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🎙️ The Quirky Brain Club - Episode 4

In this episode, Jo gets fired up about the endless stream of "solutions" promising to fix neurodivergence. Spoiler alert: you're not broken, so you don't need fixing!

What we cover:

• Why the quest for universal neurodivergent "fixes" is problematic
• The truth about psychological studies and neurodivergent exclusion
• Why that "perfect" planner might stop working (hello, dopamine!)
• The importance of understanding YOUR unique patterns
• Why experimentation beats perfectionism every time

Key Takeaways: 
✨ There's no one-size-fits-all solution for neurodivergent brains 
✨ Your lived experience is valid - trust it 
✨ Focus on building systems that work WITH your brain, not against it 
✨ Progress over perfection (even when your brain wants all-or-nothing thinking)

Resources Mentioned:
📝 Download Jo's free Energy Mapping Kit at jocasey.com

Website: jocasey.com

Quotes from the Episode:

"You cannot fix something that's not broken."

"The goal isn't to become less neurodivergent. It's to build a life and a business that works with your brain, not against it."

Jo Casey is an Autistic and ADHD speaker and business coach who helps other neurodivergent entrepreneurs make more money with less overwhelm and more joy in their work. By aligning your business strategies with your unique brain wiring, we'll transform your neurodivergent traits into powerful assets for growth and fulfilment.
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Join Jo Casey and special guest Eli Trier as they dive into the often-overlooked aspect of running a neurodivergent-owned business: befriending your nervous system. Discover practical strategies for managing the emotional highs and lows of entrepreneurship, debunk harmful mindset myths, and learn how to create a business that works with your unique neurodivergent wiring, not against it.

## Show Notes:

1. Introduction to Eli Trier and her work at Elinor Trier Studio (00:00 - 02:00)
   - Eli's background as a queer-adjacent AuDHD artist and entrepreneur

2. The importance of nervous system regulation for neurodivergent entrepreneurs (02:00 - 08:00)
   - Why traditional business advice often falls short for neurodivergent individuals
   - The impact of nervous system dysregulation on business performance

3. Launching and its effects on the nervous system (08:00 - 15:00)
   - Eli's approach to short launches and managing emotional responses
   - The value of understanding your numbers and patterns

4. Practical strategies for nervous system regulation (15:00 - 23:00)
   - Somatic practices and getting out of your head
   - The power of creative activities and nature in calming the nervous system
   - Importance of self-soothing techniques

5. Debunking toxic positivity and mindset myths in business (23:00 - 31:00)
   - The problem with the "feel the fear and do it anyway" mentality
   - Finding balance between pushing yourself and self-care

6. Building a business that works for your neurodivergent brain (31:00 - 40:00)
   - The dangers of one-size-fits-all business advice
   - Creating strategies that align with your strengths and energy levels

7. The myth of hustle culture and working 16-hour days (40:00 - 45:00)
   - Eli's experience of building successful businesses on limited working hours
   - The importance of focusing on what actually matters in your business

8. Wrap-up and information about Jo's Supernova Collective programme (45:00 - end)
   - How the programme supports neurodivergent entrepreneurs
   - Eli's endorsement of Jo's coaching approach

Guest Info:
Elinor Trier is a queer-adjacent AuDHD artist, writer, podcaster, YouTuber, dopamine dealer, and founder of Elinor Trier Studio, where she creates artwork that reminds you that you're not the 'odd one out', you're 'one of a kind'.

Connect with Eli:
- Website: elinortriastudio.com
- Newsletter signup
- YouTube
- Podcast

Connect with Jo:
- Website: jocasey.com
- Supernova Collective: jocasey.com/supernova

Jo Casey is an Autistic and ADHD speaker and business coach who helps other neurodivergent entrepreneurs make more money with less overwhelm and more joy in their work. By aligning your business strategies with your unique brain wiring, we'll transform your neurodivergent traits into powerful assets for growth and fulfilment.
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In this episode of The Quirky Brain Podcast, Jo Casey shares her personal journey from sales-averse beginner to confident business owner. She discusses the mental and emotional barriers she overcame, key mindset shifts, and practical strategies that helped her embrace selling.

Jo offers insights for neurodivergent entrepreneurs on developing a healthier relationship with their business and creating authentic, effective sales approaches.

The episode concludes with an introduction to Jo's Supernova Collective programme for service-based, neurodivergent entrepreneurs looking to improve their business and sales skills. 

