The People Around Us

At the end of recording a fantastic yarn with Cheryl about her life as per Part A & B of this 13th episode, Cheryl took over as podcast host on a whim turning the tables on Dave, Gary & Darren !! 

It wasn't planned nor did they know what was coming their way but they ran with it anyway. Cheryl asked the boys a few fantastic questions around Totems, what they would ask any famous Indigenous person of their choice if they could, if they are happy and what people need to do to keep that spark in life alight. 

It's funny, thought provoking, deep at times and shows yet another side of Professor Cheryl Kickett-Tucker being the amazing human being that she is. Enjoy !

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Acknowledgments

Jon Worthy's song "It comes with time"
Jean-Marc Michaud's song "Happy Like a Duck"
Musictown song "Fun Times Together" (Pixaboy)


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NOTE: Please listen to Part A of Cheryl's story before Part B to fully understand and enjoy this episode.

Cheryl Kickett-Tucker is a highly respected Wadjuk Noongar Traditional Owner and renowned Indigenous leader, mother of 3,  youth basketball coach, public speaker, elite athlete, research academic, community development practitioner and author.  

She really is one of a kind.

Everything she does is for others and her community with a fierce focus on young children and teenagers. She has worked with Australian Aboriginal people all her life in the fields of education, sport and health and is very passionate about using her knowledge and experience to make a real difference to the lives of Aboriginal children and their families.  

Having said that, she is also starting to realise life is short and that she also needs to 'create some elbow room' for herself a bit more too. But never to the detriment of others as that's just who she is.

In 2020 she was the only West Australian woman appointed to a group that was set to co-design the 'Indigenous Voice to Parliament' for which the importance for Australia's future is profound.

There are too many accolades and achievements to name here so best to check out the "About me" section of  www.koya.com.au to see all of them as it's VERY impressive!

One of Cheryl's greatest achievements though is where she has developed and is the founding Director along with her Father Alan Kickett originally called 'Kaat, Koort and Hoopz' which means 'head, heart and basketball' in words from the Ballardong dialect of the Noongar people of the Wheatbelt region. It has now morphed into "Koordoormitj Institute Grassroots Basketball Program and is a basketball lifestyle program for 4-16 year old children who have potential but limited opportunities to enhance their wellbeing providing that sense of belonging we always talk about in all our episodes. 

Cheryl is a very, very special lady . Enjoy ! 

Thanks & acknowledgments to ABC,  Edith Cowan University, Koya.org.au

NOTE: Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander viewers are warned that the following podcast mention deceased persons.

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Produced & edited by Darren Payne

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Acknowledgments

Jon Worthy's song "It comes with time"
Jean-Marc Michaud's song "Happy Like a Duck"
Musictown song "Fun Times Together" (Pixaboy)


Contact

If you would like to contact us to provide feedback, advertise, become a sponsor, suggest a guest OR have a chat about how you might be able to create 'Some Elbow Room' for yourself, please do so to Darren Payne via email [email protected]

Cheryl Kickett-Tucker is a highly respected Wadjuk Noongar Traditional Owner and renowned Indigenous leader, mother of 3,  youth basketball coach, public speaker, elite athlete, research academic, community development practitioner and author.  

She really is one of a kind.

Everything she does is for others and her community with a fierce focus on young children and teenagers. She has worked with Australian Aboriginal people all her life in the fields of education, sport and health and is very passionate about using her knowledge and experience to make a real difference to the lives of Aboriginal children and their families.  

Having said that, she is also starting to realise life is short and that she also needs to 'create some elbow room' for herself a bit more too. But never to the detriment of others as that's just who she is.

In 2020 she was the only West Australian woman appointed to a group that was set to co-design the 'Indigenous Voice to Parliament' for which the importance for Australia's future is profound.

There are too many accolades and achievements to name here so best to check out Cheryl Kickett-Tucker - Wikipedia to see all of them as it's VERY impressive!

