Tune in to the latest instalment of The Philosofa podcast. Co-hosts Omar Hamdi and Broderick Chow spark a philosophical powder keg with the question – What’s wrong with inequality? They are joined on their metaphysical sofa by lecturer in political philosophy at the University of York, Martin O’Neill; co-author of the highly-acclaimed, The Spirit Level: why equality is better for everyone, Professor Richard Wilkinson; and award-winning artist, film and opera director and writer, Penny Woolcock.
Income inequality is a bit like hot sauce – a little bit can make things interesting, but too much can be corrosive.
Martin O’Neill helps to shed light on some of the philosophical arguments surrounding the topic. For example, a commonly held idea is that what matters from the point of view of social justice is, not equality of income and wealth, but equality of opportunity. Equality of opportunity means that all positions - whether in politics, education or economic life - should be open to everyone and should be allocated according to individual merit. However, Martin argues that the idea that there could be real equality of opportunity, in the absence of background conditions of some degree of material equality, is confused.
He also questions the much-touted argument that we need large income inequalities in order to incentivize the most talented people in society to be at their most productive. Following the late, great political philosopher, Jerry Cohen, Martin asks whether, for instance, a highly skilled brain surgeon wanting four times the average salary in order to put on her gloves might in some way be analogous to a hostage-taker making a ransom demand.
While Martin sheds light on some of the philosophical questions surrounding the debate, Richard Wilkinson explains his empirical research. Richard and his co-author, Kate Pickett, studied a vast amount of statistical data concerning the levels of inequality within particular countries and US states, and the degree of social and health problems in those places. What they found is that, across the board, the more unequal countries and states do worse on the whole index of social and health problems that they studied – including life-expectancy, rates of mental illness, imprisonment, homicide, educational performance, social mobility, and levels of trust - and that they seem to do worse in proportion to the relative level of inequality.
The lesson they draw is that, in developed countries, average wellbeing in society does not depend on average income per head or economic growth. National income and economic growth tend to be very important in poorer countries. However, in richer countries, which have already achieved a certain level of economic growth, what matters is where people are in relation to each other. A particularly key claim that they make is that it’s not just the poor who are affected by inequality. Rather, inequality impacts negatively on everyone within these societies.
Lastly, we have Penny. Many of Penny’s films have involved working with people living on the fringes of society – for instance, homeless communities, or, in her documentary, One Mile Away, members of two rival Birmingham gangs attempting to forge a truce. Penny brings her personal experience, and the lens of a filmmaker, to bear on the issues.
If all this piques your interest, join us for another great episode.