Growth doesn’t always look like what you think. Sometimes, it’s not about pushing harder but getting radically honest about what’s working, what’s not, and what needs to shift.

In this episode, we’re pulling back the curtain on some major moves happening inside PEMA, from how AI is reshaping our daily operations to launching a brand-new lead gen platform, and the internal shifts we’ve made to scale smarter and serve better.

If you're in build mode, you’ll want to hear this. Because the next phase of growth rarely starts with more hustle, it starts with clarity.

Keynotes & Chapter Markers:

Keynotes & Chapter Markers:
00:00 – Intro: A real, raw behind-the-scenes update
01:55 – The big news
04:15 – Reason #1
09:39 – Reason #2
12:02 – Reason #3
14:20 – What to expect in the fall: More value, more impact

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• Master cold outreach, close more deals & drive revenue to your business using The Outbound Sales Playbook. Battle-tested on over 1,000+ businesses and proven with over 100M data-points, this Free E-book will give you the tools you need for predictability and scalability in your marketing and sales efforts. Disclaimer: Only download if you want more customers!

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About The Hosts:

• Tim & Cindy Dodd are the Co-founders of PEMA.io, based out of Miami, FL. Connect with Tim and Cindy: Instagram

About PEMA.io:

• PEMA.io is a Inc 5000 Outbound Marketing Agency specializing in Enterprise Sales & Appointment Setting. With over 7-years and 1,000+ clients served in the industry, PEMA is the leading agency for cold outreach appointments & systems. Learn more about PEMA.io here: www.pema.io/discover

What if your entire go-to-market strategy had to change overnight?

In this episode, you’ll hear how Ryan Davis, co-founder of People First, pivoted from political influencer marketing to public health campaigns at the height of the pandemic—and used that momentum to scale a thriving agency.

Ryan breaks down how they won high-budget clients, built strong referral pipelines through white-label partnerships, and used newsletters and case studies to close million-dollar deals—without chasing every shiny object.

If you’ve been trying to figure out how to pivot, position, or power up your agency or service-based business, you don’t want to miss this conversation.

Keypoints & Chapter Markers

00:00 – Launching a business… right before the world shut down
04:00 – Finding a “blue ocean” in an overlooked niche
08:13 – Turning case studies into real campaigns
14:35 – The long sales cycle and building trust through newsletters
20:04 – How AI is changing the agency model (and hiring)

Want to connect with Ryan?

People First: https://peoplefirst.cc/

Influencer Impact: https://people1st.substack.com/

The Month In Digital: https://monthindigital.substack.com/

Download The Free Outbound Sales Playbook:

• Master cold outreach, close more deals & drive revenue to your business using The Outbound Sales Playbook. Battle-tested on over 1,000+ businesses and proven with over 100M data-points, this Free E-book will give you the tools you need for predictability and scalability in your marketing and sales efforts. Disclaimer: Only download if you want more customers!

Join The Takeover Community:

• Sign up for The Takeover newsletter and get the latest marketing tips, sales strategies, and business insights delivered straight to your inbox. Join a community of entrepreneurs & high-performers dominating all areas of Sales & Marketing. Sign up for the newsletter.

About The Hosts:

• Tim & Cindy Dodd are the Co-founders of PEMA.io, based out of Miami, FL. Connect with Tim and Cindy: Instagram

About PEMA.io:

• PEMA.io is a Inc 5000 Outbound Marketing Agency specializing in Enterprise Sales & Appointment Setting. With over 7-years and 1,000+ clients served in the industry, PEMA is the leading agency for cold outreach appointments & systems. Learn more about PEMA.io here: www.pema.io/discover

What if the secret to scaling a startup wasn’t raising millions, but creating an ecosystem that lets everyone win?

In this episode of The Takeover, Jake Schoenberger, the Head of Strategy and Operations for Ads at Beehive reveals how he scaled a newsletter platform into a powerhouse with unicorn potential. From his journey at Facebook partnerships to launching and selling Swapstack, Jake breaks down the strategies he used to build and monetize a thriving newsletter ecosystem.

