The Ownership Game with Gary Montalvo

The Ownership Game with Gary Montalvo

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  • Leadership Starts with You: Building a Legacy That Lasts – Christian Fischer

    What if your greatest legacy isn’t what you leave behind — but how you live right now?

    In this episode of The Ownership Game, I sit down with Christian Fischer, a values-driven leader, entrepreneur, and father who’s on a mission to help people build legacies rooted in purpose, service, and self-awareness.

    This isn’t your typical leadership talk. Christian opens up about the habits, mindsets, and daily decisions that have shaped how he leads in business, in family, and in faith. From overcoming identity struggles to redefining success through service, this conversation is packed with wisdom that challenges the hustle-for-worth narrative — and invites you to slow down and lead with integrity.

    If you're an entrepreneur, parent, or high-performer who feels called to something deeper, this one’s for you.

     

    In this episode, we discuss:

    • Why legacy starts long before you leave anything behind
    • Leading from identity, not insecurity
    • The difference between calling and ego
    • Building habits that reflect your values — not just your goals
    • Leading as a parent and partner with intentionality
    • How to redefine masculinity through vulnerability and faith
    • The power of pausing to reflect, redirect, and realign

     

    Chapters:

    00:00 Welcome & Intro: Leadership Is Personal

    03:20 Meet Christian Fischer: Business, Family, and Faith

    06:45 From Confusion to Calling: Identity Work in Leadership

    10:10 Redefining Success: It's Not About Titles

    14:30 Legacy as a Daily Practice

    19:00 How Christian Leads at Home and in Business

    23:40 Habits, Anchors, and Rhythms That Build Character

    28:55 Masculinity, Faith & Leading Through Humility

    33:10 Learning to Slow Down to Speed Up

    38:40 What True Ownership Looks Like

    42:30 Christian’s Legacy Vision

    46:00 Final Reflections + Invitation to Lead from Within

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    Connect with Christian:

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/christianjfischer/ 

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DisruptiveChefCommunity 

    LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/christianjfischer 

    Website: https://www.christianjfischer.com/ 

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    58 min
  • Ownership in the Age of AI: Leading Yourself Through the Revolution – Marnie Wills

    What if the biggest risk in the Age of AI… is sitting on the sidelines?

    In this episode of The Ownership Game, host Gary Montalvo sits down with AI Strategist and educator Marnie Wills for an honest, insightful conversation on how to lead yourself (and your business) through the most disruptive technological revolution of our time.

    If AI feels intimidating, overwhelming, or like “something for the tech people,” this conversation is going to flip that script.

    Marnie, a self-proclaimed non-techie with an athlete’s mindset, shares how she became her own Chief AI Officer, and how she now helps everyday entrepreneurs and creatives do the same — without needing to code, know the jargon, or “keep up” with every new tool.

    This episode is all about mindset, experimentation, and reclaiming your agency in an accelerating world. Whether you're already using AI tools in your business or you’ve been avoiding it altogether, you'll walk away feeling clearer, more empowered, and ready to play the long game.

     

    In this episode, we discuss:

    • Why AI is not just about tech — it’s about how you think
    • The real meaning of becoming your own Chief AI Officer
    • How Marnie 10X’d her business using ChatGPT, Claude, and custom GPTs
    • How to avoid the trap of “doing AI right” and just get started
    • How AI can unlock confidence, creativity, and strategy
    • What it means to protect your IP and brand in the age of AI
    • Building your own branded AI tools + agents — and why it matters
    • How to make AI your thinking partner and not just a copy machine 
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      Chapters:

      00:00 Welcome: The AI Revolution Is Already Here

      03:00 Marnie’s Story: From Blackberry Loyalist to AI Strategist

      06:45 How AI 10X’d Her Business (and Helped Her Exit One)

      09:30 Developing an AI-First Mindset

      13:00 Why You Don’t Need to Be “Techy” to Lead with AI

      15:50 From Overwhelm to Ownership: Pick One Tool and Start

      21:15 Becoming Your Own Chief AI Officer

      26:00 Building Trust with AI Tools as a Creative/Entrepreneur

      31:40 Using AI for Coaching, Strategy, and Business Ops

      35:00 Launching Your Own AI Platform (and Owning Your Data)

