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This week's conversation is with someone who not only has his own Eminem lyric, but has also been featured in an episode of Southpark! Author, motivational speaker, former pastor, and interventionist Jeff VanVonderen is best known for his appearances on A&E reality show Intervention.
Listen in as he unwraps SO MUCH interesting information, from addictions that are the most challenging to work with, to toxic church situations and spiritual abuse. Van Vonderen has the perfection combination of a kind spirit with strong boundaries. He shares great pearls of wisdom and just as he does on the show ~ will leave you feeling reflective, cared about and hopeful.
You can find his work or contact him at: https://www.jeffvanvonderen.com/
This week's conversation is with lifelong family friend Ben. In order to be as open and real with listeners, as all of my guests are, I feel that sharing my own story, as I have with Ben over the years, would be a great way to open up my life and give highlights from my own personal journey of family recovery. Listen in as Ben and I discuss his first impression of coming to my family's home when I was a confused, highly stressed teenager with a great big chip on my shoulder. Ben describes what he thought of the extreme religious conversations he was first introduced to by my family in those days, and how it led to years of study of psychology, faith and stoicism. Great conversation with "my brother's friend, Ben!"
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