Hotel Mars, Tuesday, March 24, 2026

John Batchelor, Dr. David Livingston with guest Rahil Makadia

This episodes of Hotel Mars features Rahil Makadia, who with his team, has been working the DART Mission data regarding the successful planetary defense impactor mission launched back in 2021 intercepting a binary asteroid the following year, 2022.

The successful and violent impact has greatly helped the emerging field of planetary defense for Earth. Our guest, Rahil Makadia, tells us about his research and for the first time let’s us know that we actually by a small amount changed the orbit of the target asteroid.

During this Hotel Mars episode, our guest explains how it was done, responds to questions based on the physics of impact and the orbits of Earth plus the asteroid, all of which combined for remarkable intercept and impact. DART is a successful mission. Studying what actually happened upon impact will as you will hear, help us to do a better job of protecting Earth from what may one day emerge as a very serious threat to our existence. when slamming into an asteroid to better protect our planet.

This is a combined two segment Hotel Mars program.

The Space Show Presents THE Space Show AI Program, Sunday, 3-22-26

Quick Summary:

This was a Sunday Space Show Zoom program focused on how our regular Space Show panel members use and work with AI in their professional and personal lives. Manuel Cuba in Luxembourg shared his experience using AI tools like ChatGPT and Copilot for work in the European space industry, particularly for analyzing documents and comparing system engineering standards between European and US practices. Phil discussed his moderate use of AI for coding, educational purposes, and content management, while expressing caution about relying on AI for critical research. John Jossy described using Grok Premium for summarizing scientific articles and creating content for his blog. The discussion covered various AI platforms including Claude, ChatGPT, and Gemini, with participants sharing their experiences with prompt engineering and the limitations they’ve encountered. The conversation also touched on AI’s role in space applications like data centers, with participants discussing technical challenges around cooling systems and the economic viability of space-based data centers. The panel concluded by discussing concerns about AI customer service systems and their frustrating user experiences, particularly with phone support and automated chat systems.

Detailed Summary:

The meeting began with casual conversation about the movie “Project Hail Mary” and its reception, before transitioning to a discussion about AI usage. Manuel shared that in Luxembourg’s fund industry, AI is being used to streamline processes and create automated workflows, though human oversight remains important. The group discussed cultural differences in AI adoption and concerns about job displacement due to AI implementation. David announced upcoming show changes, including a new Tuesday time slot at 6 PM Pacific and an upcoming interview with Trans Astra’s CEO Joel Sersell about asteroid grabbing plans. Manuel shared his experience using AI tools like ChatGPT and Copilot for work-related tasks, particularly in document analysis and system engineering standards comparison. He explained how proper prompt engineering has enhanced his ability to extract relevant information from large documents and compare European and US standards. Manuel noted some limitations, such as occasional inaccuracies in business assessments and challenges with multilingual support, though English remains the primary language for space-related documents.

We discussed their experiences with AI tools like ChatGPT, Claude, and Copilot. Manuel shared that he uses AI for work-related tasks and occasional personal translations, while being cautious about its reliability. Philip described his journey from early AI experiments to current uses, including coding projects and educational purposes, though he still doesn’t fully trust AI for critical work. Ryan expressed being “all-in” on AI, using it for server troubleshooting, code reviews, and personal assistant tasks, while Marshall raised concerns about students using AI to cheat by simply rephrasing existing content from Wikipedia. The discussion highlighted a spectrum of AI adoption across the group, from casual use to full integration into professional workflows.

David shared his experience using AI tools like Claude, ChatGPT, Gemini, and Grok for research and due diligence, particularly in medical and engineering contexts. He emphasized the importance of having prior knowledge about a topic to avoid misinformation and highlighted the need to ask precise questions across different AI platforms for consistent results. David noted that while AI tools can be helpful, users should exercise caution and verify information with experts, especially for critical decisions. He also mentioned the “hooking” behavior of ChatGPT, which can lead users down long conversational paths always suggesting more and better just around the corner.

John Jossy discussed his use of Grok Premium ($7/month) and other AI tools like ChatGPT and Claude for summarizing scientific articles for his blog. He shared experiences with prompt engineering and creating scripts to find open-source space settlement research, noting the need to refine prompts to avoid redundant references. David shared his experience using AI to understand complex financial concepts from the All-In podcast, particularly regarding NVIDIA’s involvement in orbital data centers. The discussion concluded with a brief mention of NVIDIA’s progress in making chips for orbital data centers and the challenges of cooling in space.

We talked about the economic viability and technical challenges of AI in stock trading, with participants sharing their experiences and opinions on using AI tools for investment decisions. The conversation then shifted to data center cooling challenges in space, where Philip explained that while the technical solution exists, the main challenge is economic due to the mass required for radiators. John Hunt and Marshall contributed insights about temperature requirements for chip operation and radiation efficiency, with Marshall noting that current chip temperatures remain manageable for space cooling solutions.

The group discussed the challenges of space-based data centers, focusing on cooling constraints and political factors. Philip explained that Earth-based data centers have an advantage in cooling efficiency, while David highlighted the political complexities of energy sourcing on Earth and the limitations of AI in calculating human risk factors for space-based projects. Marshall and others noted the potential for political challenges and misuse of technology, with John Hunt suggesting that China might have an advantage due to greater control over political backlash.

The group discussed the potential biases in AI models, particularly those developed in China, when analyzing politically sensitive topics. David emphasized that while Chinese AI might excel in technical and quantitative analyses, its outputs could be skewed when dealing with intangible factors or politically sensitive subjects. Philip shared an anecdote about bypassing censorship in Chinese AI to uncover historical events, highlighting the potential for bias. The discussion concluded with agreement that while AI can be valuable for specific quantitative analyses, it should not replace human expertise and judgment, especially in fields like engineering.

The group discussed engineering margins and safety factors in design, particularly in the context of earthquake resistance and aircraft development. Marshall explained that while AI can help process data for complex calculations like soil behavior during earthquakes, the accuracy of equations remains crucial, and engineers often build in safety margins due to uncertainties in predictions. David shared insights about the F-35’s recent incident with an Iranian missile, highlighting how redundancy and over-engineering likely contributed to the plane’s ability to land safely, though specific details remain classified. John Hunt provided context from his experience in aircraft survivability analyses, emphasizing the importance of redundancy in system design and the challenges adversaries face in overcoming advanced defenses.