Show Notes: 

1. Introduction: Jo discusses her journey to becoming comfortable with sales over 15 years in business.
2. Early challenges: 
   • Initial discomfort with selling and marketing
   • Reliance on word-of-mouth referrals
   • Investing heavily in courses and masterminds
3. Key turning points: 
   • Gathering evidence of her coaching effectiveness
   • Learning to be more authentic in business
   • Finding a supportive community of peers
4. Overcoming mental barriers: 
   • Addressing money mindset issues
   • Recognising the value of her work
   • Separating personal worth from business success
5. Developing a healthier relationship with business: 
   • Understanding parasocial relationships
   • Balancing business with personal life
   • Viewing business objectively as a system to improve
6. Current approach to sales and marketing: 
   • Embracing sales as a necessary part of business
   • Creating bespoke strategies that work for individuals
   • Focusing on building trust and providing value
7. Introduction to the Supernova Collective programme

Jo Casey is an Autistic and ADHD speaker and business coach who helps other neurodivergent entrepreneurs make more money with less overwhelm and more joy in their work. By aligning your business strategies with your unique brain wiring, we'll transform your neurodivergent traits into powerful assets for growth and fulfilment.
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Welcome back to The Quirky Brain Club podcast! In this comeback episode, I'm diving into the changing world of online business and what it means for us neurodivergent entrepreneurs.

Key Points:

1. The online business landscape has evolved, but the fundamentals remain the same
2. Courses and high-end programs aren't selling like they used to - the market has "lost its innocence."
3. Social media algorithms have changed, making it harder to rely on platforms like Instagram and Facebook
4. The collective trauma of the pandemic has shifted priorities and purchasing behaviours
5. Clients are more discerning and demand clearer benefits before investing
6. Trust, authenticity, and intimate relationships with clients are more important than ever

Highlights:

• My return to the online business world after a 2.5-year hiatus
• The shift from a "buy-in" to "buy now" mentality in marketing
• Why we neurodivergent entrepreneurs may have an advantage in the current market
• The importance of clear messaging and consistent, simplified marketing systems
• Why being authentic and "quirky" can be a business asset

Quotable Moments:

"We don't have the same capacity anymore. So that means people need to be much clearer on what they're getting and why it's important for them."

"Being able to show up as a rounded human being people can connect with, that people can have that human-to-human connection with, that is the fundamentals of building a sustainable relationship."

Call to Action:

I would love to hear your thoughts and experiences on the changing online business landscape. Connect with me on social media or through my website to share your insights!

Jo Casey is an Autistic and ADHD speaker and business coach who helps other neurodivergent entrepreneurs make more money with less overwhelm and more joy in their work. By aligning your business strategies with your unique brain wiring, we'll transform your neurodivergent traits into powerful assets for growth and fulfilment.
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Welcome back to The Quirky Brain Club podcast! In this comeback episode, I'm diving into the changing world of online business and what it means for us neurodivergent entrepreneurs.

Key Points:

1. The online business landscape has evolved, but the fundamentals remain the same
2. Courses and high-end programs aren't selling like they used to - the market has "lost its innocence."
3. Social media algorithms have changed, making it harder to rely on platforms like Instagram and Facebook
4. The collective trauma of the pandemic has shifted priorities and purchasing behaviours
5. Clients are more discerning and demand clearer benefits before investing
6. Trust, authenticity, and intimate relationships with clients are more important than ever

Highlights:

• My return to the online business world after a 2.5-year hiatus
• The shift from a "buy-in" to "buy now" mentality in marketing
• Why we neurodivergent entrepreneurs may have an advantage in the current market
• The importance of clear messaging and consistent, simplified marketing systems
• Why being authentic and "quirky" can be a business asset

Quotable Moments:

"I think we genuinely don't have the same capacity anymore. So that means people need to be much clearer on what they're getting and why it's important for them."

"Being able to show up as a rounded being people can connect with, that people can have that human-to-human connection with, that is the fundamentals of building a sustainable relationship."

Call to Action:

I would love to hear your thoughts and experiences on the changing online business landscape.
Connect with me on social media or through my website to share your thoughts!

