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Amy Watson sits down with breast cancer survivor, Tammy Williamson. We believe there is power and Hope in story and we are so pleased to bring you this warrior's story of hope, healing, and community! Tammy's perspective is a good one, and is a testament to the power of the human spirit.  We are SO grateful that Tammy's fight, while not easy, is one that is hopeful and helps us remember there are good people in this world. It is your job to be one of those people and to find those people. There is power in community and connection!

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Clearwater Christian college alumna meet on the Wednesdays With Watson podcast to discuss Tammy's journey with breast cancer.  Diagnosed at just 40, this mom of six speaks candidly about her journey, what scared her the. most, and some of the traditions she has kept in the years since her battle with breast cancer. 

Tammy is open and honest about how she experienced a life threatening disease like breast cancer. She also shares stories of community and even gives us the perspective of some of her children. 

Early detection is KEY to survival, and it is the hope that this podcast will serve as a reminder to women and men everywhere. 

Enjoy this bonus episode of the Wednesdays With Watson podcast, and remember the power of community!

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What does it mean to advocate differently? This bonus episode of the Wednesdays With Watson podcast is an important conversation with Audrey Mabrey Prosper, domestic violence survivor and super advocate. Her message may not sit well with some, but if we are going to affect change, we must change the narrative. These days, Audrey is advocating differently, join her fight!  You can contact Audrey, and and join our fight to change the narrative here.

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TRIGGER Warning--Audrey's story is at the beginning of the episode, pick. up at 2:53.

Opening clip  property of Dr. Phil McGraw, and the emmy-nominated syndicated Dr. Phil Show, owned by the Oprah Winfrey Network. I do not own the rights to this clip listed in the public domain.

(0:00) "He will never take away my future, my happiness, my character, you wanted the beauty? Take it, you can have it"--Audrey Mabrey Prosper

(6:36) "I truly believe that I will find love again" Audrey Mabrey Prosper

Survivor: "To surpass with great change, thoughts and tenacity"--Audrey Mabrey Prosper

(8:57) Question: "Can you. tell me what you mean by advocating differently?"
"when we would talk about advocating...a lot of times we were expressing frustration...in 11 years the number of people being impacted by domestic violence has not declined...you start to wonder, what do we need to be doing differently.." Audrey Mabrey Prosper

"There are 3 phases to domestic violence: prevention, intervention and restoration"--Audrey Mabrey Prosper

(11:20) "We have created a narrative there is a victim and a villain there is a narrative and we aren't going to change it...advocating differently means changing the narrative...it is not a battle of good versus evil..."--Audrey Mabrey Prosper

(13:20) "her ex that abused her was going to court had abused another person and I thought wow, all the work we have done to break our silence did not change him as he abused somebody else"--Audrey Mabrey Prosper

Scripture
Joel 2:25

Domestic violence statistics

(16:02) Question: "What is your message to victims, survivors and those who love us?"

(19:19) Question: "Why don't we ask victims, 'why don't you just leave?'"
(20:19) "if you stay you could die, if you leave you could die"--Audrey.  Mabrey Prosper

The importance of a plan when leaving.

(21:00) The importance of co-parenting with abuser.

(22:00) The importance of community, Audrey's shout out to the entire Tampa Bay Community.

(26:08) Question: Is counseling part of your story?
"It was incredible for me to have that safe space...I didn't want to worry my friends and family so I really needed that safe space of counseling"--Audrey Mabrey Prosper

(27:17) "I want survivor to be able to choose the healing services they need"--Audrey Mabrey Prosper

(28:53) Question "Is Jesus the star of your story like he is mine?"

(30:15) "It is amazing what God can do if we let Him"--Audrey Mabrey Prosper

(31:00) "I prayed for Him for 18 months...."--Audrey Mabrey Prosper

Christopher Haney's "victim impact statement"

"We get to choose how we move forward"--Audrey Mabrey Prosper

Investigation ID episode

(37:50) If we want healthy fruits, we have to look at the roots"
"Stay curious and look at the roots"--Audrey Mabrey Prosper

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Thanks for joining the Wednesdays With Watson podcast!! Today's episode highlights type two enneagram types, and their reaction, response and healing when pain and trauma are present. 

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Enneagram, Type 2, also known as "The Helper" has a core fear of being unwanted and unloved. They are motivated to avoid the realization of both. But what happens when the core fear has been realized over and over, what then?

Enneagram Type 2's are also incredible empaths. They tend to absorb the pain of others often to their own detriment. How do we help people who identify as enneagram type 2's, especially in the presence of trauma? What do Enneagram Type 2's need from people who love them?

