In a world where sermons can be downloaded from any church at the touch of a button, it's easy to follow "celebrity pastors" pastors who are outside your denomination, pastors who don't even know you. There are books and journals dedicated to theories of what makes a good sermon. What makes a sermon difference than a "Ted Talk" or motivational speaker? 

Katie and Gretchen decided to interview 2 different pastors on how they think about sermons, and this is the first interview with Rev. Tim Koch. Tim talks about thinking about sermons like food, and assessing what kinds of food we are taking in.

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