      40:30 How to Protect Your Intellectual Property

      45:00 The Coaching Industry’s AI Disruption (And Opportunity)

      49:00 Marnie’s Final Message: Confidence Through Collaboration

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      Connect with Marnie:

      Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/businesswithai_strategist/ 

      Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/businesswithaistrategist 

      LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marnie-wills-entrepreneur 

      Website: www.businesswithaistrategist.com 

      Onesheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uSdbDmSdjh5Sa_v5Htp-MbD2EIn_bxDH/view?usp=sharing 

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        53 min
      • Building a Life That Holds All of You with The Inspiration Engineer, Cauveé

        What if success isn’t about doing more, but becoming more of who you already are?

        In this episode of The Ownership Game, Gary Montalvo sits down with Cauveé (Kaw-Vay), also known as Cauvee, and widely recognized as The Inspiration Engineer®, to talk about what it means to build a life that doesn’t just look good, but feels aligned on every level.

        Cauveé has helped influencers, entrepreneurs, and leaders take off the mask, reconnect with their truth, and create a reality that honors their full, authentic self. In this episode, he opens up about his own transformation, from living in survival mode to stepping into purpose-driven leadership.

        This conversation is raw, reflective, and filled with frameworks you can use to shift your energy, upgrade your environment, and finally start living a life that holds all of you.

         

        In this episode, we discuss:

        • The difference between living to survive vs. living to express
        • What it takes to rewire your mindset after trauma and burnout
        • How to stop building for the algorithm and start building for your soul
        • Why presence > performance for entrepreneurs and creators
        • Building a lifestyle that’s sustainable, soulful, and scalable
        • Tuning into your own “divine algorithm”
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          Chapters: 

          00:00  Intro: The Inspiration Engineer Joins the Game

          02:30  From Trauma to Transformation: Cauveé’s Origin Story

          06:10  Why Achievement Can’t Heal Abandonment

          09:50  Masculinity, Vulnerability & the Power of Softness

          13:15  The Energy Audit: Realigning Your Time, People & Space

          18:00  Authenticity vs. Performative Success in the Digital Age

          23:40  Your Divine Algorithm: Operating From Inner Truth

          29:20  The Cost of Living Disconnected from Purpose

          33:50  Presence, Peace, and the Art of Letting Go

          39:00  Designing a Life That Holds All of You

          44:15  Cauveé’s Message to Creators and Leaders Ready to Evolve

          47:30  Closing Reflections: Who Are You Without the Mask?

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          Connect with Cauveé:

          Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cauvee

          Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/cauvee

          LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cauvee

          Website:  inspirationengineer.com 

          Threads: https://www.threads.net/@cauvee

          Onesheet: https://docs.google.com/document/d/15QC1tuF2oRVynvwS1Zqb_ocvzndq-oHhewK2pmtJpto/edit?tab=t.0 

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            55 min
          • When Success Becomes Your Cage: The Journey to Breaking Free from Expectations - Betsy Pepine

            What if the life you built — the one that looks perfect on paper — feels like a prison behind the scenes?

            In this deeply honest conversation on The Ownership Game, Gary Montalvo sits down with Betsy Pepine, a successful real estate entrepreneur and author, who shares her story of what happens when outward success clashes with inner fulfillment.

            Betsy opens up about the moment she realized she was living inside “boxes” built by other people’s expectations — and the courageous journey she took to break free, rewrite her story, and define success on her own terms.

            If you’ve ever found yourself chasing achievement but feeling empty, questioning the stories you’ve inherited, or wondering how to live a more authentic life — this episode of The Ownership Game is for you.