One of Cheryl's greatest achievements though is where she has developed and is the founding Director along with her Father Alan Kickett originally called 'Kaat, Koort and Hoopz' which means 'head, heart and basketball' in words from the Ballardong dialect of the Noongar people of the Wheatbelt region. It has now morphed into "Koordoormitj Institute Grassroots Basketball Program and is a basketball lifestyle program for 4-16 year old children who have potential but limited opportunities to enhance their wellbeing providing that sense of belonging we always talk about in all our episodes. 

Cheryl is a very, very special lady . Enjoy ! 

Thanks & acknowledgments to ABC,  Edith Cowan University, Koya.org.au

NOTE: Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander viewers are warned that the following podcast mention deceased persons.

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Produced & edited by Darren Payne

Socials

Instagram: @someelbowroompodcast
Facebook: someelbowroompodcast
Twitter: @somelbowrmpod

Acknowledgments

Jon Worthy's song "It comes with time"
Jean-Marc Michaud's song "Happy Like a Duck"
Musictown song "Fun Times Together" (Pixaboy)


Contact

If you would like to contact us to provide feedback, advertise, become a sponsor, suggest a guest OR have a chat about how you might be able to create 'Some Elbow Room' for yourself, please do so to Darren Payne via email [email protected]

Further to Part A "The Humble High Achiever" and Part B "Hey Kids, We're Moving to New York" this episode is made up of a few light hearted questions that we recorded after the main episode about how Paul thinks about a few things in life. 

It's a bit of fun so please enjoy !


Produced & Edited by Darren Payne

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Acknowledgments

Jon Worthy's song "It comes with time"
Jean-Marc Michaud's song "Happy Like a Duck"
Musictown song "Fun Times Together" (Pixaboy)


Contact

If you would like to contact us to provide feedback, advertise, become a sponsor, suggest a guest OR have a chat about how you might be able to create 'Some Elbow Room' for yourself, please do so to Darren Payne via email [email protected]

NOTE: This episode is Part B of "The Humble High Achiever - Paul Donaldson" so please listen to that first to fully enjoy this episode.

On the surface, having an opportunity to live in New York seems like an amazing opportunity - which it so is -  and something most people can only dream of.  The reality of doing something like that though can only be experienced fully by making the bold move in the first place especially with young children. However, when you decide to do something out of your comfort zone, there are no guarantees it's going to be everything you hoped for either!

In this episode we have a chat to Paul Donaldson's wife Amanda and his children Luca & Milla about their experience moving to New York thanks to Paul's work (See Part A episode). As time goes on, there is no doubt they will all pinch themselves that they were able to do so thanks to how capable Paul is and the opportunities his work provides both himself and his family.  However, the culture shock  was underestimated  - especially during Covid in a place that had the highest deaths per capita in the world while they were there  -  and the ability to cope with the situation was very much different for each of them. Not to mention being there during the madness of Donald Trump as President!!

The best part about the Donaldson's though is that they are never afraid of saying "yes" to things to try them out and see what happens. So on balance the perspective they gained and experiences they had by getting uncomfortable is something they can take through the rest of their lives. They also now know what they like and don't like as a family and also understand one another a lot better.  

A fantastic outcome on balance and the lessons for their children at such a young age is exactly what our podcast is about. Just say "yes" to opportunities and you never know what might happen!

Produced & Edited by Darren Payne

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Acknowledgments

Jon Worthy's song "It comes with time"
Jean-Marc Michaud's song "Happy Like a Duck"
Musictown song "Fun Times Together" (Pixaboy)


Contact

If you would like to contact us to provide feedback, advertise, become a sponsor, suggest a guest OR have a chat about how you might be able to create 'Some Elbow Room' for yourself, please do so to Darren Payne via email [email protected]

Paul Donaldson fits a lot into his life and is the epitome of what it means to be curious & optimistic. He is borderline obsessed with exploring as many things in life as possible while also still working hard which, in his case, is in very high level jobs. However, one of his best traits is that he has no interest in having a 'bucket list' to tick off later on in life as his mantra is say yes and do it now. 

Our regular listeners will know that we absolutely love that !!