The group discussed the impact of AI on employment and society. David expressed concerns about job displacement, particularly in driving and other manual tasks, while Marshall suggested that robots and human labor would eventually reach an economic equilibrium. Phil viewed AI as generally positive, noting potential improvements in daily life like reduced time on hold with customer service, though he emphasized the need to help people transition to new roles. John Jossy argued that AI would create new jobs in areas like data centers, while Philip proposed rewarding various forms of valuable contributions to society rather than implementing universal basic income.

David expressed frustration with AI-powered business customer service systems, citing issues with unresponsive chatbots and poor voice recognition systems that often require multiple attempts to reach a human representative. Marshall shared similar experiences, including a recent problem with changing an electric bill address that took 30 minutes to resolve. Phil suggested using AI-generated letters as a workaround for certain issues, though David noted that this approach can take weeks to receive a response. The discussion highlighted concerns about companies prioritizing AI solutions over human customer service, with David arguing that these systems often result from cost-cutting measures rather than genuine improvements to customer experience.

The group discussed the impact and challenges of AI in daily life. Phil expressed concerns about getting desired changes and reducing unwanted aspects like junk mail and frequent OS updates. Marshall suggested using a “subsidize more, tax less” approach for unwanted systems like robocalls. Dr. shared their experience using AI for email improvements and research, noting its effectiveness but emphasizing the importance of proofreading AI-generated content. Marshall reflected on the distinction between AI algorithms and true intelligence, while Phil encouraged a balanced perspective on AI’s overall positive impact. David shared insights from using self-driving cars, highlighting their safety, adherence to traffic laws, and reliability, though noting limitations in certain situations.

The group discussed upcoming show schedules and technical issues. David shared his experience with self-driving cars and proposed the idea of licensing celebrity voices for autonomous vehicles. The team agreed to help promote their YouTube videos by upvoting and commenting on them. The group briefly discussed the challenges and potential of autonomous vehicles, with John Jossy sharing an anecdote about his son’s experience with an autonomous vehicle at a startup. They concluded by discussing show timing preferences, with Sunday shows drawing the largest live audience but having scheduling challenges.

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The Space Show Presents Bob Zimmerman, Tuesday, 3-24-26!

Quick Summary:

This space show program focused primarily on NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman’s comprehensive restructuring of the Artemis lunar program, which includes three phases of lunar surface operations, the pausing of the Lunar Gateway project, and increased reliance on private sector partnerships. Bob Zimmerman provided detailed analysis of the new plan, noting its logical structure and focus on engineering rather than just science, while expressing some concerns about NASA’s potential over-involvement in private sector operations. The discussion also covered NASA’s plans for a nuclear-powered Mars mission, the status of commercial space station development, and current progress on lunar spacesuits and rovers. Other topics included China’s and India’s space station programs, the potential for lunar water ice at the poles, and the broader implications for commercial space development and launch capabilities.

Detailed Summary:

Our guest, Bob Zimmerman, focused on discussing NASA’s recent announcements, particularly regarding the Artemis program and plans for a nuclear reactor on Mars. Bob shared his experience watching an 8-hour NASA TV broadcast about these plans. The group also discussed a potential Friday show featuring Frank White, who is seeking funding to go to space on a Blue Origin rocket, and mentioned an upcoming Sunday interview with the CEO of TransAstra, who is working on asteroid retrieval projects.

Bob discussed his review of NASA presentations, focusing on Jared Isaacman’s restructuring of the Artemis lunar program. He explained that the program has been reorganized into three phases: initial infrastructure establishment, foundational components, and long-term human occupancy. The new plan pauses the Luna Gateway project and aims to phase out SLS, with private sector involvement in launch facilities. He noted that the first manned mission is planned for 2028, and the third phase is expected to begin around 2033.

Bob detailed NASA’s plans to phase out SLS and transition to private sector alternatives like SpaceX’s Starship and Blue Origin’s New Glenn. He explained NASA’s approach to restructure the ISS program through an “evolutionary assembly” design involving a core module with multiple docking ports, which could benefit companies like Axiom. He also covered NASA’s plans for nuclear propulsion to Mars, though he expressed skepticism about the ambitious timeline to launch by the end of 2028, noting this would be largely a government-led project.

Bob discussed NASA’s new approach under Administrator Isaacman, emphasizing the focus on using private sector resources more efficiently rather than wasting money on previous programs like SLS and Luna Gateway. He explained that Congress had already approved the reconfiguration through the NASA authorization bill, giving Isaacman significant freedom to implement changes. Our guest expressed growing admiration for Isaacman’s political strategy in gaining congressional support while moving the program away from inefficiencies, though he noted concerns about potential budgetary issues and congressional interference.

Our Wisdom Team discussed NASA’s lunar exploration plans and budget allocation. Ajay and Bob agreed that while the overall $25 billion NASA budget was sufficient, previous waste on projects like Orion had created opportunities for reallocation toward more productive initiatives. Bob noted that while the third phase plans were preliminary and might change, the overall approach was intelligent and step-by-step, with NASA recognizing that early stages could evolve significantly. The discussion also covered Intuitive Machines’ lunar lander redesign and Jared Isaacman’s ambitious plan for 30 unmanned lunar landers over three years, though Robert expressed skepticism about meeting this timeline given past commercial landing failures.

Bob discussed the potential minimal opposition to a new lunar program that relies on private sector development rather than NASA projects. He noted that while the South Pole was mentioned as a potential landing site, NASA is also considering alternatives, particularly easier locations near the equator for early missions. He also expressed concerns about the upcoming Artemis II mission, describing it as out of sequence and potentially risky, while emphasizing that the new program announced appears to prioritize engineering over science.

Robert discussed NASA’s new lunar program, emphasizing its focus on engineering rather than science, which represents a significant cultural shift. He noted that while the program builds on existing concepts, the overall structure is more coherent and designed to inspire public interest in space exploration. He expressed concerns about NASA’s potential over-involvement in private sector projects, worrying this could lead to empire building and reduce private sector innovation. The team debated whether NASA’s involvement in oversight roles was necessary for congressional reporting or could potentially stifle private sector development.