             

            In this episode, we discuss:

            • The hidden cost of the hustle culture
            • How “boxes” keep us stuck in invisible cages
            • The fear of letting go of status, identity, or financial security
            • Practices for tuning in, asking better questions, and creating real freedom
            • How to redefine your relationship with success and failure
            • Why unlearning old programming is the key to authentic leadership
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              Chapters: 

              00:00 Introduction: When the Hustle Becomes the Cage

              02:30 Meet Betsy Pepine: Success on Paper, Disconnection Inside

              06:00 The First Signs: Listening to the Body and Inner Voice

              09:30 Tools for Uncovering the Truth: Therapy, Meditation & More

              14:45 Defining and Spotting the “Boxes” You Live In

              19:20 Social and Cultural Boxes: Gender, Money & Status

              25:00 The Ego Death of Changing Careers and Identities

              31:30 Framework: Identifying Your Boxes and Facing the Fears

              36:50 Betsy’s Book and How It Can Help Others

              40:10 Powerful Takeaways: Joy, Impact, and Authenticity

              46:30 Closing Reflections: Remembering Who You Really Are

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              Connect with Betsy:

              Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betsypepine/ 

              Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/betsypepine

              LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/betsypepine/

              Website: https://www.betsypepine.com/

              YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BetsyPepine 

              Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@gainesvillerealtor 

               

              Grab Betsy’s book Breaking Free from the Boxes: https://www.amazon.com/Breaking-Boxes-Dismantling-Metaphorical-That/dp/1636802842/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr= 

              Join Betsy’s new companion course coming soon!

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                50 min
              • Breaking the Cycle of Self-Sabotage – Sara Gilbert

                Why do we get stuck in self-sabotaging patterns — even when we know exactly what to do? 

                In this powerful episode of The Ownership Game, Gary sits down with mindset and strategy coach Sara Gilbert to unpack the invisible patterns that keep entrepreneurs, leaders, and high-achievers stuck in the cycle of “I know what to do, but I’m not doing it.”

                Sara reveals how our identity, emotions, and the stories we tell ourselves create hidden limits on our growth. Together, they break down how to spot these patterns, rewire your language, and shift from fear-driven action to leadership-driven alignment.

                If you’ve ever felt trapped by procrastination, perfectionism, or over-preparation — this episode will show you how to break free.

                 

                In this episode, we discuss:

                 

                • Identity anchors behavior. What you say after “I am” shapes what you’ll do — or avoid.
                • Safety drives sabotage. Often we don’t procrastinate out of laziness, but to protect a version of ourselves we’ve learned to keep safe.
                • Language is power. The stories you repeat become your reality. Awareness and new questions are the key to change.
                • Slowing down speeds you up. Reflection and intentional language create sustainable, aligned action.


                • Chapters: 

                  00:00 The Power of “I Am” Statements: How Identity Shapes Behavior

                  02:30 Sara’s Journey: From Business Strategy to Deep Mindset Work

                  05:50 Why “Be-Do-Have” is the Real Game Changer for Entrepreneurs

                  08:00 The Hidden Role of Emotions: Why Safety Sabotages Growth

                  14:00 The Familiarity Zone: Why We Stay in Patterns that Don’t Serve Us

                  19:00 Language as a Tool: How to Rewrite Your Stories

                  25:00 The Right Questions vs. The Wrong Questions: Moving from Stuck to Free

                  33:00 Why Slowing Down Helps You Speed Up

                  42:00 Self-Awareness, Self-Honesty, Self-Leadership: A New Model for Change

                  51:00 Why Ownership Over Your Stories is Non-Negotiable

                  54:00 Final Thoughts: Playing the Ownership Game in Life and Business

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                  Connect with Sara:

                  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/saragilbertstrategist/

                  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100015061414304

                  Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/saragilbert/

                  Website: https://saragilbert.coach/ 

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                    58 min
                  • It’s Not a Calendar Problem, It’s a You Problem - Dr. Jaime G. Raygoza

                    Is burnout just a scheduling issue — or is it the story you’re telling yourself?

                    In this powerful episode of The Ownership Game, Gary Montalvo sits down with Dr. Jaime G. Raygoza, organizational psychologist, coach, and burnout expert, to dismantle the myth that overwork is just about poor time management. Dr. Jaime shares his raw, near-fatal story of hustle culture gone too far — and the hard-earned wisdom he now uses to help entrepreneurs, leaders, and high-achievers break the cycle of burnout.

                    If you’ve ever felt like the only way to succeed is to do more, push harder, or ignore what your body is screaming at you — this conversation is your permission slip to choose a wiser path.

