The People Around Us

The People Around Us

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The People Around Us episodes

  • "Date or Donor" - An IVF Leap of Faith - Melanie McClure - PART B

    Please listen to Part A first of all to fully enjoy this episode.

    Growing up part of a close knit family in the country, Melanie McClure always wanted to be a Mum but was in no rush.  After high school, she moved to Geelong to go to university then lived the life in Melbourne partying with friends to live bands in gritty pubs while travelling the world as much as possible and working hard on her career along the way. She had a great time creating this life all on her own and loved it.

    When her friends started to get married and have children in their late 20's and early 30's, she was really happy for them but still had much more to do seeing the world and continued to do so into her late 30's. Now make no mistake, she didn't struggle meeting men but to put it bluntly, no one really rocked her world and was happy to wait. Then, when she thought her biological clock was ticking, Melanie once again took control of her own destiny creating the life she wanted heading down the track of having children via IVF..... on her own !!!!

    Luckily for her it all eventually worked out  and now has 2 beautiful kids in Myles & Evelyn with fantastic family support around her. She knows she is very lucky as this isn't always the way with IVF. Also, doing it on her own has been harder than she anticipated at times especially during covid lock downs.  

    Melanie  created the life she wanted regardless of what anyone said or society said she 'had to do' and this is her story. 

    Warning: Please ask a friend, family member or health professional to listen to Melanie's' story first if you think this may be difficult to hear as this story is a successful one in terms of having a baby via IVF.

    Produced & edited by Darren Payne

    Socials

    Instagram: @someelbowroompodcast
    Facebook: someelbowroompodcast
    Twitter: @somelbowrmpod

    Acknowledgments

    J
    on Worthy's song "It comes with time"
    Jean-Marc Michaud's song "Happy Like a Duck"
    Musictown song "Fun Times Together" (Pixaboy)


    Contact

    If you would like to contact us to provide feedback, advertise, become a sponsor, suggest a guest OR have a chat about how you might be able to create 'Some Elbow Room' for yourself, please do so to Darren Payne via email [email protected]

    53 min
  • "Date or Donor" - An IVF Leap of Faith - Melanie McClure - PART A

    Growing up part of a close knit family in the country, Melanie McClure always wanted to be a Mum but was in no rush.  After high school, she moved to Geelong to go to university then lived the life in Melbourne partying with friends to live bands in gritty pubs while travelling the world as much as possible and working hard on her career along the way. She had a great time creating this life all on her own and loved it.

    When her friends started to get married and have children in their late 20's and early 30's, she was really happy for them but still had much more to do seeing the world and continued to do so into her late 30's. Now make no mistake, she didn't struggle meeting men but to put it bluntly, no one really rocked her world and was happy to wait. Then, when she thought her biological clock was ticking, Melanie once again took control of her own destiny creating the life she wanted heading down the track of having children via IVF..... on her own !!!!

    Luckily for her it all eventually worked out  and now has 2 beautiful kids in Myles & Evelyn with fantastic family support around her. She knows she is very lucky as this isn't always the way with IVF. Also, doing it on her own has been harder than she anticipated at times especially during covid lock downs.  

    Melanie  created the life she wanted regardless of what anyone said or society said she 'had to do' and this is her story. 

    Warning: Please ask a friend, family member or health professional to listen to Melanie's' story first if you think this may be difficult to hear as this story is a successful one in terms of having a baby via IVF.

    Produced & edited by Darren Payne

    Socials

    Instagram: @someelbowroompodcast
    Facebook: someelbowroompodcast
    Twitter: @somelbowrmpod

    Acknowledgments

    J
    on Worthy's song "It comes with time"
    Jean-Marc Michaud's song "Happy Like a Duck"
    Musictown song "Fun Times Together" (Pixaboy)


    Contact

    If you would like to contact us to provide feedback, advertise, become a sponsor, suggest a guest OR have a chat about how you might be able to create 'Some Elbow Room' for yourself, please do so to Darren Payne via email [email protected]

    1 hr 6 min
  • Living Life After Living for Football - Gary O'Donnell - PART A

    This episode is the 3rd and last focusing on the hosts and it is an absolute beauty !! 

    Amongst many other things, Gary O'Donnell is an AFL legend of 243 games, Premiership player, Essendon Football Club Hall of Fame member and is greatly admired for his team first attitude and relentless desire to succeed. 

    Although Gary had a career that is the envy of all football lovers, it didn't come easy for him and had to work incredibly hard to get his opportunity and maintain his incredible consistency. He really was ahead of his time in terms of his professional approach to training in an era of the 1990's where the mantra was "train hard, play hard!"  