Jo Casey is an Autistic and ADHD speaker and business coach who helps other neurodivergent entrepreneurs make more money with less overwhelm and more joy in their work. By aligning your business strategies with your unique brain wiring, we'll transform your neurodivergent traits into powerful assets for growth and fulfilment.
Connect with her at Jocasey.com or follow her on Instagram

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Welcome back to the new season of the Unshiny Podcast!

I'm sharing an episode Ray Dodd and I recorded and first shared on her Money Makers podcast, all about the brilliance and limitations of many coaching programs, and share with you a bit about our new program - Plenty More.

Ray and I talk about our love of coaching that doesn’t just make room for mistakes but knows they’re necessary for growth. We chat about leaning into experimenting and troubleshooting, trusting yourself, and embracing your own process to build and grow your business on your own principles and terms.

This one’s all about coaching with integrity and being coached with your needs at the centre of it all.

If this sounds like your kind of coaching, be sure to check out Plenty More! Listen to the full episode to hear much more about the program, and follow the link here to apply to join the live private training

QUOTES
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Jo: 'We call it business coaching, but a lot of the time its business strategy, or business consultancy. And there are often things that will be bedded into a program, like our program, that will have elements of strategy. It will have elements of consultancy mentoring. That's why I call myself a money coach and mentor because I absolutely do both.'

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Ray: ‘I kind of think of [coaching] as sitting with someone and they're drawing stuff out of you, but you're also absorbing stuff and learning stuff from that person. And that's no bad thing. That's great.’

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Ray: ‘Patriarchy literally means handed from father to son. So to me, it means ignoring women… or anyone who's not father son. Who doesn't fit into that bracket. It means ignoring everybody. But that obviously happens in terms of, we talk about neurological diversities. You know, if somebody hasn't got that, if you're selling how you managed to do business and you don't have a neurological diversity, or you are a white woman, or you are a cis hetero woman, there are things you are just missing.'

Links For This Episdoe:

Plenty More Free Private Training
Ray's Website

Jo Casey is an Autistic and ADHD speaker and business coach who helps other neurodivergent entrepreneurs make more money with less overwhelm and more joy in their work. By aligning your business strategies with your unique brain wiring, we'll transform your neurodivergent traits into powerful assets for growth and fulfilment.
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This is going to be a great episode for you if you’re someone who has ever struggled with certain aspects of your business, that doesn’t seem to have an obvious strategy solution to them, which AKA is every one of us.

So those places in our business where we find that this may be a bigger than usual emotional resonance. So for example, why do I feel such terror when I’m doing my accounts? Or why do I struggle to take time off and to have proper boundaries around my business?

Why do I find that I’m working really long hours and I’m struggling to switch off a bit at the end of the day? Those kinds of things, which I know are really, really common. And very often we will try and solve with a different strategy. Whereas actually, the truth is that there’s something deeper going on beneath the surface.
Nicole Lewis-Keeber is a business therapist and mindset coach who works with entrepreneurs to create and nurture healthy relationships with their businesses. She’s a Licensed Clinical Social Worker with a Masters in Social Work and has a rich and varied experience as a therapist. Certified in Brené Brown’s Dare To Lead™ methodology, she’s also been featured on numerous media outlets including Fast Company and NPR for her work in breaking the stigma of mental health and business ownership. 

 Nicole Lewis-Keeber has just released a book, which is all about this kind of thing, and it’s called how to love your business, stop recreating trauma, and have a business you love, and that loves you back.

What I cover in my conversation with Nicole Lewis-Keeber

• How she discovered the concept of being in relationship with our business
• The impact of trauma (both large and small t) on our relationships
• Tools that help to heal your relationship with your business

Jo Casey is an Autistic and ADHD speaker and business coach who helps other neurodivergent entrepreneurs make more money with less overwhelm and more joy in their work. By aligning your business strategies with your unique brain wiring, we'll transform your neurodivergent traits into powerful assets for growth and fulfilment.
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I feel like I've given you a lot of nerdy, big picture stuff over the past few weeks and you know, I'm not averse to a bit of nerdy, big picture stuff. I own my nerdiness!  But. I also wanted to give you some more of the juicy specifics of what your business needs at the different stages it's at.

Because what works when you're at the beginning is going to be pretty different to what you need when you have a full practice.

As I've been stressing over the past few weeks, there are no specific blueprints or formulas to tie guarantee your success but there are some core foundational things that all businesses I know have in place - and that's what I'm going to share with you today.