Whether you’re a startup founder, newsletter creator, or marketer looking for new growth ideas, this episode is packed with tactical strategies and inspiring insights.

Keypoints & Chapter Markers:

00:00 – Introduction: Jake’s path from Facebook to Swapstack
01:57 – The birth of Swapstack and newsletter monetization
03:51 – Building traction: How they grew Swapstack from scratch
10:23 – Selling to Beehive and accelerating growth
22:26 – Beehive’s next-level growth strategy and partner ecosystem
33:47 – The long-term vision for Beehive as a unicorn platform
34:43 – How to connect with Jake and Beehive

Connect with Jake: Jake on LinkedIn | Jake on X

Download The Free Outbound Sales Playbook:

• Master cold outreach, close more deals & drive revenue to your business using The Outbound Sales Playbook. Battle-tested on over 1,000+ businesses and proven with over 100M data-points, this Free E-book will give you the tools you need for predictability and scalability in your marketing and sales efforts. Disclaimer: Only download if you want more customers!

Join The Takeover Community:

• Sign up for The Takeover newsletter and get the latest marketing tips, sales strategies, and business insights delivered straight to your inbox. Join a community of entrepreneurs & high-performers dominating all areas of Sales & Marketing. Sign up for the newsletter.

About The Hosts:

• Tim & Cindy Dodd are the Co-founders of PEMA.io, based out of Miami, FL. Connect with Tim and Cindy: Instagram

About PEMA.io:

• PEMA.io is a Inc 5000 Outbound Marketing Agency specializing in Enterprise Sales & Appointment Setting. With over 7-years and 1,000+ clients served in the industry, PEMA is the leading agency for cold outreach appointments & systems. Learn more about PEMA.io here: www.pema.io/discover

Ever had a prospect say, “No real problems here…just curious what you do”?

That’s where most sales calls fall apart.

In this final episode of the 5-part B2B Sales Training Series, we walk you through Full Circle Questioning—a 4-step framework designed to turn vague, surface-level responses into real, actionable problems and clear goals you can actually sell to.

You’ll learn how to navigate conversations when prospects are unclear, resistant, or “just browsing,” and how to bring the discussion full circle so that they tell you exactly what needs to change.

Whether you're selling to high-growth companies, impact-driven founders, or skeptical execs, this episode will give you a plug-and-play approach to move deals forward, even when there’s no obvious problem upfront.

Keypoints & Chapter Markers:

00:00 – Intro: What to do when a prospect gives vague answers
01:29 – The 4 Steps
09:37 – When to use Full Circle to dig into the real issue
10:28 – Why clarity of the problem = clarity in closing

New here? Start with Part 1 to MASTER the techniques of B2B Sales.

Download The Free Outbound Sales Playbook:

• Master cold outreach, close more deals & drive revenue to your business using The Outbound Sales Playbook. Battle-tested on over 1,000+ businesses and proven with over 100M data-points, this Free E-book will give you the tools you need for predictability and scalability in your marketing and sales efforts. Disclaimer: Only download if you want more customers!

Join The Takeover Community:

• Sign up for The Takeover newsletter and get the latest marketing tips, sales strategies, and business insights delivered straight to your inbox. Join a community of entrepreneurs & high-performers dominating all areas of Sales & Marketing. Sign up for the newsletter.

About The Hosts:

• Tim & Cindy Dodd are the Co-founders of PEMA.io, based out of Miami, FL. Connect with Tim and Cindy: Instagram

About PEMA.io:

• PEMA.io is a Inc 5000 Outbound Marketing Agency specializing in Enterprise Sales & Appointment Setting. With over 7-years and 1,000+ clients served in the industry, PEMA is the leading agency for cold outreach appointments & systems. Learn more about PEMA.io here: www.pema.io/discover

No Problem = No Sale. 