The group discussed the upcoming Artemis II flight, scheduled for April 1st with a six-day launch window through April 6th. Bob explained that while lunar missions have relatively short windows, they are more flexible than Mars missions which only occur every two years. The discussion also touched on the technical considerations for lunar launches, including optimal lighting conditions for landing site visibility and the need to avoid nighttime during extended missions. The conversation concluded with a brief discussion about TransAstra planned asteroid mission, which our guest noted was in early stages and preliminary in nature.

Robert and Ajay discussed the technical details of nuclear propulsion systems, clarifying the differences between nuclear thermal and nuclear electric propulsion. Robert expressed skepticism about the timeline for the SR1 mission, noting that deploying helicopters on Mars would be a significant challenge. The conversation then shifted to the presence of water ice at the Moon’s South Pole, with Robert sharing recent data suggesting lower quantities than previously expected. Ajay suggested that looking below the surface might provide more information, and the discussion ended with David asking about the commercial activities planned for lunar bases.

Zimmerman explained that NASA’s lunar base program is primarily government-funded and not focused on profitability, but its goal is to stimulate private sector involvement in space, potentially leading to commercial activities like data centers or manufacturing. He discussed the potential of AI data centers in space, noting that while many such projects may fail due to over-investment, the demand for launch services will drive significant innovation in the rocket industry. He emphasized that the paradigm shift in space travel came with the successful landing of a rocket’s first stage, which has paved the way for reusable rockets and lower costs, ultimately benefiting the development of space stations and other commercial activities in space.

Bob provided an overview of global space station developments, highlighting China’s government-run program, India’s efforts to build its own station with potential private enterprise involvement, and Russia’s ambitious but potentially delayed plans. He discussed NASA’s five competing American space station projects and their potential integration with a core module concept proposed by Isaac Man. The group also addressed lunar exploration progress, including the development of spacesuits by Axiom and rovers by various private companies, with NASA considering how to coordinate these technologies for future lunar missions.

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The Space Show Presents John Hunt, Tuesday, 3-17-26

Quick Summary:

The Tuesday Space Show focused on UAP (Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena) and UFO discussions, with John Hunt as our UAP specialist. The conversation covered various topics including the mysterious disappearance of General McCaslin in Albuquerque, potential government disclosure efforts, and historical cases like Roswell. John explained his personal journey into UFO research, starting with skepticism but becoming convinced of the phenomenon’s reality based on credible witness accounts and government behavior. The discussion touched on various theories about alien technology, government cover-ups, and the potential impact of disclosure on society, with participants debating whether public reaction would be panic or acceptance. The group also explored historical cases, whistleblowers, and the challenges of verifying UAP claims, concluding that while more information is available now than in the past, determining the true nature of these phenomena remains elusive.

Detailed Summary:

John explained how his interest in UFOs developed over time, initially influenced by a former roommate and later piqued by a book by Leslie Kean featuring insights from political figures like John Podesta. His curiosity deepened after studying credible cases and documents, including the Twining memo and works by Dolan, leading him to conclude that some unexplained phenomena cannot be dismissed as illusions or hoaxes. John also noted that government behavior regarding UFOs suggests they are taking the subject seriously but controlling information, and he mentioned the importance of crash retrieval cases as potential proof of UFOs.

Our team discussed the mysterious disappearance of a former General from Wright-Patterson Laboratories in Albuquerque, New Mexico. The General, who had a background in aerospace engineering and was involved in various military projects including GPS and space-based laser programs, went missing while hiking with a gun but left his phone and wallet behind. While the official investigation treats it as a missing persons case, John suggested a potential connection to UAP programs due to the General’s background and the timing following the Obama-Trump UAP discussion. The search involves local authorities, FBI, and Air Force OSI, though no evidence of foul play has been found despite extensive searching for three weeks.

John discussed a Missouri congressman’s visit to a naval aircraft testing site at Pax River, where he allegedly searched for facilities mentioned in a whistleblower document called “Immaculate Constellation.” The document, authored by Matthew Brown, revealed details about a classified program involving triangular aircraft and was eventually entered into congressional record. David questioned the feasibility of Trump’s potential executive order to disclose UFO records, expressing skepticism about the government’s ability to locate and release all relevant information, particularly given the complexity of data spread across various special access programs.

We talked about global sightings of unidentified objects and the U.S.’s apparent control over information about them. John suggested that Russia and China might have the most information due to their large land masses, while David questioned how such a global lid could be maintained on the subject. Marshall proposed a theory that the U.S. could be creating fake UFO sightings as a form of psychological warfare against other countries. The conversation also touched on specific incidents, including the Roswell case and a recent event in Brazil, where a crashed object was reportedly witnessed by local authorities and civilians.

John discussed the case of Bob Lazar, expressing skepticism about his claims due to concerns about his background and security clearance. He suggested the story could be disinformation, though acknowledged some evidence exists. When asked about current disclosure prospects, John also expressed doubt about Trump making a major announcement, noting the need for formal executive action. The discussion also touched on Dr. James Greer, with John acknowledging his historical contributions but questioning some of his more recent claims.

John discussed a case involving Admiral Wilson, who was told about a secret reverse engineering program of an object not made by humankind but was ultimately warned not to pursue it further to protect his career. Ajay shared historical and mythological stories from India about beings from other worlds, suggesting a potential connection between ancient accounts and current phenomena. John acknowledged the existence of similar stories and beliefs throughout history, including reports of strange airships in the late 1800s and early 1900s, which could indicate that such encounters may not be entirely new.

Ajay raised questions about the sudden advancement of humans compared to other species, speculating about possible extraterrestrial influence or genetic manipulation. John mentioned theories of genetic intervention by others, including Richard Dolan, but clarified he was not claiming these theories as fact. John also discussed skepticism within the UFO community regarding the ability to duplicate recovered alien technology, using historical examples to illustrate the point that possession does not necessarily mean replication capability. The conversation was briefly interrupted due to technical issues with John’s connection, after which he resumed discussing the TR-3B and its potential connection to a previous hypothetical vehicle, the TR-3A.