    Gary has had to learn how to transition into different things throughout his football career from a player to a leader, a player to a coach and now from being in the AFL system after 30 years of doing so to not working in the football industry at all.  This has been an interesting time in Gary's life to say the least trying to find that 'next thing' that get's him excited each day to work where he is drawing on the skills he learnt as an AFL player and Coach to help him get there. 

    It is difficult to have a podcast on Gary without just focusing on Football as it has been his life. But as you will hear, there is so much more to Gary especially now at this stage of his life. 

    It's a great listen and we just love having him as a co-host of the podcast and hope you enjoy his story and get to know him a little bit better. Enjoy !

    PS - Thanks to Julie Richardson for her cameo introduction and outro 

    Socials

    Instagram: @someelbowroompodcast
    Facebook: someelbowroompodcast
    Twitter: @somelbowrmpod

    Acknowledgments

    J
    on Worthy's song "It comes with time"
    Jean-Marc Michaud's song "Happy Like a Duck"
    Musictown song "Fun Times Together" (Pixaboy)


    Contact

    If you would like to contact us to provide feedback, advertise, become a sponsor, suggest a guest OR have a chat about how you might be able to create 'Some Elbow Room' for yourself, please do so to Darren Payne via email [email protected]

    58 min
  • Living Life After Living for Football - Gary O'Donnell - PART B

    (Please listen to Part A before listening to Part B to enjoy it fully)

    This episode is the 3rd and last focusing on the hosts and it is an absolute beauty !! 

    Amongst many other things, Gary O'Donnell is an AFL legend of 243 games, Premiership player, Essendon Football Club Hall of Fame member and is greatly admired for his team first attitude and relentless desire to succeed. 

    Although Gary had a career that is the envy of all football lovers, it didn't come easy for him and had to work incredibly hard to get his opportunity and maintain his incredible consistency. He really was ahead of his time in terms of his professional approach to training in an era of the 1990's where the mantra was "train hard, play hard!"  

    Gary has had to learn how to transition into different things throughout his football career from a player to a leader, a player to a coach and now from being in the AFL system after 30 years of doing so to not working in the football industry at all.  This has been an interesting time in Gary's life to say the least trying to find that 'next thing' that get's him excited each day to work where he is drawing on the skills he learnt as an AFL player and Coach to help him get there. 

    It is difficult to have a podcast on Gary without just focusing on Football as it has been his life. But as you will hear, there is so much more to Gary especially now at this stage of his life. 

    It's a great listen and we just love having him as a co-host of the podcast and hope you enjoy his story and get to know him a little bit better. Enjoy !

    PS - Thanks to Julie Richardson for her cameo introduction and outro 

    Socials

    Instagram: @someelbowroompodcast
    Facebook: someelbowroompodcast
    Twitter: @somelbowrmpod

    Acknowledgments

    J
    on Worthy's song "It comes with time"
    Jean-Marc Michaud's song "Happy Like a Duck"
    Musictown song "Fun Times Together" (Pixaboy)


    Contact

    If you would like to contact us to provide feedback, advertise, become a sponsor, suggest a guest OR have a chat about how you might be able to create 'Some Elbow Room' for yourself, please do so to Darren Payne via email [email protected]

    42 min
  • A Lifetime of Saying Yes More Than No - David Nancarrow - Part A

    This episode is about the life of David Nancarrow and the second of three focusing on the hosts of the podcast.  

    David has created a very successful, fun life while travelling and working all around the world ! This isn't only due to his high intellect, confidence or somewhat gregarious nature either. It's a conscious decision to remain constantly aware of what's going on around him, challenge why things are done a particular way and when an opportunity or new experience presents itself, he says "yes" more than he says "no." 

    "Why wouldn't you!!" as he often says.

    David can talk to anyone regardless of their background or who they may be and people want to be around him. Having said that, the inner down to earth, cheeky aussie kid from a good upbringing keeps him grounded when he may get ahead of himself as do those around him. The "kid" in David is always well and truly dominating though to ensure fun, conversation and banter is never too far away!!

    One of the things we talk a lot about on the podcast is making sure you create space in your life to do more of things you love.  Well, our host "Nankers" is the epitome of this attitude while also working very hard and being a great family man and friend to many. The community and friendship group he has created for himself is amazing and varied but he puts the effort in to stay in touch with his mates & family and deserves everything he gets in life. 

    We are lucky to have Dave as a host and hope you enjoy getting know him a lot more. Enjoy !

    PS -  Thanks to Craig Slarke for the cameo intro and outro. 

    Produced & Edited by Darren Payne

    Socials

    Instagram: @someelbowroompodcast
    Facebook: someelbowroompodcast
    Twitter: @somelbowrmpod

    Acknowledgments

    J
    on Worthy's song "It comes with time"
    Jean-Marc Michaud's song "Happy Like a Duck"
    Musictown song "Fun Times Together" (Pixaboy)


    Contact

    If you would like to contact us to provide feedback, advertise, become a sponsor, suggest a guest OR have a chat about how you might be able to create 'Some Elbow Room' for yourself, please do so to Darren Payne via email [email protected]

    1 hr 2 min
  • A Lifetime of Saying Yes More Than No - David Nancarrow - Part B

    Please listen to Part A beforehand. 