In part 4 of the B2B Sales series, we’ll discuss how to get to the REAL pain and problem your prospect is facing. The reality is people don't get on sales calls just for fun, and as a salesperson if you don't uncover the real problem or challenge your prospect is facing, you won't get the close.

This is an easy, step-by-step way to uncover your prospect’s true pain and challenge (not just what they say on the surface) so you can effortlessly position your service as the solution and close the deal 💸

In this episode, you’ll learn:

00:00 – Intro: Why mastering the problem is everything
01:34 – Step 1: How to open with the “right now” question
06:11 – Step 2: The 3-word probing questions that do all the heavy lifting
09:04 – Step 3: Asking impact questions that unlock urgency
10:23 – Step 4: Labeling the problem and getting full agreement
12:42 – Bonus: What to do when they say, “No problems here”

Listen to The 5-Part B2B Sales Training Series: Start with Part 1 here.

Download The Free Outbound Sales Playbook:

• Master cold outreach, close more deals & drive revenue to your business using The Outbound Sales Playbook. Battle-tested on over 1,000+ businesses and proven with over 100M data-points, this Free E-book will give you the tools you need for predictability and scalability in your marketing and sales efforts. Disclaimer: Only download if you want more customers!

Join The Takeover Community:

• Sign up for The Takeover newsletter and get the latest marketing tips, sales strategies, and business insights delivered straight to your inbox. Join a community of entrepreneurs & high-performers dominating all areas of Sales & Marketing. Sign up for the newsletter.

About The Hosts:

• Tim & Cindy Dodd are the Co-founders of PEMA.io, based out of Miami, FL. Connect with Tim and Cindy: Instagram

About PEMA.io:

• PEMA.io is a Inc 5000 Outbound Marketing Agency specializing in Enterprise Sales & Appointment Setting. With over 7-years and 1,000+ clients served in the industry, PEMA is the leading agency for cold outreach appointments & systems. Learn more about PEMA.io here: www.pema.io/discover

Yes, you’re using AI, but are you using it ethically and in a way that builds trust?

In this episode, you get a masterclass on ethical technology from James French, the founder of Ludulluu, a pioneering AI governance platform. 

James shares his fascinating journey from leading high-stakes finance deals in West Africa, to transforming a U.S. museum's board through stakeholder-led governance, to now building the trust layer missing in today’s AI revolution. 

He breaks down what AI governance really means, why it's essential for any business using AI, and how trust will become the most valuable currency in the future of tech.

Whether you're an AI builder, user, or investor, this episode gives you a whole new lens on risk, compliance, innovation—and how to do all three without compromise.

Keynotes & Chapter Markers:

[00:00] Introduction:  Why AI Governance Can’t Wait
[08:09] The Turning Point That Led to Ludulluu
[16:15] Practical AI Governance for Business Leaders
[25:55] Why Competing on Trust Will Define the AI Era

Connect with James:

Website: www.ludulluu.com

Email: [email protected]

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesafrench

Download The Free Outbound Sales Playbook:

• Master cold outreach, close more deals & drive revenue to your business using The Outbound Sales Playbook. Battle-tested on over 1,000+ businesses and proven with over 100M data-points, this Free E-book will give you the tools you need for predictability and scalability in your marketing and sales efforts. Disclaimer: Only download if you want more customers!

Join The Takeover Community:

• Sign up for The Takeover newsletter and get the latest marketing tips, sales strategies, and business insights delivered straight to your inbox. Join a community of entrepreneurs & high-performers dominating all areas of Sales & Marketing. Sign up for the newsletter.

About The Hosts:

• Tim & Cindy Dodd are the Co-founders of PEMA.io, based out of Miami, FL. Connect with Tim and Cindy: Instagram

About PEMA.io:

• PEMA.io is a Inc 5000 Outbound Marketing Agency specializing in Enterprise Sales & Appointment Setting. With over 7-years and 1,000+ clients served in the industry, PEMA is the leading agency for cold outreach appointments & systems. Learn more about PEMA.io here: www.pema.io/discover

Your most asked Sales, Scaling and AI questions answered in our 100th episode special!

