The River Radius Podcast

Do you ever get those wild ideas about running a river in a unique way, but they just stay ideas, and you kinda always wish you had followed through?  This episode is about an idea that became a reality.  In November of 2001, 3 people zipped up their drysuits, pulled on their swim fins, strapped their dry bags to river boards, and slid into the Colorado River beginning a 300 mile trip where river boards were their only water craft.  Kelley Kalafatich, Julie Munger and Rebecca Rusch floated, swam, kicked and paddled their way in and down the Colorado River, successfully and joyfully, and they have a film documenting this story.  The film has just published and they joined The River Radius to have a reunion of sorts and tell their river boarding story 25 years later. 
 

THE FILM:  
"Three Women, Three Hundred Miles: Introduction by Meryl Streep"
Producer: Carr Clifton

GUESTS

Kelley Kalafatich TEDX
Kelley Kalafatich IRF

Julie Munger

Rebecca Rusch website
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Carr Clifton
 

ARTICLES

"Grand Adventure: River Boarding the Colorado"

"Three Women, 300 Miles"

RIVER BOARD

Carlson River Board at NRS

Churchhill Swimfins

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Ben Stookesberry paddles kayaks in his home state of Montana, and around the world. In his teen years he learned to make home movies showing off his rollerblading moves, and in college he learned to kayak. Today he blends the paddling and film making as he runs rivers in global settings. He has created deep and lasting friendships in his travels, and returns to rivers again and again, to paddle more stretches, to learn more, and sometimes to engage in protection work. In this episode, Ben talks through all of this with us, and goes into depth about his current paddling and film efforts on the Jatunyacu and Mulatos Rivers in Ecuador.

GUESTS
Ben Stookesberry
@benstookesberry

Bio @ Kokatat
Bio @ Jackson Kayak

Latest Film:  ¡Ay Chihuahua!

Diego Robles:  @ecuskayaker
 

RESOURCES

Ecuadorian Rivers Institute
@ecuadorianrivers

Steven Donzinger story

Savages, book, by Joe Kane
 

PADDLERS TO FOLLOW

@ecuskayaker (Diego)
@williehenkel
@wyatt_doyle
@salmonsourcetosea
@elizabeth.tobey
@brookehess
@oceansandmountains (Hailey)
@pedroolivakaiak
@riverratmountainkat
@mayuwarmikayak
@teepee_boys
 

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Podcasting is incredibly unique and fun work that has allowed me to meet so many rivers and river people. And podcasting is a job that I really just created for myself. Yes there are other podcasts and podcasters, but by nature of the work, we are all kind of hidden in quiet places behind microphones and editing screens, so finding a podcasting friend is so helpful. Ed Roberson has built the Mountain & Prairie Podcast and we have become colleagues and friends that can support each other when we have questions and challenges. For this episode, Ed and I decided to interview each other in a single episode and go deeper into our work, and publish it on both of our respective podcasts. Ed is a leading interviewer finding some of the most humble and impactful people of the American West and Ed is in the process of writing his own book. To start off 2026, here is an episode with two podcasters talking about our work, focus and plans for this coming season of episodes. 

GUESTS

Ed Roberson

Mountain & Prairie Podcast website

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@mtnprairie

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The Vjosa River in Albania is one of the largest of the last free running rivers in Europe and recently it was protected with the new Vjosa Wild River National Park. The Vjosa sources from the mountains of Greece and flows north through Albania where it meets the Adriatic Sea. Eco Albania has led much of the work to create this National Park and our guest Dr Olsi Nika founded Eco Albania.  Dr Nika tells us about this long and beautiful river in his home country, how people in Albania use this river, about life in Albania, and how they did the work to project this river. 

GUESTS

Dr Olsi Nika

RESOURCES

Vjosa River

Vjosa Wild River National Park

Eco Albania

Albania

Balkan Peninsula

Mediterranean Basin

Rewinding Europe

Video:  Blue Heart - Eco Albania

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Amidst a flourish of media about Paddle Tribal Waters, a new film has published from Oregon Public Broadcasting & Jessie Sears, giving focus to the 2025 source to sea run completed by the indigenous teens of PTW. The film, “First Descent: Kayaking the Klamath”, is there to meet the paddlers at the Pacific Ocean when they complete their journey, is with them along the river and the film also engages with the families of the paddlers to hear their perceptions of their kid’s work and pursuits. And finally, the film’s producer, Jessie Sears, is a member of the Karuk Tribe from the Klamath River basin, and by creating this film, she is exploring her own connections with this river and these families. 

The Film:  “First Descent: Kayaking the Klamath"

Jessie Sears professional website
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Jessie Sears at Oregon Public Broadcasting
Karuk Tribe

Oregon Public Broadcasting

Paddle Tribal Waters & Rios to Rivers

New York Times about Paddle Tribal Waters

Underscore Native News
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Swiftwater Films
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River Roots
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In the spring of 1980, nine-year-old Bridget Crocker, while playing next to her home river, fell from a downed tree into the cold swollen Snake River — a scary swim that initiated a deep, lifelong relationship with rivers and river people. This year in 2025 her memoir “The River’s Daughter” traces a thalweg of traumas, challenges and joys that played out in both her river life and her family life. Today Bridget hosts retreats and workshops on rivers, guides on special occasions, and is creating her dream life with her family. 