John expressed skepticism about claims of secret aircraft and free energy technology, arguing that such concepts don’t align with known physics or practical implementation. The group discussed the Aurora program, with John suggesting it may have been a real black program involving pulse jet technology that was discontinued in the early 1990s due to budget cuts. Ajay shared his expertise in hypersonic technology, expressing doubt about the feasibility of the Aurora program and noting that any successful technology would likely have been developed by other nations by now. Ajay also revealed that the SR72 design, which he developed, was later adapted by Lockheed without proper credit or compensation.

The group discussed the concept of “white world” programs versus “black world” programs, with John explaining that white world programs are publicly acknowledged while black world programs remain unacknowledged. David questioned why there would be such extensive effort to cover up potential evidence of extraterrestrials, suggesting it might indicate something significant needs to be hidden. It was suggested that government reluctance to disclose information about aliens might be due to concerns about causing mass hysteria, though David expressed skepticism about this explanation given current political climate and public trust in government. Marshall contributed by noting that people tend to want to believe interesting stories like those about aliens, making it difficult to dismiss such claims.

The group discussed government behavior regarding unexplained phenomena, with John suggesting that the government’s secrecy indicates they believe there is something significant to hide. They examined various reported crashes and incidents, including the OSAP program from 2004 and Dr. Eric Davis’s involvement as a witness to classified information. The discussion also covered claims about psionic abilities and alien encounters, including Michael Herrera’s account of a landing incident in Indonesia in 2009. The conversation ended with a debate about whether disclosure of alien contact would cause panic among scientists and religious communities.

The group discussed the potential impact of revealing information about extraterrestrial life. John shared stories about government officials being briefed on UFOs, including a former Assistant Secretary of the Navy who claimed to have been told about aliens. The participants debated whether public disclosure would cause social disruption, with Marshall arguing that while some might profit from panic, most people wouldn’t be significantly affected. The conversation also touched on the credibility of UAP phenomena and the challenges of verifying evidence in today’s world, particularly given concerns about government transparency and the potential for AI-generated fake evidence.

Special thanks to our sponsors:American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Helix Space in Luxembourg, Celestis Memorial Spaceflights, Astrox Corporation, Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University, The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy, The Atlantis Project, and Artless Entertainment

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Phil Swan, Sunday, 3-15-25

The Space Show Presents Phil Swan on Launching Orbital Data Centers from The Moon are ready!

Quick Summary:

The meeting focused on the feasibility and implications of building data centers on the moon, with Phil Swan as the main speaker discussing the concept and addressing various technical and economic challenges. Participants explored the potential of mass drivers for launching data centers from the moon, the advantages of lunar manufacturing, and the role of nuclear power in supporting such endeavors. The discussion touched on the competition between space-based and Earth-based solutions, regulatory considerations, and the current state of AI companies’ involvement in space initiatives. The conversation also highlighted the limitations of current technology and the need for further development in areas like mass drivers, nuclear power, and supply chain logistics.

Detailed Summary:

Early on we discussed the origin of the term “mass driver,” which was attributed to O’Neill who engineered the concept beyond its initial science fiction depiction in Heinlein’s work. Phil Swan, the featured guest, presented a detailed analysis of building data centers on the moon and launching them into orbit using mass drivers, noting the rapid growth of Earth-based data centers and the potential for space-based solutions. The discussion highlighted the technical challenges and opportunities of space-based data centers, with Swan emphasizing the need to critically evaluate the feasibility of such concepts.

Phil discussed the potential for moving data centers to space, highlighting the need to rebuild supply chains and the advantages of escaping Earth’s regulatory burdens. He emphasized that data centers, as corporate entities, seek survival and growth, considering factors such as resource competition, popularity, and geopolitical risks. He mentioned Elon Musk’s point about the continuous sunlight in space, which Phil addressed by explaining the trade-offs of solar panels in space, including decreased efficiency and shorter lifespan due to heat and radiation. Phil concluded that while space-based solar power might not be as cost-effective as Earth-based options, it could still offer advantages for data centers in terms of continuous energy supply.

The Space Show Wisdom Team discussed the feasibility and implications of space-based data centers. Phil explained that while Earth-based maintenance requires manual labor, robotic systems could easily handle repairs in space, making satellite breakdowns manageable. He suggested placing data centers in high orbits beyond geosynchronous range, potentially launched from the Moon, to minimize interference with astronomy while optimizing economic and communication benefits. Our guest also outlined the key cost components of data centers, emphasizing that the cost of atom rearrangement (such as refining materials and manufacturing chips) would be similar regardless of location, while the cost of transporting atoms to space could be significant.

The group discussed the feasibility of semiconductor manufacturing on the moon, with Phil arguing that while it would be expensive, it’s not unrealistic given current advancements in Earth-based facilities. They explored various mass driver technologies, including railguns, coil guns, and screw launch systems, with Phil explaining how these could be optimized for launching satellites from the moon. Marshall added that aircraft carriers already handle acceleration forces of up to 3Gs without issues, suggesting that similar technology could be adapted for lunar launches.

The group discussed the technical and logistical challenges of building a mass driver on the Moon, calculating that a 19-kilometer long mass driver would result in approximately 10G acceleration, which Phil confirmed was accurate. Bill raised concerns about launching semiconductor manufacturing equipment from Earth to the Moon, suggesting it might be more cost-effective to make chips on Earth and send them up using SpinLaunch or other rockets. The discussion concluded by proposing that Starship or other proven rockets would be the best option for sending chips to the Moon, while it was noted that SpinLaunch from Earth would face significant drag issues.

The team further discussed the potential for establishing a lunar economy focused on data centers, with Phil proposing a model where Earth-based companies miniaturize and adapt manufacturing processes for lunar operations. They explored the possibility of using permanently shadowed craters on the moon for data center cooling, powered by nuclear or thorium reactors, which could provide both unlimited power and cryogenic cooling. The discussion addressed the challenges of latency in data transmission to Earth, with Phil noting that it might not significantly impact many current AI tasks. The point was made for a highlighted need for fiber optic cables to connect the data center components. Bill suggested using a large RTG and a sterling engine for power generation, while it was emphasized the competition from nuclear-powered data centers on Earth using molten salt reactors, which could be more cost-effective and easier to control.