Paul is one of the most capable people we have ever met and holds his own around anyone regardless who they are with a real understated yet commanding presence. He has the ability to converse with Secretaries of State in the same day as fishing or surfing with his mates or kids as he loves nothing more than being with his family and many friends.

He was a high achiever as a teenager. He did well at school, worked his way onto an AFL list at Collingwood and performed at a state level for swimming. He was the guy every bloke wanted to be friends with and the girls wanted to be with! 

A few years after finishing high school, he finally decided to properly focus on his Uni degree with a fierce focus on his career around the corner. Unsurprisingly, he subsequently ended up with the highest mark in the history of Melbourne University.

After landing senior management level job's in Marketing for Cadbury's and CUB, Paul and his family moved to New York for an amazing  job opportunity as 'Head of Global Strategy' for the biggest beer company in the world. He had worked his entire life for such an opportunity so needless to say they were incredibly excited. This episode explores what it's like to be in such a role and also what it was like being there during the initial outbreak of Covid where they were burying bodies in Central Park, through to two elections around the madness of Donald Trump was President. 

Paul's humbleness is second to none as are his capabilities in life and we were very lucky to have a few hours with him and his family in their home. Enjoy !

Produced & Edited by Darren Payne

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Acknowledgments

Jon Worthy's song "It comes with time"
Jean-Marc Michaud's song "Happy Like a Duck"
Musictown song "Fun Times Together" (Pixaboy)


Contact

If you would like to contact us to provide feedback, advertise, become a sponsor, suggest a guest OR have a chat about how you might be able to create 'Some Elbow Room' for yourself, please do so to Darren Payne via email [email protected]

Richard Osborne is a humble free spirit who lives' in the present.

Outside of his friends and family, he is best known for his incredible AFL playing career of 283 games and 574 goals at 4 different clubs. Simply fantastic player who also represented Victoria in 'State of Origin' Football 8 times in what can only be described as a stellar career.  

From a non - football playing career perspective he's worked in sales over a number of different industries, in the Media for Channel 7, helped run a friends Importing business out of Vietnam and currently works in the Oil & Gas industry travelling from Melbourne to Perth on a fortnightly basis to work on a ship in the middle of the ocean!

Like all of us, "Ozzie" has faced adversity through is life and thanks his self made positive attitude to helping him get through these times. During his football career, his adversity primarily come through injury and some of them significant too! For example a nasty knee reconstruction and a sickening concussion thanks to a head clash with a team mate while playing for the Sydney Swans. Only a few years ago he found out that he actually died for a short time only to come back a few weeks later and kick 10 goals . Pretty scary and equally amazing!!

Richard has an incredibly positive, laid back, uncomplicated attitude to life taking responsibility for his own happiness which has been enhanced thanks to his learnings and passion of Psychology. He is constantly aware of things that have a negative impact on his happiness and very self aware of the compatibility between his personality and the work he is doing. Everything this podcast is all about!!

It's a great listen and we hope you enjoy !! 

Produced & Edited by Darren Payne and dedicated to Ray, Pauline & Dean Paton

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Acknowledgments

Jon Worthy's song "It comes with time"
Jean-Marc Michaud's song "Happy Like a Duck"
Musictown song "Fun Times Together" (Pixaboy)


Contact

If you would like to contact us to provide feedback, advertise, become a sponsor, suggest a guest OR have a chat about how you might be able to create 'Some Elbow Room' for yourself, please do so to Darren Payne via email [email protected]

This short episode was recorded at the end of the main podcast "The Quirky, Clever, Surf Loving Artist - David Rossiter" with some quick fire questions about life and  conversations around favourite experiences, etc etc.

A bit of fun for you to get to know David & Vicki a little bit more that we couldn't quite fit into the main episode. Worth a listen for a cruisey laugh so enjoy ! 

PS - A little adult at times :)

Produced & Edited by Darren Payne

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Acknowledgments

Jon Worthy's song "It comes with time"
Jean-Marc Michaud's song "Happy Like a Duck"
Musictown song "Fun Times Together" (Pixaboy)


Contact

If you would like to contact us to provide feedback, advertise, become a sponsor, suggest a guest OR have a chat about how you might be able to create 'Some Elbow Room' for yourself, please do so to Darren Payne via email [email protected]

Please listen to Part A to fully enjoy this episode Part B

David Rossiter creates his own luck in life and has done it his own way.

