What if the key to peace is getting closer, not pulling away?

In this episode of Practicing Hope, Tanner Smith sits down with Todd Deatherage and Emily Cullum of Telos, a peacemaking organization that leads immersive trips into places shaped by conflict. Together, they explore how "getting proximate" — moving toward people and places we don't understand — can transform our lives, deepen empathy, and help us love more like Jesus.

If you've ever wondered how to faithfully engage across difference or how to love when it's hard, this conversation offers hope and practical next steps.

In this episode:

• Proximity helps us see others as fully human.

• Growth and empathy often begin where our comfort ends.

• Christians are called to be peacemakers, even when it's uncomfortable.

Show notes:

• Learn more about Telos Group by visiting their website.

• 2 Corinthians 5

• "Going Toward in Difficult Relationships" episode on the Practicing Hope podcast.

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