The group discussed the feasibility and economics of building data centers on the Moon versus Earth, with Phil arguing that while lunar data centers would be more cost-effective due to mass driver technology, the development timeline could be 30-40 years. They explored various delivery models, including the use of helicopters for remote Earth locations and the potential for nuclear reactors, with others suggesting that Earth-based nuclear data centers could be developed within 5 years. Bill clarified that Elon Musk’s proposal involved launching data centers into cislunar space rather than deep space, and Marshall proposed using AI units on the backside of Starlink satellites, though Phil noted that current satellite computing economics don’t work out economically due to solar panel efficiency and battery wear issues.

The group discussed the regulatory landscape for data centers and AI, with Phil noting that despite concerns, regulatory bodies are unlikely to significantly slow down their development due to the overwhelming benefits. Dr. Kothari shared his perspective on nuclear power solutions, particularly highlighting the potential of thorium-based molten salt reactors as a scalable and cost-effective option for data centers, which he believes could be more attractive to investors. Phil and Ajay also discussed the economic viability of small modular reactors versus larger reactors, with Phil mentioning a video by that suggested smaller reactors might not be as economical. The conversation concluded with Philip emphasizing the uncertainty of future energy technologies and the potential for advancements like zero-point energy or the miniaturization of factories on the moon.

The group discussed various energy solutions for data centers emphasizing the potential of thorium-based reactors over space-based solar power or fusion. They explored the logistics of data center production, with Phil suggesting that the location of data center factories would be more influential than energy source choice. The conversation then shifted to mass drivers and spin launch technologies, with John Hunt raising questions about trajectory control and Manuel inquiring about materials used in mass drivers. The discussion concluded with Bill noting that while Musk is knowledgeable about space, many AI companies may lack the necessary space expertise to effectively implement these technologies.

The group discussed the current state and future of AI data centers, with Phil explaining that while companies like Nvidia, OpenAI, and Google dominate the market with 60-80% of compute workload, smaller players like Musk and Grok only account for 2%. Bill presented current computer capability metrics showing Google at 27%, OpenAI at 20%, Meta at 15.7%, and others including Anthropic at 9.7%. The discussion concluded with Philip presenting a technical analysis of mass drivers for space-based data centers, emphasizing that space data centers could drive a 50% increase in human civilization’s economic scale, and noting his upcoming presentations at ISDC and Ascend in May-June.

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Guests: John Hunt

Zoom: John Hunt is back with his UAP update with lots of new information and actions.

Broadcast 4519: Hotel mars with Rahil Makadia | Wednesday 18 Mar 2026 930AM PT

Guests: John Batchelor, Dr. David Livingston, Rahil Makadia

Hotel Mars: Updates on the DART Mission. Don’t miss this segment!

Friday, March 20: No program but check Upcoming Show Menu for possible last minute changes | Friday 20 Mar 2026 930AM PT

Guests: Dr. David Livingston

Friday, March 20: No program but check Upcoming Show Menu for possible last minute changes

Broadcast 4520: Zoom: Space Show AI User Program | Sunday 22 Mar 2026 1200PM PT

Guests: Dr. David Livingston

Zoom: By demand this is the program with Space Show Advisors & guests describing their AI usage, how and why.

Space Show weekly schedule pending. See Upcoming Show Menu on the right side of our home page, www.thespaceshow.com. The weekly newsletter will be posted on Substack when completed.

John Batchelor and I welcomed Dr. Peter van Dokkum of Yale to define and discuss runaway black holes which are supermassive objects expelled from galaxies after massive collisions. These objects move at 1,000 kilometers per second, escaping their host galaxies to roam through intergalactic space.

Astronomers first detected a runaway black hole via a shock front and a wake of 100 million newborn stars. This stellar trail traces the black hole’s path as it travels through intergalactic gas per the description used by John Batchelor for this Hotel Mars program.

Special thanks to our sponsors:American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Helix Space in Luxembourg, Celestis Memorial Spaceflights, Astrox Corporation, Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University, The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy, The Atlantis Project, and Artless Entertainment

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Broadcast 4518: Zoom: John Hunt | Tuesday 17 Mar 2026 700PM PT

Guests: John Hunt

Zoom: John Hunt is back with his UAP update with lots of new information and actions.

Broadcast 4519: Hotel mars with Rahil Makadia | Wednesday 18 Mar 2026 930AM PT

Guests: John Batchelor, Dr. David Livingston, Rahil Makadia

Hotel Mars: Updates on the DART Mission. Don’t miss this segment!

Friday, March 20: No program but check Upcoming Show Menu for possible last minute changes | Friday 20 Mar 2026 930AM PT

Guests: Dr. David Livingston

Friday, March 20: No program but check Upcoming Show Menu for possible last minute changes

Broadcast 4520: Zoom: Space Show AI User Program | Sunday 22 Mar 2026 1200PM PT

Guests: Dr. David Livingston

Zoom: By demand this is the program with Space Show Advisors & guests describing their AI usage, how and why.

Space Show weekly schedule pending. See Upcoming Show Menu on the right side of our home page, www.thespaceshow.com. The weekly newsletter will be posted on Substack when completed.

Hotel Mars, John Batchelor, Dr. David Livingston, Dr. Pieter van Dokkum, runaway black holes, supermassive objects, ejected from galaxies, travel at very high speeds and more

The Space Show Presents Jim Muncy, Sunday, 3-10-26

Quick Summary:

Our discussion focused on NASA’s Artemis program changes and lunar development strategy, with Jim Muncy discussing NASA Administrator Jared’s recent modifications to Artemis missions, including standardizing on the Centaur 5 upper stage and adding an Earth orbit rendezvous mission before lunar landing attempts. The discussion explored how these changes improve odds for a 2028 moon landing, with both HLS providers (SpaceX and Blue Origin) being encouraged to demonstrate their lander systems in Earth orbit by mid-2027. The conversation concluded with a debate about commercial lunar development, where Jim advocated for establishing a commercial lunar base from day one rather than creating a government-built facility, arguing that commercial solutions would drive more economic activity and scientific research on the moon than a government-only approach.

Detailed Summary:

Jim Muncy discussed NASA Administrator Jared’s recent changes to the Artemis program, including the insertion of a lower orbit rendezvous mission, cancellation of the expiration upper stage and second mobile launch platform, and standardization on a commercial Centaur 5 upper stage. The changes aim to accelerate flight rates and challenge Boeing to demonstrate realistic production capabilities to support lunar base development. Jim noted that while SLS may not be the most affordable solution, the modifications have been generally well-received by the space community, with Gateway likely to be repurposed or replaced.