GUEST
Bridget Crocker
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Audio Book

RELATED EPISODES FROM THE RIVER RADIUS
Sexual Harassment in River Guide Culture
Queer River Guiding; 1 Professional's Experience
Tools for the River Guide
River Guide Unions
Endless Summer 1: The Guide Life
Endless Summer 2: A Guide's Sunset
Endless Summer 3: Guiding with a Healing Intention

ORGANIZATIONS FROM EPISODE
A Dash
America Outdoors
River Management Society
Responder Alliance
Whale Foundation
Redside Foundation

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Across the United States, 640 million acres of public land belong to all of us — rivers that still run wild, deep canyons, mountain ranges, plains, and deserts. Places where the wild things live. Places we can still visit, explore, and trust that it will be there for generations or an eon. But this year, the push to sell or transfer those lands has surfaced — sometimes openly, sometimes in quieter, less obvious ways. Why is this happening? Who’s behind it? And how do we, as citizens, stand up in simple, effective ways to keep public lands public? Our guest is Land Tawney, from American Hunters & Anglers — a man who comes from a long line of land conservationists. He brings both a historical lens and a practical action plan for keeping these 640 million acres wild, free, and truly ours.

GUEST

American Hunters and Anglers
@americanhuntersanglers

Land Tawney

Minority Outdoor Alliance
@minorityoutdooralliance
 

RESOURCES

202-224-3121
Switchboard US Capital (call, tell them your zip code, and that you want to speak with your Rep and/or Sen…you might have to call 3 times to get your Rep and both of your Senators)
 

Ambler Road
Roadless Rule, USFS
Attempts to sell public lands

PREVIOUS RIVER RADIUS EPISODES

Are Public Lands 4 $ale?

The Gila: River, Place, Family
(Sen Martin Heinrich)


ELECTED OFFICIALS & PUBLIC LANDS

US Senator Martin Heinrich, New Mexico
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US Representative Gabe Vasquez, New Mexico
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US Representative Betty McCollum, Minnesota
@repbettymccollum

US Representative Ryan Zinke, Montana
@repryanzinke

US Senator Steve Daines, Montana

US Senator Ron Wyden, Oregon
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US Senator Jeff Merkley, Oregon
@senjeffmerkley

US Senator John Hickenlooper, Colorado
@senatorhick

US Senator Susan Collins, Maine
@sensusancollins

US Representative Brian Fitzpatrick, Pennsylvania
@repbrianfitz

US Senator John Thune, South Dakota

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Dr. Adriana Martinez grew up in Eagle Pass, Texas, swimming and playing in the Rio Grande as a part of daily life. 10 years after getting her Ph.D and teaching university classes in fluvial geomorphology, her Texas hometown and home river became the iconic center of the modern immigration debate and the setting for the controversial river buoy border fence.  In this episode she tells us about the research she is conducting to learn how the buoy fence in the Rio Grande is impacting this river, and about growing up riverside to an international border. 

GUEST

Dr Adriana "Didi" Martinez
Professional Website
@thinkingriverthoughts

RESOURCES

Media on buoy fence w/Dr Martinez

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Tim Palmer has spent much of his life floating down, writing about, and photographing America’s rivers. With 34 books and scores of awards to his name (including the first-ever lifetime achievement award presented by American Rivers), he’s one of river conservation's most seasoned voices. In this episode, guest host Clark Tate joins Tim to talk about a recent run down the newly dam-free Klamath, his lifelong bond with Pennsylvania’s Youghiogheny River, the origins of America's flood management system, the benefits of giving rivers the room they need to run when the waters inevitably rise, and how increasingly severe floods both reveal our vulnerabilities and offer opportunities.

GUEST
Tim Palmer

Seek Higher Ground: The Natural Solution to Our Urgent Flooding Crisis
Youghiogheny: Appalachian River (updated edition)
Watching the River Run (photo book)

HOST
Clark Tate
@lclarktate

Valley Nissan
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Natural Systems Design

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This September brings the one year anniversary of Hurricane Helene and the powerful flooding that pounded Southern Appalachia. Incredible work has been to remove the bridges and cars and houses and trees that filled up the rivers. And more work continues today and for the next 18 months to clean up the remaining smaller trash. In this episode we learn about these details and how some communities did not flood because dams were removed prior to Helene, and how more dams are being removed post Helene.  Our guests are Hartwell Carson and Andy Hill from Mountain True in North Carolina. 

GUESTS

Hartwell Carson
Andy Hill
Mountain True
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PREVIOUS EPISODES ON HURRICANE HELENE

Part 1, Hurricane Helene in Appalachia, The Science
Part 2, Hurricane Helene in Appalachia, River Rescue

EPISODE ON RIVERS OF SOUTHERN APPALACHIA 

10 Rivers For 2025

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American Rivers: Hurricane Helene
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