reflects on the challenges of navigating grief, the importance of community and faith, and how she has built a new life for herself and her children. Through fitness and support from friends and family, Peggy emphasizes the power of surrendering to God's will and finding hope amid adversity.

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