Donald Trump has the figure and muscle tone of a baby whale but he moved through the MLK Memorial in Washington on Monday like Usain Bolt. Traveling with the equally intolerant and odious Mike Pence, the U.S. president was in and out of the memorial in two minutes. But he went. Which our own Kori Schake says speaks to the power of norms in our society and is a good thing. Even better, the rapidly accelerating role for diverse voices in American politics--a trend that gained a big boost with the November elections and another when Cardi B entered the government shutdown debate over the weekend. Join Kori and guest Joe Cirincione for a discussion of these trends plus--next steps with North Korea on the latest DSR.

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