In this special edition, we go rapid-fire on the most common (and critical) questions we’ve been asked over the years about sales, lead generation, operations, team building, and AI.

If you’re a founder, sales leader, BDR, or just someone scaling a business in 2025, this one’s packed with insights from the front lines of high-growth leadership. You’ll walk away with practical answers you can apply today, and a behind-the-scenes look at some personal aspects of Tim & Cindy

Keypoints & Chapter Markers:

00:00 – Introduction

03:00 – How AI Is Changing Sales in 2025

11:00 – Cold Outreach vs Referrals: What Actually Works

17:45 – Secrets to Building Remote Team Culture

26:30 – Rebuilding Ops from Scratch with AI

Whether you’ve been with us from the beginning or just found us — we’re so grateful. Your messages, reviews, and questions fuel everything we do. This podcast is for YOU. Here’s to 100 more!

Download The Free Outbound Sales Playbook:

• Master cold outreach, close more deals & drive revenue to your business using The Outbound Sales Playbook. Battle-tested on over 1,000+ businesses and proven with over 100M data-points, this Free E-book will give you the tools you need for predictability and scalability in your marketing and sales efforts. Disclaimer: Only download if you want more customers!

Join The Takeover Community:

• Sign up for The Takeover newsletter and get the latest marketing tips, sales strategies, and business insights delivered straight to your inbox. Join a community of entrepreneurs & high-performers dominating all areas of Sales & Marketing. Sign up for the newsletter.

About The Hosts:

• Tim & Cindy Dodd are the Co-founders of PEMA.io, based out of Miami, FL. Connect with Tim and Cindy: Instagram

About PEMA.io:

• PEMA.io is a Inc 5000 Outbound Marketing Agency specializing in Enterprise Sales & Appointment Setting. With over 7-years and 1,000+ clients served in the industry, PEMA is the leading agency for cold outreach appointments & systems. Learn more about PEMA.io here: www.pema.io/discover

What’s the one thing elite salespeople do differently that average reps miss completely?

In this part 3 of the 5-part B2B Sales Training Series, we break down the entire sales process from start to close. Whether you're selling $50K deals or multi-million dollar contracts, this episode outlines the exact 5-step playbook top B2B sales pros use to warm up prospects, uncover objections early, and keep momentum strong until the deal is signed.

You’ll also get a bonus strategy at the end to double your close rate using value-driven follow-up—so don’t miss it.

Key Points & Chapter Marker

00:00 – Introduction: Full Sales Process from Start to Close

01:27 – Step 1

02:24 – Step 2

03:50 – Step 3

04:46 – Step 4

06:36 – Step 5

08:02 – Bonus

Missed Part 1? Start here »

Wanna know more? Here’s the Part 2….

Download The Free Outbound Sales Playbook:

• Master cold outreach, close more deals & drive revenue to your business using The Outbound Sales Playbook. Battle-tested on over 1,000+ businesses and proven with over 100M data-points, this Free E-book will give you the tools you need for predictability and scalability in your marketing and sales efforts. Disclaimer: Only download if you want more customers!

Join The Takeover Community:

• Sign up for The Takeover newsletter and get the latest marketing tips, sales strategies, and business insights delivered straight to your inbox. Join a community of entrepreneurs & high-performers dominating all areas of Sales & Marketing. Sign up for the newsletter.

About The Hosts:

• Tim & Cindy Dodd are the Co-founders of PEMA.io, based out of Miami, FL. Connect with Tim and Cindy: Instagram

About PEMA.io:

• PEMA.io is a Inc 5000 Outbound Marketing Agency specializing in Enterprise Sales & Appointment Setting. With over 7-years and 1,000+ clients served in the industry, PEMA is the leading agency for cold outreach appointments & systems. Learn more about PEMA.io here: www.pema.io/discover

Ever feel like you nailed the sales call... but still got ghosted?