Our guest discussed NASA’s changes to the Artemis program, highlighting Jared’s decision-making process and implementation of new strategies. The discussion covered the cancellation of SLS1D configuration in favor of SLS1A with a new upper stage, as well as plans to accelerate HLS contractors’ development without government micromanagement. Jim noted that while SLS manufacturing could potentially be shut down after Artemis 3, the focus remains on achieving sustainable lunar missions rather than specific hardware elements.

The group discussed the odds and timeline for a human moon landing in 2028 following recent changes to the Artemis program. Jim expressed optimism about achieving a lunar landing in 2028, citing the potential for one landing attempt with a human landing system (HLS) prototype in early 2028 and another in late 2028, contingent on accelerating the SLS core production rate to one per year. Our discussion highlighted that while SLS hardware is on track, the main bottleneck remains the development of HLS systems and spacesuits, with some participants noting that inserting an additional Artemis mission could both de-risk the process and help accelerate HLS development by setting shorter-term deadlines for the companies involved.

Our discussed the importance of making the lunar base commercial from day one, emphasizing the need to avoid the mistakes made with the Space Shuttle and ISS programs. He proposed creating a “Port Authority for the Moon” that would oversee economic development and maximize user participation, rather than having a government-designed lunar base. James argued that infrastructure and services should be commercially provided, with NASA focusing on defining the actual value proposition for human presence on the moon rather than designing and managing infrastructure. The discussion also touched on the potential reuse of Gateway hardware for lunar surface operations and the need to demonstrate mission capabilities beyond just landing on the moon.

Jim discussed the challenges of lunar habitation, arguing that commercial systems should be embraced for moon bases similar to those in low Earth orbit. Dallas mentioned reaching out to a former Boeing manager about providing a habitat for commercial use, though Boeing hasn’t responded yet. James proposed having an authority act as a market maker to assess demand for lunar habitation capabilities based on input from all potential users. David raised concerns about different interests in lunar development, particularly the gap between academic/scientific and commercial interests, to which Jim responded that a commercial approach would likely lead to more human presence and capabilities on the moon than a government-only approach, citing the potential $50 billion in SpaceX investment capital becoming available later this year.

Jim discussed the potential for scientists and entrepreneurs to coexist on the moon, arguing that there is no inherent conflict between science and commerce. He emphasized that growing the total resource base through private investment could benefit science budgets and suggested that scientists should be in charge of their own budgets rather than serving as a “fig leaf” for NASA’s engineering programs. Joseph noted that infrastructure could facilitate science funding through grants, similar to other scientific enterprises. David reminded the audience that time was limited for additional questions or comments.

We talked about the design of lunar modules, suggesting a collaborative process involving multiple companies and NASA to establish standardized features and potentially granting antitrust exemptions to facilitate industry cooperation. He mentioned that Blue Origin might develop a simplified version of their Blue Moon lander for earlier missions, with iterative improvements leading to more capable versions for lunar landings. James expressed that both SpaceX and Blue Origin have promising paths forward, with mid-2027 as a key milestone for low Earth orbit demonstrations, though he personally believed SpaceX might succeed first due to their earlier start. The discussion also touched on potential military involvement in lunar development and the possibility of commercial activities evolving into orbital data center manufacturing.

Muncy discussed his vision for establishing a commercial lunar base where entrepreneurs could test and compete with Earth-launched technologies, particularly orbital data centers. He emphasized the importance of using lunar materials for manufacturing and expressed interest in partnerships between NASA and the nuclear power industry to develop lunar power capabilities. The group also discussed power generation options on the moon, including solar power and nuclear reactors using thorium, with Dallas noting that current power solutions would likely cost around triple digits per kilowatt hour.

Special thanks to our sponsors:American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Helix Space in Luxembourg, Celestis Memorial Spaceflights, Astrox Corporation, Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University, The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy, The Atlantis Project, and Artless Entertainment

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Broadcast 4518: Zoom: John Hunt | Tuesday 17 Mar 2026 700PM PT

Guests: John Hunt

Zoom: John Hunt is back with his UAP update with lots of new information and actions.

Broadcast 4519: Hotel mars with Rahil Makadia | Wednesday 18 Mar 2026 930AM PT

Guests: John Batchelor, Dr. David Livingston, Rahil Makadia

Hotel Mars: Updates on the DART Mission. Don’t miss this segment!

Friday, March 20: No program but check Upcoming Show Menu for possible last minute changes | Friday 20 Mar 2026 930AM PT

Guests: Dr. David Livingston

Friday, March 20: No program but check Upcoming Show Menu for possible last minute changes

Broadcast 4520: Zoom: Space Show AI User Program | Sunday 22 Mar 2026 1200PM PT

Guests: Dr. David Livingston

Zoom: By demand this is the program with Space Show Advisors & guests describing their AI usage, how and why.

Space Show weekly schedule pending. See Upcoming Show Menu on the right side of our home page, www.thespaceshow.com. The weekly newsletter will be posted on Substack when completed.

Anatoly Zak was our Hotel Mars guest for March 4, 2026 to once again take us through Russian space history with stories and events that were classified at the time so new to us today. You can follow along on Anatoly's excellent website,

https://www.russianspaceweb.com.

Though many of his stories are behind a paywall, and I suggest you subscribe if Russian space news and history is important to you, it goes a long way in filling in details of our historic space program that as I said are only coming to light in these recent times.

Special thanks to our sponsors:American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Helix Space in Luxembourg, Celestis Memorial Spaceflights, Astrox Corporation, Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University, The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy, The Atlantis Project, and Artless Entertainment

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Broadcast 4516 Zoom: Phil Swan | Sunday 15 Mar 2026 1200PM PT

Guests: Phil Swan

Zoom: Phil Swan discusses launching orbital data centers from the Moon

Space Show weekly schedule pending. See Upcoming Show Menu on the right side of our home page, www.thespaceshow.com. The weekly newsletter will be posted on Substack when completed.

