In this high-energy episode of the None of Your Business Podcast, Michael Greenfield and Ushy Schwartz bring you two powerful conversations with Joseph Gestetner and Laibel Schwartz—two masters in their craft who have taken very different paths to the top, but both share one thing: the ability to own every room they walk into.

First up, Joseph Gestetner, CMO of CBS (Centralized Business Services), opens up about his journey through the healthcare world, trade shows, and the power of vulnerability. From running a high-performing back office to launching a music career, Joseph proves that you can be strategic and emotional, business-savvy and soulful, all at once. He shares why building real relationships—not just collecting business cards—is everything, and how sharing his most personal story publicly helped him grow both professionally and personally.

Then we sit down with Laibel Schwartz, founder of Laibel Schwartz Photography, who turned a small wedding photography gig into a high-end branding and visual storytelling powerhouse. Laibel reveals how he creates impact-driven content for major brands, solves real business problems through video, and why authenticity is the most powerful marketing tool of all. His creative philosophy? People don’t want perfect—they want real.

Whether you're a startup founder, a healthcare operator, a content creator, or someone just trying to figure out your next big move—this episode is packed with raw insights, strategy, and inspiration to help you level up in your business and your mindset.

Tap in for real talk, honest laughs, and a behind-the-scenes look at what it takes to build influence, master your craft, and turn creativity into impact.

00:00 Welcome and Introduction

00:37 The Importance of Nerves

02:13 Starting the Podcast Journey

04:32 Building a Photography Business

10:44 Transition to Corporate and Headshots

11:48 Video Production and Client Success

13:41 Challenges and Strategies in Video Production

16:09 Connecting with Clients Through Headshots

17:45 Recent Projects and Industry Insights

21:01 Marketing Nursing Homes: A Personal Journey

22:22 The Impact of Video Marketing

24:19 Entering a New Industry

24:53 Understanding Client Objectives

26:20 Changing the Narrative in Healthcare

28:03 Networking and Trade Shows

31:24 The Power of Sharing Personal Stories

35:53 Exploring Personal Passions

40:22 Advice for Newcomers in the Industry