You don’t have to storm-chase or race to the bottom to win in roofing. This episode proves it.

In this refreshingly honest episode of The Roofing Operating System Podcast, host Nick Peret (Founder of Better Boss) sits down with Chuck Allen, owner of Rio Blanco Roofing and host of the long-running podcast Keeping It Rio, to talk about what it really takes to build a roofing brand rooted in trust, consistency, and integrity.

Chuck shares how he’s grown his business—not through aggressive sales or storm-chasing—but by leading with character, communication, and community engagement. He also opens up about podcasting, personal health, and how staying grounded personally has helped him stay strong professionally.

If you're ready to build something more meaningful than just a revenue number, this is the episode for you.

✅ Why chasing every storm isn’t a real growth strategy

00:00 Mission-Driven Growth in Roofing

Better Boss — The Operating System for Contractors Who Want to Build Trust-Driven Brands That Outlast the Storm.

🔗 https://www.rioblancoroofing.net

Book your FREE Roofing Growth Audit to get a $1,500 strategy playbook for building a brand, streamlining your systems, and scaling without burning bridges.

#RoofingBrand #ChuckAllen #RioBlancoRoofing #BetterBoss #NickPeret #KeepingItRio #RoofingLeadership #TrustBasedRoofing #RoofingCRM #ContentMarketingForContractors #RoofingPodcast #RoofingWithoutStormChasing #ContractorReputation #EthicalRoofing #BrandBuildingInRoofing #RoofingOperatingSystemPodcast

💥 That’s a wrap on another episode of The Roofing Operating System™—America’s top-rated podcast for roofing software and scalable growth.

If today’s insights sparked just one idea to scale smarter or grow faster, imagine what a full strategy could do for your business.

👉 Head to mybetterboss.ai to access free tools, book a discovery call, or explore systems trusted by top roofing companies nationwide.

Don’t forget to follow the show, leave a 5-star review, and share it with another roofer ready to level up.

Until next time—build better, lead stronger, and scale like a boss.

What does it really take to run a $20M roofing business behind the scenes?

In this exclusive episode of The Roofing Operating System Podcast, host Nick Peret (Founder of Better Boss) sits down with Andy Hoover, co-owner of Built Right Roofing, to unpack the day-to-day systems, operational workflows, and leadership principles behind one of the fastest-scaling roofing businesses in America.

While Andy’s business partner Jake Hofer told the story of Built Right’s rise, this episode digs into how it’s all run—from the inside. You’ll hear exactly how Andy leads teams, integrates subcontractors, leverages tools like JobNimbus and AI, and maintains culture while scaling beyond $20M.

This is a masterclass in operational clarity, discipline, and smart growth.

✅ The real difference between growing and sustaining a $20M company

00:26 Meet Andy Hoover – The Operator Behind Built Right

Better Boss — The Operating System for Roofing Contractors Who Want to Run Lean, Scale Clean, and Lead With Clarity.

🔗 https://builtrightroofs.com

📍 Book your FREE Roofing Growth Audit and get a $1,500+ strategic roadmap to clean up your backend, automate your ops, and scale without burnout.

#RoofingOperations #BetterBoss #AndyHoover #BuiltRightRoofing #NickPeret #RoofingLeadership #JobNimbus #RoofingCRM #RoofingSystems #RoofingSOPs #SubcontractorManagement #AIInRoofing #RoofingEfficiency #RoofingOperatingSystemPodcast #ScalingContractorBusiness #RoofingTechStack

💥 That’s a wrap on another episode of The Roofing Operating System™—America’s top-rated podcast for roofing software and scalable growth.

If today’s insights sparked just one idea to scale smarter or grow faster, imagine what a full strategy could do for your business.

👉 Head to mybetterboss.ai to access free tools, book a discovery call, or explore systems trusted by top roofing companies nationwide.

Don’t forget to follow the show, leave a 5-star review, and share it with another roofer ready to level up.

Until next time—build better, lead stronger, and scale like a boss.

Most contractors burn out long before they cash out. Jonathon Broce didn’t. Here’s how.

In this powerful episode of The Roofing Operating System Podcast, host Nick Peret (Founder of Better Boss) sits down with Jonathon Broce, a roofer-turned-entrepreneur who has built—and sold—three roofing and home service companies without losing his identity, family, or mental health in the process.

From his early days in his father’s sheet metal shop to his current role as founder of Day 41 Thrive, Jonathon shares a masterclass in systems thinking, personal discipline, exit strategy, and sustainable leadership.

If you're building a business you may want to sell someday (or at least not be chained to), this episode is a blueprint for doing it the right way.

✅ How Jonathon built, scaled, and exited three companies

00:00 Presentation = Power in Sales

Better Boss — The Operating System for Roofing Contractors Who Want to Scale With Clarity, Sell With Strategy, and Lead Without Losing Their Life.