                     

                    In this episode, we discuss:

                    • Why your hustle might be rooted in trauma or an old identity story
                    • The hidden physical symptoms your body uses to warn you about burnout
                    • How stress kills creativity and long-term business growth
                    • Simple, science-backed daily rituals to reset your nervous system (hello, laughter yoga!)
                    • How to plan for success as an entrepreneur in the infinite game
                    •  

                      Chapters: 

                      00:00  Introduction: The Infinite vs. Finite Game

                      03:00  Meet Dr. Jaime: From 120-Hour Weeks to Near Death

                      10:00  What Drives Unchecked Hustle? Proving Your Worth

                      18:00  Signs You’re Burnt Out (Your Body Knows First)

                      24:00  Why Entrepreneurs Ignore Burnout (and Pay the Price)

                      31:00  How Burnout Limits Innovation & Leadership

                      36:00  Practical Reset Tools: Body Scans, Environment Shifts & Laughter Yoga

                      44:00  How to Manage Stress When You Can’t Change Your Circumstances

                      48:00  The Gift Inside the Breakdown: Enjoying the Process

                      52:00  Outro: Stop Proving, Start Living

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                      Connect with Dr. Jaime:

                      Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rainbowcareercoaching


                      Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100089604794211 

                      Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaime-gabriel-raygoza/ 

                      Website: http://www.rainbowcareercoaching.com/ 

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                        53 min
                      • Resilience and Hope: The Story Behind a Globally Ranked Podcast - Lesley-Anne Stone

                        What does it look like to say yes to your inner nudge—even when it's terrifying?

                        In this episode of The Ownership Game, Gary sits down with longtime friend and powerhouse marketing executive turned podcast host, Lesley-Anne Stone. After facing the life-altering challenge of parenting a child with severe food allergies, Lesley-Anne launched the globally ranked podcast Resilience and Hope, giving voice to the raw, emotional, and empowering stories that often go untold in the parenting and health world.

                        She opens up about how grief, intuition, and a deep need for authenticity fueled her unexpected leap into podcasting—and how that leap has impacted families around the world. Whether you’ve got an idea on the backburner or you’re in the thick of building something new, this episode is a masterclass in trusting your instincts, creating with purpose, and leading with your story.

                         

                        In this episode, we discuss:

                        • How to transform personal pain into powerful purpose
                        • What it takes to launch a globally ranked podcast
                        • The role of intuition in making bold creative moves
                        • Why authenticity is the currency of connection
                        • How to overcome fear and take the first step
                        • What parents of food allergy kids need to hear most
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                          Chapters: 

                          0:00 A Mother’s Mission Begins

                          2:00 Saying Yes to the Inner Nudge

                          6:30 From Branding Executive to Podcast Host

                          11:45 How a Doctor’s Invitation Sparked It All

                          14:00 The Power of Moving Before You’re Ready

                          17:30 Grief, Growth, and the Gift of Collaboration

                          22:00 Building a Podcast That’s Deeply Personal

                          27:00 The Risk and Reward of Radical Honesty

                          33:00 Inside the Groundbreaking Food Allergy Program

                          38:00 What It Really Takes to Get to Remission

                          44:00 Making Hope Accessible to Families Everywhere

                          48:00 Season Two, Possibility, and the Next Chapter

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                          Connect with Lesley-Anne:

                          Instagram: @resilienceandhopepodcast

                          Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesleyannestone/

                          Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@resilienceandhopepodcast

                          Website: https://linktr.ee/resilienceandhopepodcast 

                          Food Allergy Institute: www.foodallergyinstitute.com

                          Resilience And Hope: A Food Allergy Podcast is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and YouTube. Links below!

                          Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/resilience-hope-a-food-allergy-podcast/id1797657949 

                          Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3uQ1UHk9k0oBaJpKE310YT 

                          Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@ResilienceandHopePodcast/shorts 

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                            55 min
                          • Forged by Pressure: Ron Rubin on Character, Discipline, and Quiet Leadership

                            What happens when life doesn't hand you safety—but you choose strength instead?

                            In this powerful episode of The Ownership Game, Gary sits down with Ron Rubin, a successful entrepreneur and financial advisor whose character was literally forged by pressure. From facing antisemitism and domestic abuse in his youth to building a thriving business grounded in integrity, Ron shares how adversity shaped his relentless discipline, his unshakable values, and his quiet—but potent—leadership style.