    This episode is about the life of David Nancarrow and the second of three focusing on the hosts of the podcast.  

    David has created a very successful, fun life while travelling and working all around the world ! This isn't only due to his high intellect, confidence or somewhat gregarious nature either. It's a conscious decision to remain constantly aware of what's going on around him, challenge why things are done a particular way and when an opportunity or new experience presents itself, he says "yes" more than he says "no." 

    "Why wouldn't you!!" as he often says.

    David can talk to anyone regardless of their background or who they may be and people want to be around him. Having said that, the inner down to earth, cheeky aussie kid from a good upbringing keeps him grounded when he may get ahead of himself as do those around him. The "kid" in David is always well and truly dominating though to ensure fun, conversation and banter is never too far away!!

    One of the things we talk a lot about on the podcast is making sure you create space in your life to do more of things you love.  Well, our host "Nankers" is the epitome of this attitude while also working very hard and being a great family man and friend to many. The community and friendship group he has created for himself is amazing and varied but he puts the effort in to stay in touch with his mates & family and deserves everything he gets in life. 

    We are lucky to have Dave as a host and hope you enjoy getting know him a lot more. Enjoy !

    PS -  Thanks to Craig Slarke for the cameo intro and outro. 

    Produced & Edited by Darren Payne

    Socials

    Instagram: @someelbowroompodcast
    Facebook: someelbowroompodcast
    Twitter: @somelbowrmpod

    Acknowledgments

    J
    on Worthy's song "It comes with time"
    Jean-Marc Michaud's song "Happy Like a Duck"
    Musictown song "Fun Times Together" (Pixaboy)


    Contact

    If you would like to contact us to provide feedback, advertise, become a sponsor, suggest a guest OR have a chat about how you might be able to create 'Some Elbow Room' for yourself, please do so to Darren Payne via email [email protected]

    46 min
  • Life hasn't gone to plan & that's finally Ok - Darren Payne - PART A

    Darren is the creator and co-host of the podcast and this episode is the first of 3 focussing on the lives of the hosts so far.

    Darren was surrounded by love, support and opportunities throughout his childhood and is the first to admit how lucky he is.  A very promising junior AFL footballer, he seemed destined to have a long career in the AFL playing for his families beloved team the "Fitzroy Football Club." Unfortunately for a variety of reasons that were both circumstantial and by his admission his own doing, this didn't quite eventuate as he hoped. As Darren has matured and reflected on this time, his somewhat over-thinking personality has been the cause of significant angst throughout his life that he's had to learn to live with and is only recently getting on top of things in this space as a now 48 year old.

    Ten years later, Darren found himself living in Perth on the other side of Australia to where he grew up in Melbourne after the breakdown of his marriage. A decision he made to be close to his kids and an active father like he had growing up. It was a scary time where he found out who his real friends were and when he had to deal with loneliness and significant depression for 5-6 years. It was a tough time for Darren and all around him. However, through learned resilience on the run, a fierce appetite to understand himself and his ability to thrive amongst others in a like minded community, he got through it which was also fuelled by the intense love for his kids.

    All of these experiences have influenced Darren's life to be where it is today which Darren vulnerably opens up about including the creation of this podcast for others.

    This is the story of our creator and Co-host, Darren Payne. Enjoy !

    PS - Thanks to Amanda Payne for her intro & outro

     

    Socials

    Instagram: @someelbowroompodcast
    Facebook: someelbowroompodcast
    Twitter: @somelbowrmpod

    Acknowledgments

    J
    on Worthy's song "It comes with time"
    Jean-Marc Michaud's song "Happy Like a Duck"
    Musictown song "Fun Times Together" (Pixaboy)


    Contact

    If you would like to contact us to provide feedback, advertise, become a sponsor, suggest a guest OR have a chat about how you might be able to create 'Some Elbow Room' for yourself, please do so to Darren Payne via email [email protected]

    1 hr 1 min
  • Life hasn't gone to plan & that's finally Ok - Darren Payne - PART B

    NOTE: Please listen to Part A beforehand to get full context of this episode.

    Darren is the creator and co-host of the podcast and this episode is the first of 3 focussing on the lives of the hosts so far.

    Darren was surrounded by love, support and opportunities throughout his childhood and is the first to admit how lucky he is.  A very promising junior AFL footballer, he seemed destined to have a long career in the AFL playing for his families beloved team the "Fitzroy Football Club." Unfortunately for a variety of reasons that were both circumstantial and by his admission his own doing, this didn't quite eventuate as he hoped. As Darren has matured and reflected on this time, his somewhat over-thinking personality has been the cause of significant angst throughout his life that he's had to learn to live with and is only recently getting on top of things in this space as a now 48 year old.