🔗 https://jonathonbroce.com/day41-thrive

Book your FREE Roofing Growth Audit and get a $1,500 custom strategy for scaling smart, cleaning up your backend, and building long-term enterprise value.

#RoofingExitPlan #BetterBoss #NickPeret #JonathonBroce #Day41Thrive #RoofingSuccess #ContractorLeadership #RoofingSystems #RoofingCRM #BuildAndSell #RoofingCompanyForSale #RoofingPodcast #RoofingOperatingSystemPodcast #RoofingWithDiscipline #SmartContractorGrowth

💥 That’s a wrap on another episode of The Roofing Operating System™—America’s top-rated podcast for roofing software and scalable growth.

If today’s insights sparked just one idea to scale smarter or grow faster, imagine what a full strategy could do for your business.

👉 Head to mybetterboss.ai to access free tools, book a discovery call, or explore systems trusted by top roofing companies nationwide.

Don’t forget to follow the show, leave a 5-star review, and share it with another roofer ready to level up.

Until next time—build better, lead stronger, and scale like a boss.

\What if you could copy the exact blueprint one young contractor used to build a $1M roofing company in his 20s? Now you can.

In this episode of The Roofing Operating System Podcast, host Nick Peret (Founder of Better Boss) sits down with Bailey Masters, founder of Top Tier Roofing, who launched his business at just 24 years old—and quickly scaled it to $1M+ in revenue.

Bailey shares his no-fluff journey from sales rep to business owner, including the mindset, marketing, team structure, and tech stack that made it possible. This is a must-watch episode for young, driven contractors who want to grow fast—and do it right.

✅ The core systems Bailey used to hit $1M+ in revenue

00:00 Bailey’s Start in Roofing Sales

Better Boss — The Operating System for Contractors Who Want to Scale Faster, Sell Smarter, and Build the Business They Always Wanted.

🔗 https://toptierroof.com

Book your FREE Roofing Growth Audit and get a $1,500 playbook to systemize your ops, convert more leads, and unlock your next revenue milestone.

#YoungContractors #RoofingPlaybook #BetterBoss #BaileyMasters #TopTierRoofing #NickPeret #RoofingStartup #RoofingLeadership #RoofingCRM #RoofingMarketing #GoogleLocalServicesAds #RoofingVendorRelations #ContractorMindset #RoofingPodcast #RoofingOperatingSystemPodcast #1MRoofingBusiness

💥 That’s a wrap on another episode of The Roofing Operating System™—America’s top-rated podcast for roofing software and scalable growth.

If today’s insights sparked just one idea to scale smarter or grow faster, imagine what a full strategy could do for your business.

👉 Head to mybetterboss.ai to access free tools, book a discovery call, or explore systems trusted by top roofing companies nationwide.

Don’t forget to follow the show, leave a 5-star review, and share it with another roofer ready to level up.

Until next time—build better, lead stronger, and scale like a boss.

Want to sell more roofing jobs without chasing storm claims or depending on insurance? This is the playbook.

In this episode of The Roofing Operating System Podcast, host Nick Peret (Founder of Better Boss) welcomes back industry thought leader Jen Silver for a bold conversation about where roofing sales is really going.

Jen shares her approach to building a modern, brand-led roofing business using financing, trust-based selling, and productized services—not just insurance playbooks. From roof rejuvenation to strategic storytelling, she explains how the best roofing companies in 2025 will win without being storm-dependent.

If you’re ready to grow with clarity, confidence, and consistent cash flow—this episode is your roadmap.

✅ Why insurance-based sales alone won't sustain future growth

00:00 Homeowner Expectations Have Changed—Have You?

Better Boss — The Operating System for Roofing Contractors Who Want to Lead With Brand, Scale With Systems, and Sell Without Storm Season Stress.

🔗 https://jensilver.co

Book your FREE Roofing Growth Audit to get a custom $1,500 roadmap for selling more, building brand trust, and closing jobs with financing instead of frustration.

#RoofingSales2025 #JenSilver #BetterBoss #NickPeret #RoofingBranding #FinancingForRoofing #RoofingWithoutInsurance #RoofingCRM #TrustBasedSelling #RoofRejuvenation #RoofingPodcast #RoofingSalesTraining #ModernRoofingSales #RoofingOperatingSystemPodcast #HomeownerEducation #FutureOfRoofing

💥 That’s a wrap on another episode of The Roofing Operating System™—America’s top-rated podcast for roofing software and scalable growth.

If today’s insights sparked just one idea to scale smarter or grow faster, imagine what a full strategy could do for your business.

👉 Head to mybetterboss.ai to access free tools, book a discovery call, or explore systems trusted by top roofing companies nationwide.

Don’t forget to follow the show, leave a 5-star review, and share it with another roofer ready to level up.

Until next time—build better, lead stronger, and scale like a boss.