Wednesdays With Watson creator, Amy Watson represents the type 2. Crissy Loughridge, season 3 co-host, is honest and bold in her questioning with the goal being for those who find themselves in similar situations to understand their worthiness and moreover for those who love type 2's to provide informed help to their friends and loved ones.

Karissa Harrison is Amy's enneagram coach and provides a free assessment link on her website, you can find that free assessment here.

We are spending time on this personality framework and pairing it with trauma and loss in an effort to bring awareness to the importance of what motivates us and drives us, whether or not trauma is present. When we are aware of how we are made, we can process pain and trauma effectively. Understanding and awareness also provides opportunities to grow, and live in community with those who are not made like us, but who can help us operate as the best versions of ourselves.

How have enneagram 2's walked through Covid-19? This interview addresses how type 2's are processing the current state of the world, including non pandemic related global trauma.

This episode provides both healthy ways and unhealthy ways enneagram type 2's walk through the repercussions of trauma. What do enneagram type 2's want their family and friends to know? We address that too in this episode.

Matthew 6:33
Isaiah 26:3
Isaiah 43
Psalm 139
Genesis 1:26-27

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Podcast Co-Host: Crissy Loughridge
Podcast Producer & Engineer: Amy Highland
Podcast Cover Design: Brittany Knight
Original Logo Design: Anna Roberts
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Welcome to season 3 of the Wednesdays With Watson podcast!

We  are spending the first half of this season, studying how God made us and then using that information to help us process and understand trauma. Were you always who you are or did your trauma make you who you are?

First up, and representing the enneagram 1's out there is Christy Award Winning Author, Becky Wade. Becky is kind, authentic, delightful, and helps us understand the inner critic of the enneagram one. She articulately explains how she has been able to leverage the inner critic for good and what she does when the inner critic begins its indictment--especially during times of loss, and uncertainty.

Over View Of Enneagram 1:
Core Fear:  Being wrong, bad, immoral or corrupt.
Core Longing: To Hear (and believe) "yo are good".

While the enneagram is JUST a tool, it can be effective when coupled with the gospel. Typically, this enneagram type will often cave to the indictment of their strong, and often loud inner critic. These types need to know that they are good, that they could never work or perform themselves into a good standing with God because that happened with the completed work of Jesus.

So. We can honesty say to all enneagram 1's--You are GOOD, because He made you that way, though a hefty price was paid.

But what does this have to do when trauma anyway? If we can understand why we behave the way we do (often running from our core fears) then we can begin to live in the tension that is healing--temporarily horrible, but eternally worth it. When this type experiences trauma and loss, they are likely blaming themselves and finding a way to make it right. This is exhausting and unfruitful.

Wade beautifully describes recent opportunities to lean into the pain of loss, and also leaning on her community to help her quiet that inner critic that served to only destroy all that is right and good.

Wade agrees that our identity is in Christ, and also believes that 1 Peter 2:9 is a precious promise. When asked when she was the most content:

"When I remember that I am fully approved, fully forgiven, fully accepted and fully loved. God supplies identity that maters."

This is a message for all of us, but especially for enneagram 1 types as you learn to successfully navigate the inner critic in you. Learn to leverage it as you continue your quest from healing and living the life that you should not be able to live.

Wade's overall message to you: You are not alone. She asks others to give enneagram type ones a safe place to be wrong, yet forgiven. She encourages us to help the the enneagram 1 know that while they may be often right, they aren't always right. :) Wade highlights the importance of that message coming from a gentle and kind voice.

So, what is the superpower of the type 1 anyway?  It is,I believe, your desire to be right and a good upstanding citizen. But, I also think your superpower is flipping the switch and seeing the "rightness" is dropping things that don't belong to you like guilt and shame.

Type 1's I hope today is the day you stop listening to the lies and remember that no matter what, you stand righteous before an almighty God, once you have surrendered to Him.  Your trauma or loss was not your fault, you will continue to blame yourself, and when you do, come back here--we will remind you how much you matter!

Scripture References:

Rev 21:5

Genesis 1:25-26

Psalm 139 

I Peter 2:9

Podcast Host; Amy Watson & Crissy Loughridge
Guest: Becky Wade
Producer: Amy Highland

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Welcome to season three of the Wednesdays With Watson podcast! We are so excited to journey with you for another season of reminding listeners that YOU Matter and that there is Hope in spite how it feels in our darkest hours. This season promises to continue to provide resources for those who have experienced trauma and those who love them.

First up this season is a continuation of the end of Season 2, where we strive to help you understand how God made you, and why that is essential to healing from trauma.

The finale of Season 2 features Watson's experience using a gospel centered enneagram approach to understand and continue her healing journey from 35 years of trauma ranging from childhood abuse to domestic violence.

