In a Zoom meeting on 24th November 2021 Michael J discusses with Michael F the transient and hence unreal nature of all experiences, contrasting it with the permanent and hence real nature of ‘I am’, and also other aspects of Bhagavan’s teachings, particularly the practice of self-investigation and self-surrender.

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During this discussion Michael discusses the meaning and implications of passages from Bhagavan’s writings, including Uḷḷadu Nāṟpadu.

This episode can also be watched as a video: 2021-11-24 Two Michaels discuss the transience of experiences versus the permanence of ‘I am’.