Want to generate more qualified roofing leads through content—not discounts? Here’s how.

In this tactical episode of The Roofing Operating System Podcast, host Nick Peret (Founder of Better Boss) sits down with Chad Lubinski, content creator and strategist for contractors, to reveal the exact social media playbook roofing companies are using to attract inbound leads in 2025.

From TikTok to long-form YouTube, Chad shares how to build a system for relatable, repeatable content that builds trust and fills your pipeline. You’ll learn how roofers are using video, podcasting, brand personality, and tools like SocialBee and vidIQ to stop chasing leads—and start attracting them.

If you’re serious about scaling your brand online without being cringe or corporate, this is your roadmap.

✅ The content types that actually convert for roofers

00:00 The Social Media Lottery: Why Roofers Need a Plan

Better Boss — The Operating System for Roofing Contractors Who Want to Generate More Leads, Automate Sales, and Grow With Content.

📸 Instagram

Book your FREE Roofing Growth Audit and get a custom playbook to streamline your tech stack, tighten your follow-up, and close more jobs—faster.

#RoofingMarketing #RoofingContentStrategy #SocialMediaForRoofers #BetterBoss #NickPeret #ChadLubinski #RoofingBranding #RoofingLeadGeneration #RoofingPodcast #ContentMarketingForContractors #RoofingOperatingSystemPodcast #TikTokForRoofers #YouTubeMarketingRoofing #2025RoofingStrategy

💥 That’s a wrap on another episode of The Roofing Operating System™—America’s top-rated podcast for roofing software and scalable growth.

If today’s insights sparked just one idea to scale smarter or grow faster, imagine what a full strategy could do for your business.

👉 Head to mybetterboss.ai to access free tools, book a discovery call, or explore systems trusted by top roofing companies nationwide.

Don’t forget to follow the show, leave a 5-star review, and share it with another roofer ready to level up.

Until next time—build better, lead stronger, and scale like a boss.

What happens when a 7-year-old grabs the mic on a roofing business podcast? Pure gold.

In this fun and family-centered mini-episode of The Roofing Operating System Podcast, host Nick Peret is joined by Jordan, the 7-year-old son of Jake Hofer, co-owner of Built Right Roofing.

Jordan shares his hilarious and heartfelt perspective on life with a roofer dad, his passion for Pokémon, and why he thinks YouTube and podcasting are the future of roofing marketing. It’s a quick episode full of laughs, insight—and a reminder that legacy businesses start at home.

Perfect for contractors who are building not just for profits, but for their families and future.

✅ A behind-the-scenes look at a roofing family in action

00:00 Meet Jordan – Built Right’s Youngest Future Leader

Better Boss — The Operating System for Contractors Building Businesses Their Kids Will Be Proud Of.

🔗 https://builtrightroofs.com

Book your FREE Roofing Growth Audit to get a legacy-minded roadmap for scaling your team, streamlining your systems, and creating long-term stability.

#FamilyBusiness #BetterBoss #RoofingPodcast #LegacyBuilders #BuiltRightRoofing #NickPeret #RoofingWithPurpose #RoofingCulture #NextGenContractors #PodcastTakeover #JordanTakesOver #ContractorLife #RoofingInspiration #WorkLifeBalance #RoofingOperatingSystemPodcast

💥 That’s a wrap on another episode of The Roofing Operating System™—America’s top-rated podcast for roofing software and scalable growth.

If today’s insights sparked just one idea to scale smarter or grow faster, imagine what a full strategy could do for your business.

👉 Head to mybetterboss.ai to access free tools, book a discovery call, or explore systems trusted by top roofing companies nationwide.

Don’t forget to follow the show, leave a 5-star review, and share it with another roofer ready to level up.

Until next time—build better, lead stronger, and scale like a boss.

$0 to $20M in 5 Years | How Built Right Roofing Scaled With Systems, Sales, and Culture

In this powerhouse episode of The Roofing Operating System Podcast, host Nick Peret (Founder of Better Boss) sits down with Jake Hofer, co-founder of Built Right Roofing, to break down how his team scaled from scratch to $20 million in annual revenue—in just five years.

From raw startup days in the Dakotas to a system-driven, team-led organization, Jake unpacks the real drivers of exponential growth: sales structure, company culture, leadership, and process. If you’re a contractor chasing your next milestone—$1M, $5M, or $20M+—this episode is a blueprint worth studying.

This is not theory. This is a real story with real numbers—and proven tactics.

✅ How to build a scalable roofing company from scratch

00:00 Starting From Scratch — Early Business Strategy

Better Boss — The Operating System for Roofing Contractors Who Want to Scale Smarter, Lead Stronger, and Build Profitable Companies with Less Stress.

📍 Book a FREE Roofing Growth Audit with Better Boss and get a proven blueprint tailored to your team, market, and goals.