The second part of Season 3 will highlight trauma in spaces and places (home, work, community, church etc) and also continue to provide aces that promote healing of pain that many have just resigned themselves to endure for the rest of their lives. Hope is for you!

We will continue to highlight the hallmark 3 C's--community, counseling, and church as vital aces. Also, we will never forget the Star of all our stories, the One that promises to redeem it all and make all things new. (Revelation 21:5)

Joining Watson this season is Crissy Loughridge as a reoccurring co-host! Loughridge will bring a different perspective and depth listeners have grown to love.

Welcome! We are so glad you are here! Let the healing continue!

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Co-Host: Crissy Loughridge
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The enneagram has been a widely used tool in recent years. This effective tool helps us understand our core motivations—and understanding those core motivations helps us understand how we think, feel and behave. Understanding who God made us (fearfully and wonderfully Ps 139) can help us process trauma. 

What if we understood why we find ourselves running from emotional pain? What if if we could name our greatest fears? What if we understood those fears? What if we understood childhood messaging? What if we paid attention to how God made us? 

WHAT IF? 

This episode of Wednesdays With Watson brings Karissa Harrison.  Karissa is a certified enneagram coach and brings expertise to the podcast that is in line with listener expectations. Karissa is also a pastor and brings her heart for people to the podcast. This episode provides a gospel centered approach to the enneagram, and is in line with how God made us as we see in Genesis 3:26.

Karissa provides an overview of the enneagram, a greek word, meaning “nine” and “picture”. What is different about the enneagram as compared to other highly popular personality assessments? Karissa tells us, and helps us understand the power of this tool! This tool can be extraordinarily helpful in the presence of trauma.

Centers of Intelligence

Each enneagram type operates in a primary center of intelligence. Centers of intelligence helps us understand how we are processing information and making decisions.  Our secondary center of intelligence plays a supporting role. Our third center of intelligence is the one that we suppress and can work against us.

The gut (body) center of intelligence are enneagram types 8, 9 & 1.

The heart center of intelligence are enneagram types 2, 3 & 4.

The head center of intelligence are enneagram types 5, 6 & 7.
 
 Core Fear

Our core fear (or motivation) will inform our behavior. We will avoid our core fear at all cost. We spend tremendous amounts of energy trying to prevent the realization of our core fear.  Understanding the enneagram core fear helps us get to the root of what causes undesired behaviors and reactions to life in general. Understanding our core fear helps us process trauma.

Childhood Messaging

Childhood messaging is important for us to understand. Childhood messaging is the message that we experience either directly or indirectly in childhood. There are three types of childhood messaging and it influences the way we show up in the world as adults.

Wounding messages that arrive with an intent to harm.

Injuring messages that arrive without intent to harm.

Influencing messages that arrive from our caretakers without intent to harm.

Core Longings

Core longing is the message each of our hearts need to hear both implicitly and directly. We receive these messages through the truth of the Bible and through community.  While nothing on this planet will ever totally meet our core longing, it is helpful to understand what our hearts need to hear. When we do this, we can set ourselves up for healing from trauma.
 
 Scripture References:

John 10:10

Hebrews 4:15

Psalm 139

Eph 3:20

I Peter 2:9

John 3:16

Isiah 43

I Peter 3:19

Deuteronomy 4:31
 
 Josh Bales: "Isn't That Amazing Grace"

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This episode is a follow up episode to "Because I Matter Too" (YouTube Audio Version)

 AMY'S STORY: "This Is My Story, These Are My Songs" (YouTube Audio Version) 

 Back to the Cheetah Life, referenced in season 1, Hospitals & Courtrooms 

Recognizing Childhood Trauma: Attachment Styles Episode with Erica Cuni, LMFT—YouTube Audio

Jireh by Maverick City, Elevation Worship 

Scripture: Psalm 121:1, Luke 3:21-22, Psalm 139, Matthew 11:28

Referenced Book:

Try Softer,  Aundi Kobler

  Referenced Music: 

“Tis So Sweet To Trust In Jesus”

O for grace to trust Him more

Lyrics by Louisa M. R Stead

“I Just Wanna Be Real” Chris August

“I may be throwing down words I don’t really understand, I could be talking to myself, but I don’t think I am”. 

The enneagram paired with scripture and a coach can yield jaw dropping healing moments in the life of a PTSD patient. How can we use the enneagram as a tool in our ever- growing tool kit? In this bonus episode, Amy shares her experience working with an enneagram coach—gaining awareness and continuing to heal—healing that doesn’t make sense.

Awareness is essential to healing, understanding the blueprint of how God made us can change everything. 