                            This isn’t a story about surviving the past. It’s a masterclass in transforming it.

                            Whether you’re an entrepreneur, a leader, or someone looking to rebuild from the inside out—this is the episode you didn’t know you needed.

                             

                            In this episode, we discuss:

                            • How childhood adversity created the conditions for Ron’s inner grit
                            • The powerful mindset behind turning trauma into fuel for success
                            • Why your habits determine your destiny more than your circumstances
                            • A rare look at character-driven leadership in financial services
                            • The three things Ron writes down every day to keep him focused
                            • What it looks like to lead with integrity—even when it costs you

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                              Chapters:

                              00:00 Life on High Alert: Ron’s early years facing violence at home and school

                              03:30 Turning Pain into Purpose: The mindset shift that defined his life

                              07:40 Education as a Lifeline: The immigrant work ethic and academic ambition

                              13:00 Resilience, Not Reaction: When bullying teaches self-worth

                              19:00 Witnessing a Parent’s Downfall: The impact of addiction on identity

                              25:00 Forging a Career: The bold early years of Ron’s financial services journey

                              27:15 Lessons from 120 Mentors: What top performers all have in common

                              30:00 Radical Transparency in Business: Defining values in a shady industry

                              34:30 Taking Ownership in Crisis: A major betrayal and how Ron handled it

                              39:50 Fortune Favors the Bold: Risking it all to start his own firm

                              42:00 Legacy and Mentorship: Serving future generations with integrity

                              50:00 The Exit Plan: Why Ron sold his company—and what comes next

                              53:00 Daily Discipline: Ron’s personal system for staying aligned

                              56:00 Final Takeaway: You’re not what you survived—you’re who you become

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                                58 min
                              • Judgment: The Silent Killer of Self-Worth - Dawn Speaks

                                Judgment is sneaky—it wears the disguise of perfectionism, people-pleasing, and hustle. And the most dangerous part? We often don’t even realize it’s there. 

                                In this episode of The Ownership Game, Gary Montalvo is joined by transformational coach and leadership expert Dawn Speaks to explore how judgment silently corrodes self-worth, derails potential, and keeps us from showing up fully in our lives.

                                Together, they unpack how inherited beliefs, cultural conditioning, and internalized voices from the past shape our behavior and identity. You'll learn how judgment isn't just a thought—it’s an operating system. But the good news? It can be dismantled.

                                If you've ever performed strength while struggling, avoided action because you feared being “too much,” or secretly believed success needs to be earned through suffering—this conversation is your invitation to break free.

                                 

                                In this episode, we discuss:

                                • Judgment is identity-shaping. Most of our limiting beliefs stem from old stories that we've never stopped to question.
                                • High performers aren’t immune. Accomplishment doesn’t mean you’ve outrun judgment—it often means it’s gotten sneakier.
                                • Inherited beliefs aren’t yours. Much of what we think is “just who I am” is actually borrowed from family, culture, or trauma.
                                • Working hard ≠ worthiness. Hustle can be a trauma response in disguise.
                                • Transformation starts with awareness. You can’t dismantle what you don’t see.
                                •  

                                  Chapters:

                                  00:00 Opening Reflections: The voice in your head isn't your own

                                  03:20 Introducing Dawn Speaks: A powerful voice in leadership and transformation

                                  08:00 Coaching Entrepreneurs: Fear, capacity, and breaking internal ceilings

                                  13:30 The Real Voice of Judgment: Would you let someone else talk to you that way?

