Steph and Gordon Corera, host of The Rest Is Classified and the BBC’s Security Correspondent, discuss the security risks posed to the UK by Rachel Reeves’ new ploy to secure Chinese investment. Also, how Huawei was replaced by Tik Tok, and then DeepSeek, as the latest digital threat to the West and why an era of subtle ‘cognitive warfare’ has been ushered in by social media.

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Robert and Steph catch up after Rachel Reeves’ attempt to bring back confidence in the UK economy. With plans for a third runway at Heathrow, a corridor of investment between Cambridge and Oxford as well as money for projects in places like Manchester and Wrexham, we discuss the pros and cons. And for a change it’s Steph who takes on the role of Eeyore.

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Steph and Robert catch up on Trump’s first week back in office. Looking at the likely economic impact of his decisions on mass deportation, the environment, energy and prices. As well as what wasn’t said on things like trade tariffs with China. Plus with Rachel Reeves hoping to convince us she’s got a plan for growth this week, we discuss whether a third runaway at Heathrow is going to cut it. And why we’re in an ugly competition. Good news though: we’re not the ugliest.

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Steph and Robert speak to Sir Paul Nurse - Nobel Prize winning cell biologist and Director of the Francis Crick Institute - about how science funding needs to change, why the UK is failing to lure global talent, how we scrub up against the other OECD countries in terms of research and development and how - despite being a geneticist - it took him 55 years to discover who his biological parents were.

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The founder of the OBR and now boss of all official statistics Robert Chote explains to Steph and Robert why the UK’s unemployment numbers are so unreliable and why the chancellor should be braver and not obsessively try to meet her fiscal rules at all times.

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Robert and Steph are joined by Peter Kyle, the Science and Tech Secretary of State, to evaluate whether the prime minister’s plan to turn the UK into an AI world leader, while simultaneously modernising public services and making us richer, has any chance of succeeding.

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Steph and Robert are joined by Dr Gerard Lyons, an influential economist and Bank of China board member, to discuss whether Rachel Reeves is wise to ask China to invest in the UK, whether the Chancellor will need to come back for more tax rises later this year and what he really advised Liz Truss to do.

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Robert gives us his take on 'Starmer vs Musk' and Steph tells us why she thinks business rates are going to be a big problem this year. There’s also a discussion about misunderstood concepts in economics, first up: GDP. Plus we catch-up on the exciting post Steph and Robert received over Christmas. A clue: it involves a Clinton and a Truss.

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Karen Ward, Chief Market Strategist for one of the leading financial institutions in the world, JP Morgan Asset Management, talks to Robert and Steph about how Starmer can restore investors’ confidence, why she worries that the surge in the Magnificent 7 huge tech stocks is over, how AI can make most of us better off and whether Trump will be less radical than his rhetoric.

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Steph and Robert explain why 2025 will be the most important year of our lives, and assess whether it will be a terrible or great year.  It is all about the unraveling of globalization and the proliferation of wars. One word nutshells the world on a fulcrum: Trump.

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