Paying attention to trauma, leaning into the pain, and choosing resources to help us heal is the way through. We hope to provide a little of that for you in this episode.

We all have core fears, and desires. Most of us have received wounding messages at one point in our lives. Most of us have realized our deepest fear at one point in our lives. While both of these often start in childhood, they can come at any time, and that leaves us living in our worst fears, and not the best versions of ourselves, or who God made us to be. Often our behaviors are driven by these things. Our coping styles (or lack of coping styles) often originate with our core need not being met and/or the realization of our core fears.  

The Wednesdays With Watson podcast has a genesis of Amy sharing her journey with. PTSD. This is one of those episodes, may you find Hope in the healing story, what can actually happen when we pay attention to how God made us? 

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This is the follow up to an earlier episode where Amy shares her story and some of her favorite songs (special guest Phil Baker). You can find that episode here. This content was originally part of a cross over event with The Faithful Podcast, with host Stephanie Baker. On her own podcast, Watson leaves listeners on a cliffhanger, and in this bonus episode, she shares the follow up episode with the Wednesdays With Watson listeners who may not have popped over to The Faithful Podcast.

May you be encouraged by the power of surrender, regardless of how painful your life is, or has been, most often times the only way to survive is to walk through it. Watson chronicles one of those such times in this hopeful and creative episode. This is exclusive content and is actually a portion of Watson's developing manuscript.

THANK YOU to those of you who have continued to walk through this journey with us. We are not done, we are in full on planning stages for Season 3, that title to be announced soon. Until then, we will provide bonus episodes and will continue to remind you that YOU MATTER, and that you are SEEN, KNOWN, HEARD, LOVED & VALUED. Here in the healing zone, we believe that 3 things can drastically change the trauma narrative. It is vital for trauma survivors to flank themselves with a strong community. It is imperative for them to also seek trauma informed counseling and in some form, church can be part of the healing process (this is my experience, but sometimes church is the causation of trauma). We believe in Jesus, and Watson refers to Him as the Star of her own story and firmly believes he can be yours too.

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In this season finale of PTSD, Jesus and You, we are joined by special guest Tiffany Countryman. Tiffany is the Founder and CEO of MinistryIsMe Ministries LLC., a Crohn's Awareness Advocate, a Global Influencer, an accomplished Playwright, a Writing Coach, a member of the Board of Directors for “Neighborhoods Over Politics, INC.”, a member of the Board of Directors for “Sharing Ministries International, LLC.”, a Co-Host of the thriving Podcast titled, "Millennial Motherhood: Uncensored", and is the delighted wife of Terrence Countryman. Together, they parent two children (Terell & Gabrielle). 

It is the primary goal of Tiffany Countryman to lead souls to Christ, to assist others in fulfilling their destinies and to creatively contribute to her community until her mission is complete.

But there was a time when everything fell apart for her and the very institution that she dedicated her life and time, had no grace for her when grace upon grace was needed. Scared, poor, and pregnant out of wedlock, Countryman recalls "I couldn't even afford to park at the hospital for ultrasounds and checkups"--yet nobody in her church offered to help in any way, instead they allowed her to sit in shame week after week as she at times contemplated abortion. Having grown up without a father, she often found that need met in church leadership, all of whom neglected her in her greatest hour of need. In this candid interview, Countryman offers practical advice for places of worship when faced with a situation like hers. Countryman's interview will usher the Wednesdays With Watson podcast into our third season, where we will address more trauma in places of faith and worship.

Scripture References I John 4:4

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Podcast Guest: Tiffany Countryman
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It is so important that we understand how we use the gospel when we are walking with the hurting, broken and bruised. This solo episode seeks to unpack the use of scriptures often given to trauma survivors. It is important to lead with compassion, to get in the trenches, weep with those who weep and mourn with those who mourn.  We must use scripture in context and most important, we need to earn the trust of those need us.  Right time. Right place. Right sprit.

This is a trauma survivors plea, use the gospel as the weapon it is not for what it is not.

Scripture References in the podcast:

Mark 5:1-20

John 1:1-2

John 11:35

I Tim 3:16-17

Phil 4:6-7

Mark 1:21-28

Mark 10:46-52
 
Hebrews 4:12

Luke 9:62

Join the conversation on Instagram, where for the the next 10 days, we will post a scripture often misused in the mental health sphere. If you are listening to this post July 27, 2021—those post are in the highlight section of Amy’s Instagram account. 

Song “My Weapon” by Natalie Grant

“Your presence is my greatest weapon, pushing back the darkness, breaking every chain. My worship opens up the heavens, crushing every stronghold, when I speak Your name, cause Your presence is my weapon”

The North Face Of God, By Ken Gire

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