The conversation of the 2nd article of the Apostle's Creed continues. In this episode, we discuss the virgin birth, debate over positions on the perpetual virginity of Mary, the suffering of Christ, the devil prowling around like a roaring lion, and the ultimate breaking of evil. Also, you may find out what Katie thinks is "bull-hunky." The discussion goes to the mystery of our redemption, and trying to wrap our minds around why God would do all of this.

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