The Space Show Presents Dr. Andrew Fraknoi, Sunday, March 1, 2026

Quick Summary:

The Space Show presented an in-depth discussion with astronomer Dr. Andrew Fraknoi about the upcoming total lunar eclipse on March 3rd, which will be visible in the early morning hours across North America. Our discussion explored how ancient Greeks used lunar eclipses to prove Earth’s spherical shape and covered modern astronomical topics including the Vera Rubin Observatory’s 10-year sky-mapping project and the James Webb Space Telescope’s capabilities for observing distant galaxies. The discussion also touched on the debate between active and passive SETI approaches to searching for extraterrestrial intelligence, with Dr. Fraknoi expressing caution about sending messages to potential alien civilizations. The program concluded with information about Dr. Fraknoi’s free astronomy textbook and his ongoing Silicon Valley Astronomy Lectures series for 27 years.

Detailed Summary:

The meeting began with a discussion about teaching programs for retired individuals, where Andrew shared his experience teaching astronomy in national classes through the Osher Lifelong Learning Institute. The conversation then shifted to a discussion about supernovae, with Andrew explaining that predicting them is currently impossible. David encountered technical difficulties with Zoom, preventing a participant from joining, and John Hunt offered suggestions to resolve the issue. The conversation ended with David announcing upcoming schedule changes, including a canceled show due to his travel to UCLA, and encouraged listeners to support the program through PayPal or Substack.

Andrew explained the details of the upcoming total lunar eclipse, noting that while it’s easily observable without special equipment, its timing in the middle of the night makes it inconvenient for most people. He shared a chart showing the eclipse’s progression across different time zones, highlighting that the total phase will last about an hour, with the moon appearing red due to Earth’s atmosphere bending sunlight. Andrew also discussed the historical significance of lunar eclipses, explaining how ancient Greeks observed the round shadow cast by Earth to conclude the Earth was spherical, and clarified that lunar eclipses are safe to watch without protection. He contrasted lunar and solar eclipses, noting that while lunar eclipses are more accessible and beautiful, solar eclipses are crucial for studying the sun’s atmosphere due to a unique coincidence where the moon and sun appear the same size from Earth.

The Space Show Wisdom Team discussed the history of astronomical knowledge, focusing on ancient Greek contributions to understanding the Earth’s shape and the distances to the moon and sun. Andrew explained how the Greeks developed geometry to calculate these distances, with Marshall noting that their ratio estimates were surprisingly accurate. They also discussed Eratosthenes’ experiment measuring the Earth’s circumference and how this knowledge influenced Columbus’ voyages, despite some debate during the Middle Ages about the Earth’s shape.

Andrew discussed the historical significance of Einstein’s general theory of relativity, highlighting the 1919 solar eclipse experiment that confirmed his predictions about light bending. He also explained the Vera Rubin Observatory, a ground-based telescope in Chile with a sophisticated digital camera that will capture a 10-year time-lapse of the sky, enabling astronomers to discover millions of new celestial objects. David inquired about the observatory’s citizen science component, to which Andrew confirmed the existence of projects like the Rubin Comet Catchers and mentioned that the data will be accessible for public participation. Andrew also briefly mentioned the James Webb Space Telescope, emphasizing its ability to observe infrared wavelengths and its potential to provide new insights into the universe’s history.

Andrew explained how light travels at a finite speed, making observations of distant astronomical objects reflect events from the past, such as the 4-year-old light from the nearest star. He highlighted the James Webb Space Telescope’s ability to observe the early universe, revealing structures and black holes that formed much earlier than expected, prompting questions about their origins and the need for better theories and telescopes to understand these phenomena. David inquired about the feasibility of extrapolating current conditions from ancient observations, to which Andrew responded that while AI and data could help, more observations and theoretical understanding are needed to accurately model the early universe’s evolution.

The group discussed historical measurements of the speed of light, with Marshall sharing how Galileo used Jupiter’s moons to make one of the first estimates. David mentioned a story about an Old West cowboy who invented a way to measure the speed of light and later became involved with the Naval Observatory, though the group couldn’t confirm the details. The conversation concluded with David asking if there was any citizen science opportunity related to the James Webb Telescope, though no answer was provided.

Andrew discussed citizen science projects, particularly Zooniverse and NASA’s citizen science page, where individuals can contribute to astronomical discoveries. He highlighted the significant increase in the number of known planets around other stars since 1995, from zero to over 6,000, emphasizing the role of citizen science in these discoveries. Andrew also touched on the search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI), expressing optimism about the possibility of discovering advanced life forms elsewhere in the universe, and mentioned an upcoming international symposium on the search for technosignatures.

Our guest explained that the speed of light does not change near a black hole, but rather space and time are affected by gravity. He described how time would slow down for someone approaching a black hole, causing them to experience a faster-paced universe upon their return. Andrew mentioned a Harvard experiment that confirmed Einstein’s predictions about time’s relationship with gravity. John Hunt noted that the phenomenon was depicted in the movie Interstellar, though the film’s space dynamics were inaccurate.

We continued talking about black holes and their properties, with Andrew explaining that black holes themselves are invisible but can be detected through their accretion disks - swirling whirlpools of material being pulled into the black hole. Marshall clarified his earlier comment about varying gravity in accretion disks, explaining that while black hole gravity remains constant, individual particles in the disk experience varying gravitational effects due to the complex arrangement of mass. The conversation concluded with a discussion about the differences between astronomy, astrophysics, and cosmology, with Andrew explaining that while all astronomers are essentially astrophysicists, cosmology is a specialized branch that studies the universe as a whole rather than individual celestial objects.

Andrew and David discussed the nature of astronomy and astrophysics degrees, emphasizing that the terms are often interchangeable and that a strong background in physics and mathematics is crucial for a career in astronomy. They also explored the concept of SETI (searching for extraterrestrial intelligence) versus MEDI (messaging extraterrestrial intelligence), with Andrew expressing concerns about sending out loud messages to potential alien civilizations due to humanity’s relative youth and lack of understanding of other civilizations in the galaxy. The discussion concluded with the question of who should make the decision to reveal humanity’s presence to extraterrestrial civilizations, highlighting the need for a global consensus on such an important issue.