                                  18:40 The Hustle Trap: How “working hard” can be a mask for unworthiness

                                  24:00 Presence vs. Productivity: Why slowing down can move you forward

                                  27:30 Money Shame & Inherited Stories: Judgment’s grip on our financial identity

                                  33:00 Discovery vs. Defensiveness: Fighting for your limitations

                                  38:00 Boundaries, Bravery & Saying “No”: Empowerment without apology

                                  46:00 Invitation to the Event: Beyond Circumstances—July 26th in NYC

                                  55:00 Final Thoughts: Bringing discernment with compassion

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                                  Connect with Dawn:

                                  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dspeaksleo/ 

                                  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dawn.speaks.77

                                  Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dawnspeaks/

                                  Please Note: Beyond Circumstances: Dawn and Gary's one-day training in NYC has been rescheduled to October 11th. https://beyondcircumstancesnyc.com/

                                   

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                                    58 min
                                  • Escaping a High-Control Religious System: Michelle Moffitt on Healing, Power & Voice

                                     What happens when a smart, capable woman gets trapped in a high-control religious system that strips her of her identity, voice, and power? In this powerful episode of The Ownership Game, host Gary Montalvo sits down with psychotherapist, leadership coach, and author Michelle Moffitt. For 30 years, Michelle was immersed in a patriarchal religious system that shaped every part of her life—from her marriage to her career to her voice.

                                    But this is more than a story about faith or religion—it’s about trauma, belonging, people-pleasing, and the cost of abandoning your authenticity for acceptance. Michelle’s story is raw, honest, and a wake-up call for anyone questioning the systems they're a part of.

                                    If you've ever felt stuck in a life you didn't consciously choose—or found yourself judging someone who is—this conversation will challenge and inspire you. 

                                     

                                    In this episode, we discuss:

                                    • How trauma and the need for safety can lead us into high-control systems—even when we come from empowered backgrounds
                                    • The subtle, progressive tactics of control: love-bombing, isolation, gaslighting, and indoctrination
                                    • The psychological toll of spiritual and emotional abuse—and how it erodes self-trust
                                    • Why smart, intuitive, high-functioning people often stay in toxic systems far longer than they think they will
                                    • The power of the Enneagram, therapy, and coaching in rebuilding identity and voice after leaving a controlling environment
                                    • What it means to forgive yourself, reclaim your life, and move forward without judgment


                                    • Chapters:

                                      00:00 Intro Clip: Michelle on Gaslighting in Religious Systems

                                      01:16 Welcome to The Ownership Game

                                      02:10 What Are High-Control Systems & Why Smart People Get Trapped

                                      03:30 Introducing Michelle Moffitt: Therapist, Coach, Author

                                      04:00 Michelle’s Progressive Upbringing vs. The System She Entered

                                      06:00 Trauma, Date Rape & the Search for Safety

                                      08:00 Entering a Patriarchal Religious System

                                      10:00 Early Red Flags, Marriage, and Loss of Voice

                                      13:00 Why We Stay: Belonging, Love-Bombing & Indoctrination

                                      16:00 Understanding Narcissism, Gaslighting & Control

                                      20:00 The Turning Point: Realizing Something Was Deeply Wrong

                                      23:00 Asking for Help from the Church—and Being Told to Repent

                                      27:00 Being Cast Out, Losing Everything & Moving Back to Seattle

                                      31:00 Rebuilding Life From Scratch

                                      34:00 Healing the Body from Hypervigilance

                                      36:00 Becoming a Therapist: Awakening Through Education

                                      39:00 Enneagram, Coaching, and Newfound Agency

                                      45:00 Final Reflections on Motivation, Forgiveness & Self-Compassion

                                      54:00 Advice for Others Escaping Toxic Systems

                                      58:00 Closing Thoughts from Gary: Healing Begins with Honoring Your Truth 

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                                      Connect with Michelle:

                                      Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/michellemoffittcoach/ 

                                      Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/michelle.rogers.520357/https://www.facebook.com/michelle.rogers.520357/

                                      Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michellemoffittcoach/ 

                                      Website: https://michellemoffitt.com/ 

                                      Michelle would like to promote: https://www.amazon.com/Cracked-Open-Journey-Resilient-Independent-ebook/dp/B0DCCFCT5D/ref=sr_1_1?crid=23VQZJN1V6JKI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.PYMyl6cA-9ODB4h2mORSfd8EhDwCJkHGACcGpF5ZclQ-vzl95zWIMuZx1hKAYAKFMHfK-IgdR0ZXAawSD0TZ1g.Nn3Ig2eHPMANvfOBDJEX_-u1u-j6IefuFeCYLDWvwsE&dib_tag=se&keywords=michelle+moffitt+cracked&qid=1736628528&sprefix=%2Caps%2C141&sr=8-1 

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