    Ten years later, Darren found himself living in Perth on the other side of Australia to where he grew up in Melbourne after the breakdown of his marriage. A decision he made to be close to his kids and an active father like he had growing up. It was a scary time where he found out who his real friends were and when he had to deal with loneliness and significant depression for 5-6 years. It was a tough time for Darren and all around him. However, through learned resilience on the run, a fierce appetite to understand himself and his ability to thrive amongst others in a like minded community, he got through it which was also fuelled by the intense love for his kids.

    All of these experiences have influenced Darren's life to be where it is today which Darren vulnerably opens up about including the creation of this podcast for others.

    This is the story of our creator and Co-host, Darren Payne. Enjoy !

    PS - Thanks to Amanda Payne for her intro & outro

     

    Socials

    Instagram: @someelbowroompodcast
    Facebook: someelbowroompodcast
    Twitter: @somelbowrmpod

    Acknowledgments

    J
    on Worthy's song "It comes with time"
    Jean-Marc Michaud's song "Happy Like a Duck"
    Musictown song "Fun Times Together" (Pixaboy)


    Contact

    If you would like to contact us to provide feedback, advertise, become a sponsor, suggest a guest OR have a chat about how you might be able to create 'Some Elbow Room' for yourself, please do so to Darren Payne via email [email protected]

    28 min
  • Thanks & What's Next in 2023

    Happy New Year 2023 !!! 

    This quick episode thanks everyone for the incredible feedback we've received so far after the launch of the first 3 episodes leading into Christmas 2022. We have been blown away & very much humbled by the response . 

    We also talk about what's coming up for us in 2023,  answer a few key questions many of you asked of us recently relating to the podcast and give you a sneaky glimpse of who we are talking to over the coming months. 

    Thanks again and  keep listening to our stories to understand there are many ways to live a life and that when it comes to work and the influence it is having on us,  that we are all pretty much going through the same shit so you are not alone !!! 

    PS - Give yourself 'Some Elbow Room' over the break and into the year ahead to do more of the things you love!!

    Produced & Edited by Darren Payne

    Socials

    Instagram: @someelbowroompodcast
    Facebook: someelbowroompodcast
    Twitter: @somelbowrmpod

    Acknowledgments

    J
    on Worthy's song "It comes with time"
    Jean-Marc Michaud's song "Happy Like a Duck"
    Musictown song "Fun Times Together" (Pixaboy)


    Contact

    If you would like to contact us to provide feedback, advertise, become a sponsor, suggest a guest OR have a chat about how you might be able to create 'Some Elbow Room' for yourself, please do so to Darren Payne via email [email protected]

    14 min
  • Family Man First, Funny Man Second - Peter Rowsthorn - Part B

    NOTE: Best enjoyed after listening to Part A first.

    Peter Rowsthorn is an Australian Stand-Up Comedian, Actor, Writer, MC and Host who has been in our lives on TV, stage & screen for almost 40 years !! He is incredibly funny, unique, animated, bit loose yet considered, aware and loyal. He has starred in iconic shows such as The Comedy Company,  Pricilla Queen of the Desert, Thank God You're Here, I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here, Let the Blood Run Free,  Paper Planes, Cracker Jack and most notably as Brett from the classic TV series Kath & Kim. However, it's the selfless decisions he's made along the way throughout his working life putting his family's interest first that make him the man he is today as a proud family man.  Very much ahead of his time, Peter has also always made work-life balance a priority and talk about that and the importance of it. He is very open about his childhood and also where things are at for him now as a parent and he has had numerous things he has had to get through off camera. You'll laugh multiple times listening to this episode while admiring a man who loves his family and knows where he fits in a ruthless industry that's enabled him to have a career that's the envy of many both in an out of the entertainment industry. 
    ------------------------------------------
    Produced & Edited by Darren Payne

    Socials

    Instagram: @someelbowroompodcast
    Facebook: someelbowroompodcast
    Twitter: @somelbowrmpod

    Acknowledgments

    J
    on Worthy's song "It comes with time"
    Jean-Marc Michaud's song "Happy Like a Duck"
    Musictown song "Fun Times Together" (Pixaboy)


    Contact

    If you would like to contact us to provide feedback, advertise, become a sponsor, suggest a guest OR have a chat about how you might be able to create 'Some Elbow Room' for yourself, please do so to Darren Payne via email [email protected]

    41 min

About The People Around Us

From the publisher's feed

(Formerly The 'Some Elbow Room' Podcast)


There are so many ways to live a life and this podcast is testament to that! 


Our conversations are honest, fun,…