Andrew and David discussed the potential dangers and ethical considerations of broadcasting messages to extraterrestrial civilizations, emphasizing the need for caution and decision-making processes. Andrew shared insights from his work with the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry, highlighting efforts to debunk pseudoscience and paranormal claims, and explained the role of faith in personal belief systems. He also promoted the OpenStax project, which provides free online textbooks for introductory college courses, including astronomy. The conversation concluded with updates on the Silicon Valley Astronomy Lectures, which are now available as podcasts and on YouTube, and a brief discussion about upcoming celestial events and potential guests for future shows.

Special thanks to our sponsors:American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Helix Space in Luxembourg, Celestis Memorial Spaceflights, Astrox Corporation, Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University, The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy, The Atlantis Project, and Artless Entertainment

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Broadcast 4516 Zoom: Phil Swan | Sunday 15 Mar 2026 1200PM PT

Guests: Phil Swan

Zoom: Phil Swan discusses launching orbital data centers from the Moon

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The Space Show Presents Karen Jones re “SPACEPORTOPIA” Thursday, 2-26-26

Quick Summary:

This Space Show program focused on spaceport development and launch forecasting, featuring Karen Jones from Aerospace Corporation to discuss her paper “Spaceportopia: A Primer for Successful Launch Site Planning.” The discussion explored the economic challenges of spaceport development, including demand forecasting, regional compatibility, and the risks of irrational exuberance in space industry projections. The Space Show Wisdom Team panel examined several failed spaceport initiatives like Spaceport Michigan and Spaceport Camden, while also discussing the current state of launch infrastructure and the potential for offshore launch sites. The conversation concluded with a debate about Elon Musk’s business ventures and the need for more realistic planning in the space industry, with participants agreeing that while visionary thinking is important, it must be grounded in practical considerations and economic analysis.

Detailed Summary:

David and Dr. Sherry Bell discussed the potential of spaceports, focusing on economic feasibility and regional compatibility. Karen Jones, an expert in space economics, highlighted the importance of grounded economic analysis in spaceport planning, emphasizing the need for realistic forecasting and adaptive strategies. They discussed the challenges of launch demand, congestion at existing spaceports, and the potential for new spaceports, including the much talked about Las Vegas spaceport.

David and Karen discussed the economic viability and planning issues of Spaceport America, highlighting how initial reports advised against it but were rewritten to support its construction. They compared this to similar problems with Spaceport Michigan, which overestimated job creation and failed to consider international coordination. Ajay shared insights from his work with AFRL, emphasizing the impracticality of single-stage-to-orbit vehicles, and mentioned a conversation with a Florida senator’s staffer who expressed concerns about the lack of spaceport infrastructure needed for planned satellite launches and the Golden Dome project, which Ajay suggested was premature given current capabilities.

Karen discussed the classification of space launches as public transportation in Florida to obtain tax-exempt and low-interest bonds, raising concerns about transparency and risk profiles when bundling municipal bonds with spaceport investments. She highlighted lessons learned from the failed Spaceport Camden project in Georgia, emphasizing the need for rigorous economic analysis, transparency, and stakeholder engagement. Ajay and David inquired about economic analysis parameters for spaceports and the status of Spaceport Camden, which Karen explained was abandoned due to environmental concerns, lack of transparency, and competition with other regional interests.

We discussed spaceport infrastructure and launch site selection, with Karen explaining that Georgia’s spaceport faced challenges due to lack of transparency and local stakeholder concerns rather than infrastructure limitations. They explored the need for launch site diversity to address bottlenecks, with Karen noting that better efficiency at existing bottlenecks could help manage demand. The discussion also covered polar orbits and their importance for various space missions, with Karen highlighting emerging launch sites in the UK, Canada, Norway, and Alaska for sun-synchronous orbits, which are becoming increasingly popular for orbital data centers.

David expressed skepticism about the feasibility and demand for offshore rocket launches, while Karen noted logistical challenges and potential niche applications but highlighted the importance of regional economic planning and cluster theory in spaceport development. Karen discussed Michael Porter’s cluster theory, emphasizing the role of complementary industries, skills, and infrastructure in creating successful spaceport clusters, and mentioned examples like Spaceport Houston and Florida’s space clusters. Ajay inquired about the potential for Wallops Island to develop a similar cluster, and Karen suggested it had some potential but might not reach the scale of Cape Canaveral.

Karen emphasized the importance of regional planning for spaceports, advocating for a comprehensive approach that considers alternative land uses and conducts rigorous economic analyses. She highlighted the need for transparency and trust in the community to ensure successful spaceport development. Karen also discussed the challenges of managing “irrational exuberance” in the space industry, suggesting a shift towards more grounded and scalable models. The conversation touched on national security considerations for spaceport development and the potential for increased launch cadence at existing facilities.

The team further discussed the impact of technological advancements and market dynamics on spaceport planning and satellite demand. Karen highlighted how miniaturization and multi-orbit constellations could affect long-term demand forecasts, while Ajay emphasized the need for caution in overestimating future market demands. David raised concerns about the lack of clear commercial applications beyond telecommunications, questioning the viability of proposed spaceport capacities. Ajay suggested that current lunar and cislunar opportunities might not significantly impact spaceport requirements in the near term, focusing instead on telecommunications and derivative markets.

Another late program topic included the speculative and risky nature of future space projects, with David expressing skepticism about building capacity for speculative needs. Karen raised concerns about the vertical integration of companies like SpaceX and the potential for a “house of cards” in the space economy. Amir and Karen explored the factors influencing the number and location of spaceports, including market demand for satellites and the geopolitics of satellite manufacturing and launch sites. The discussion concluded with Karen noting that many countries are motivated to develop their own spaceports due to increasing geoeconomic competition, though some have made similar mistakes to U.S. planners in their spaceport development.

Special thanks to our sponsors:American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Helix Space in Luxembourg, Celestis Memorial Spaceflights, Astrox Corporation, Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University, The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy, The Atlantis Project, and Artless Entertainment

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Hotel Mars on the subject of runaway black holes

Friday, March 13: No program today | Friday 13 Mar 2026 930AM PT

Guests: Dr. David Livingston

No program today

Broadcast 4516 Zoom: Phil Swan | Sunday 15 Mar 2026 1200PM PT

Guests: Phil Swan

Zoom: Phil Swan discusses launching orbital data centers from the Moon

Space Show weekly schedule pending. See Upcoming Show Menu on the right side of our home page, www.thespaceshow.com. The weekly newsletter will be posted on Substack when completed.