After growing up in the suburbs of Melbourne, he found himself living on the coast of Victoria in Torquay where he could embrace his love of surfing back in the 70's & 80's when surfing was raw and real as ever. It remains his home today and his love of surfing has not diminished one little bit. The stories he can tell about his surfing & travelling life and the places he's been would blow you away and we'd need 20 podcasts to even go close to covering it all properly!

After working in the printing industry for 11 years, he created a role for himself at 'Quicksilver' where he started out sweeping the floors of the warehouse to shortly thereafter running the very first concept store in Torquay and eventually being the person in charge to take it to Asia and abroad. Twenty six years later in his early 50's, David had put himself into a position where he could leave the corporate world and finally start his dream job as a full time artist. And what an artist he is (Please check out @ david_rossiter_art (previously @smileyrooster) on Instagram).

David lives life like no other and epitomises the mantra of 'work hard, play hard' always finding the time to do the things he loves while working incredibly hard over his lifetime. A mad surfer back in his day before hurting his ears, a marathon runner, martial artist, family man, cheeky, funny, forever studying, super keen traveller and an immense love of India makes David one of the most interesting people anyone could ever meet.

David has 'done life' the right way so far and is living the ethos of what @someelbowroompodcast is all about thanks to his endless energy, thirst to learn, being true to himself and seeing the good in people and the world he lives in. Enjoy !!

Produced & Edited by Darren Payne
 

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Instagram: @someelbowroompodcast
Facebook: someelbowroompodcast
Twitter: @somelbowrmpod

Acknowledgments

Jon Worthy's song "It comes with time"
Jean-Marc Michaud's song "Happy Like a Duck"
Musictown song "Fun Times Together" (Pixaboy)


Contact

If you would like to contact us to provide feedback, advertise, become a sponsor, suggest a guest OR have a chat about how you might be able to create 'Some Elbow Room' for yourself, please do so to Darren Payne via email [email protected]

David Rossiter creates his own luck in life and has done it his own way.

After growing up in the suburbs of Melbourne, he found himself living on the coast of Victoria in Torquay where he could embrace his love of surfing back in the 70's & 80's when surfing was raw and real as ever. It remains his home today and his love of surfing has not diminished one little bit. The stories he can tell about his surfing & travelling life and the places he's been would blow you away and we'd need 20 podcasts to even go close to covering it all properly!

After working in the printing industry for 11 years, he created a role for himself at 'Quicksilver' where he started out sweeping the floors of the warehouse to shortly thereafter running the very first concept store in Torquay and eventually being the person in charge to take it to Asia and abroad. Twenty six years later in his early 50's, David had put himself into a position where he could leave the corporate world and finally start his dream job as a full time artist. And what an artist he is (Please check out @ david_rossiter_art (previously @smileyrooster) on Instagram).

David lives life like no other and epitomises the mantra of 'work hard, play hard' always finding the time to do the things he loves while working incredibly hard over his lifetime. A mad surfer back in his day before hurting his ears, a marathon runner, martial artist, family man, cheeky, funny, forever studying, super keen traveller and an immense love of India makes David one of the most interesting people anyone could ever meet.

David has 'done life' the right way so far and is living the ethos of what @someelbowroompodcast is all about thanks to his endless energy, thirst to learn, being true to himself and seeing the good in people and the world he lives in. Enjoy !!

Produced & Edited by Darren Payne

Socials

Instagram: @someelbowroompodcast
Facebook: someelbowroompodcast
Twitter: @somelbowrmpod

Acknowledgments

Jon Worthy's song "It comes with time"
Jean-Marc Michaud's song "Happy Like a Duck"
Musictown song "Fun Times Together" (Pixaboy)


Contact

If you would like to contact us to provide feedback, advertise, become a sponsor, suggest a guest OR have a chat about how you might be able to create 'Some Elbow Room' for yourself, please do so to Darren Payne via email [email protected]