In this part 2 of the 5-part B2B Sales Training Series, we dissect the critical middle of every winning sales process. Whether you’re closing $50K contracts or $5M enterprise deals, these frameworks will show you how to lead powerful sales conversations, uncover what really matters to your prospects, and keep deals moving forward with confidence and clarity.

Key Points & Chapter Marker

00:00 – Introduction: Series Kickoff & Episode Overview

01:30 – Discovery Call Frameworks: “Problem Now” vs. “Where Now”

03:25 – Uncovering the Buying Process

04:51 – Pitching So They Sell Themselves

06:44 – Isolating & Handling the Real Objection

09:02 – Follow-Up That Doesn’t Feel Desperate

Missed Part 1? Start here »

Download The Free Outbound Sales Playbook:

• Master cold outreach, close more deals & drive revenue to your business using The Outbound Sales Playbook. Battle-tested on over 1,000+ businesses and proven with over 100M data-points, this Free E-book will give you the tools you need for predictability and scalability in your marketing and sales efforts. Disclaimer: Only download if you want more customers!

Join The Takeover Community:

• Sign up for The Takeover newsletter and get the latest marketing tips, sales strategies, and business insights delivered straight to your inbox. Join a community of entrepreneurs & high-performers dominating all areas of Sales & Marketing. Sign up for the newsletter.

About The Hosts:

• Tim & Cindy Dodd are the Co-founders of PEMA.io, based out of Miami, FL. Connect with Tim and Cindy: Instagram

About PEMA.io:

• PEMA.io is a Inc 5000 Outbound Marketing Agency specializing in Enterprise Sales & Appointment Setting. With over 7-years and 1,000+ clients served in the industry, PEMA is the leading agency for cold outreach appointments & systems. Learn more about PEMA.io here: www.pema.io/discover

Are you showing up like a boss, a buddy, or a beggar? The way you speak determines your perceived status in every sales interaction.

Welcome to the first part of our special B2B Sales Training Series! Whether you’re a founder, a sales leader, or a quota-carrying rep, this five-part sprint will sharpen your pitch, shorten your sales cycles, and boost your win rate. In this kickoff, Tim breaks down the three most POWERFUL SALES TECHNIQUES every high-performer needs to master..

If you’ve ever felt like a deal slipped away, a pitch fell flat, or a call ran cold, this episode is your reset button.

Keypoints & Chapter Markers

00:00 – Series Intro: What to Expect in These 5 Power-Packed Episodes

01:04 – Technique 1

02:58 – Technique 2

04:14 – Technique 3

06:53 – When to Close Fast vs. When to Nurture the Deal

08:17 – Reminder: You’re Solving a Problem, Not Pitching a Product

09:13 – What to Expect in part 2

Download The Free Outbound Sales Playbook:

• Master cold outreach, close more deals & drive revenue to your business using The Outbound Sales Playbook. Battle-tested on over 1,000+ businesses and proven with over 100M data-points, this Free E-book will give you the tools you need for predictability and scalability in your marketing and sales efforts. Disclaimer: Only download if you want more customers!

Join The Takeover Community:

• Sign up for The Takeover newsletter and get the latest marketing tips, sales strategies, and business insights delivered straight to your inbox. Join a community of entrepreneurs & high-performers dominating all areas of Sales & Marketing. Sign up for the newsletter.

About The Hosts:

• Tim & Cindy Dodd are the Co-founders of PEMA.io, based out of Miami, FL. Connect with Tim and Cindy: Instagram

About PEMA.io:

• PEMA.io is a Inc 5000 Outbound Marketing Agency specializing in Enterprise Sales & Appointment Setting. With over 7-years and 1,000+ clients served in the industry, PEMA is the leading agency for cold outreach appointments & systems. Learn more about PEMA.io here: www.pema.io/discover