🔗 https://builtrightroofs.com

#RoofingBusinessGrowth #BetterBoss #NickPeret #JakeHofer #BuiltRightRoofing #RoofingSales #RoofingLeadership #ContractorSuccess #RoofingSystems #HowToGrowARoofingBusiness #RoofingPodcast #RoofingCulture #RoofingCRM #RoofingMarketing #RoofingOperatingSystemPodcast #ScaleSmarter

💥 That’s a wrap on another episode of The Roofing Operating System™—America’s top-rated podcast for roofing software and scalable growth.

If today’s insights sparked just one idea to scale smarter or grow faster, imagine what a full strategy could do for your business.

👉 Head to mybetterboss.ai to access free tools, book a discovery call, or explore systems trusted by top roofing companies nationwide.

Don’t forget to follow the show, leave a 5-star review, and share it with another roofer ready to level up.

Until next time—build better, lead stronger, and scale like a boss.

Which Roofing Business Model Will Work Best for Your Market?

In this episode of The Roofing Operating System Podcast, host Nick Peret (Founder of Better Boss) is joined by roofing strategist and multi-market operator Allen Mick to unpack the top 3 roofing business models that contractors use to build profitable, scalable companies.

From residential retail to commercial service to storm restoration, Allen walks through each model's pros, pitfalls, margins, and operational challenges—plus how to choose the right model (or hybrid approach) based on your goals, market, and skill set.

Whether you're just getting started or refining your current company, this episode gives you the roadmap to pick and scale the right roofing business model.

✅ The major differences between retail, storm, and commercial roofing models

00:00 Intro – Allen Mick on Roofing Business Models

Better Boss — The Operating System Built for Roofing Contractors Who Want to Scale Smarter, Sell Faster, and Operate With Clarity.

Book a FREE Roofing Growth Audit and get a $1,500-value custom roadmap tailored to your revenue goals, ops model, and tech stack.

📸 Instagram

#RoofingBusinessModels #BetterBoss #AllenMick #RoofingStartupTips #RoofingGrowth #RoofingOperations #RoofingPodcast #NickPeret #RoofingOperatingSystem #StormRestorationBusiness #RoofingRecurringRevenue #HowToStartARoofingBusiness #RoofingBrandStrategy #CommercialRoofingSuccess #RetailRoofingModel

💥 That’s a wrap on another episode of The Roofing Operating System™—America’s top-rated podcast for roofing software and scalable growth.

If today’s insights sparked just one idea to scale smarter or grow faster, imagine what a full strategy could do for your business.

👉 Head to mybetterboss.ai to access free tools, book a discovery call, or explore systems trusted by top roofing companies nationwide.

Don’t forget to follow the show, leave a 5-star review, and share it with another roofer ready to level up.

Until next time—build better, lead stronger, and scale like a boss.

Thinking about selling your roofing company? Here’s exactly how to do it right—and walk away with maximum value.

In this expert-packed episode of The Roofing Operating System Podcast, host Nick Peret (Founder of Better Boss) sits down with Claudio Vilas, founder of The Roofing Biz Broker, to map out the step-by-step process of preparing your roofing company for a profitable exit.

From business valuation and accrual accounting to buyer types, due diligence, and industry myths, Claudio shares what you need to know to sell your business the right way—whether your goal is retirement, a new venture, or simply unlocking what you’ve built.

If you plan to grow and sell someday (or just want to be ready), this is the episode you can’t afford to miss.

✅ What buyers actually look for in roofing companies (hint: it’s not revenue alone)

00:00 What Increases or Decreases a Roofing Company’s Value

Better Boss — The Operating System for Roofing Contractors Who Want to Grow Smarter, Run Cleaner, and Sell Bigger.

🔗 https://theroofingbizbroker.com

Book your FREE Roofing Growth Audit to get a $1,500 exit-readiness roadmap that benchmarks your business, cleans up your systems, and gets you buyer-ready.

#SellMyRoofingCompany #RoofingExitStrategy #RoofingValuation #ClaudioVilas #BetterBoss #NickPeret #RoofingCRM #RoofingBusinessForSale #RoofingLeadership #RoofingOperatingSystemPodcast #RoofingPrivateEquity #RoofingMergersAndAcquisitions #RoofingSuccess #ScaleAndSell #ExitPlanningForContractorsce.

💥 That’s a wrap on another episode of The Roofing Operating System™—America’s top-rated podcast for roofing software and scalable growth.

If today’s insights sparked just one idea to scale smarter or grow faster, imagine what a full strategy could do for your business.

👉 Head to mybetterboss.ai to access free tools, book a discovery call, or explore systems trusted by top roofing companies nationwide.

Don’t forget to follow the show, leave a 5-star review, and share it with another roofer ready to level up.

Until next time—build better, lead stronger, and scale like a boss.