The Retirement Wisdom Podcast

The Retirement Roundtable III


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In this third installment of The Retirement Roundtable, previous guests Michelle Pannor Silver (author of Retirement and Its Discontents, Ted Kaufman, and Bruce Hiland (co-authors of Retiring? Your Next Chapter Is about Much More Than Money) return to discuss the challenges of retirement - and the work it takes to prepare well to overcome them and create a fulfilling next chapter.

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Bios
Dr. Michelle Pannor Silver 

Michelle Pannor Silver is an Associate Professor at the University of Toronto and author of numerous studies on retirement and aging. Her book, Retirement and Its Discontents, draws from in-depth interviews she conducted with people whose departure from their life’s work meant losing a core and fundamental component of their personal identity. Her work calls attention to ageism and societal loss associated with retirement while highlighting the personal struggles that can be arise when there is a mismatch between one’s idealized retirement and the reality of giving up identity, income, and status. Michelle received her PhD from the University of Chicago in 2010 and did her undergraduate and masters studies at the University of California Berkeley.

Ted Kaufman & Bruce Hiland - Co-authors of Retiring?: Your Next Chapter Is about Much More Than Money

Ted Kaufman is the former U S Senator from Delaware succeeding Senator Joseph Biden. He was Biden’s Chief of Staff for 19 years and headed up his 2020 Presidential Transition. He retired in 1995 and over the next 22 years taught courses at Duke University in the Law School, Fuqua School of Business, and Sanford School of Public Policy. At eighty-three, he and his wife, Lynne, celebrate their sixty-third anniversary this year.

Bruce Hiland's entire career - Brown University, Navy officer, Wharton MBA, McKinsey, CAO at Time Inc., 20 years of CEO-level consulting, four startups and considerable community service - focused on the challenges and opportunities people experienced in their work life. With that history, focusing on the challenges of succeeding at retirement came naturally. Now eighty-one, he and Ginny, his wife/partner of fifty-eight years, enjoy their family, deal with aging and are harvesting the fruits of their labor.

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For More on the Guests

Michelle Pannor Silver website

Retirement and Its Discontents: Why We Won't Stop Working, Even If We Can

Retiring? website Retiring?: Your Next Chapter Is about Much More Than Money

(100% of proceeds are donated to charity)

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Wise Quotes

On the Challenges of Retirement

"There's these great, airbrushed images that we see of retirees relaxing on the beach enjoying life to the fullest, finally having the free time to sit on a park bench and enjoy cruises, right? These are the very common images we see and the idea that we just have tons of leisure time to spend and do all these exciting things. And I think there's a real disconnect that people often feel, particularly when and the work that they've dedicated their lives to suddenly is not part of their daily routine. And so the sense of reality that my days are no longer structured or are no longer connected to what gave me a sense of worth, whether that was a paycheck or the work that one was doing, or the sense of accomplishment and the sense of acknowledgement for the work that you did, those dissipate.
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