I'll be sharing:

• What 6 + elements do you need to have in  place when you're in the foundational stage of your business journey
• What's the 1 core things all business owners need, no matter what stage of growth they're in?
• What's different when you're in the growth phase of your business life?
• How do you make sure your business is enjoyable, sustainable and makes you money (all while staying ethical and unshiny?)

Links Mentioned in this episode:
 
Nilofer Merchant - The Power Of Onlyness
The Supernova Collective
My New  Program: The Supernova Continuum

Jo Casey is an Autistic and ADHD speaker and business coach who helps other neurodivergent entrepreneurs make more money with less overwhelm and more joy in their work. By aligning your business strategies with your unique brain wiring, we'll transform your neurodivergent traits into powerful assets for growth and fulfilment.
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In this week's episode of the Unshiny Podcast, I'll be talking about how we all get to be pioneers. Not only building our business but in shaping the industry and the wider culture around us, simply by doing our businesses, our way. 

For years opening and running a business was prohibitively expensive. -Out of reach for most folks, especially women and people of colour. But technology means you can now start a business that makes money with only a phone and a wifi connection. 

 The means of production are in our hands. 

The gatekeepers of business- the bank managers and investors who were ones who could say yes or no, loan the start-up money, grant the permits and so on are no longer the ones in control and the barriers have been removed.   

This is exciting because there are so many opportunities in this brave new world, and because the industry is so new we have the opportunity to shape it in any way we choose. 

The downside of that is there are no real roadmaps, apart from those being pushed, by the guys who used to be the gatekeepers - hence the bro marketers and the Tony Robbins style machismo of the disgruntled white dude shouting at us from our computer monitors insisting we need their formula or wisdom to be 'successful'. 

So how do we find our own path and avoid the pitfalls? 

How do we decide on the direction? And how do we make sure that we're not bringing familiar toxic practices like overwork and burnout over into our businesses? 

I'll be diving into all this in this episode, including 

• The origins of the word pioneer. 
• A bit of a history of barriers to even starting a business for many folks. 
• The beauty and the drawbacks of being the first on the path. 
• And how we can use this opportunity to create nourishing, sustainable businesses - not only for ourselves but as a model of possibility that reshapes the culture of work altogether. 

Books Mentioned in this episode:

Burnout by EMILY NAGOSKI, PHD and AMELIA NAGOSKI, DMA

Emergent Strategy Shaping Change, Changing Worlds by 

ADRIENNE MAREE BROWN

Previous Unshiny Podcast Episodes Mentioned:

Episode 1 - What Is An Unshiny Business

Episode 2 - The Co-Delusion Of The Shiny Life

Episode 3 - Coach Your Own Business 

Jo Casey is an Autistic and ADHD speaker and business coach who helps other neurodivergent entrepreneurs make more money with less overwhelm and more joy in their work. By aligning your business strategies with your unique brain wiring, we'll transform your neurodivergent traits into powerful assets for growth and fulfilment.
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This podcast is entitled Coach Your Own Business - AKA, ‘why it takes a village and what's wrong with the patriarchal, capitalist model of the lone hero idea of running a business.’

Which I know makes it sound like a college class that you're only taking to get the easy credits, but I promise you it's (hopefully) a lot more useful and entertaining than you might be thinking!

We’re going to be talking about how broken many of the models of being a business owner or entrepreneur are - and what we need instead (hint: it’s far more gentle, kind and transformative than you might be thinking.) 

We're going to be discussing:

• Cowboys and how the constructed myth of the Marlboro cowboy still influences our toxic modern-day business culture. 
• Power imbalances 
• Toxic ‘authority building’, coaches as gurus (and why they’re particularly rife within the online business community) 
• AND why you don’t need ANY of it. 

Finally, I lay out why we need a different model of business. One that doesn't rely on Patriarchal, overly hyped gurus and or going it on your lonesome way alone.  No. 

I’ll share what I think we all really need in terms of support for a thriving business and how putting your own magic and power at the centre of it makes all the difference to you, your clients, and your bottom line. 

And it's much lovelier too. 

Jo Casey is an Autistic and ADHD speaker and business coach who helps other neurodivergent entrepreneurs make more money with less overwhelm and more joy in their work. By aligning your business strategies with your unique brain wiring, we'll transform your neurodivergent traits into powerful assets for growth and fulfilment.
Connect with her at Jocasey.com or follow her on Instagram