In this episode of the Way We Grow podcast, host Nick Wolfe engages with Dr. Tassa Saldi and Dr. Alfonso Garido-Lecca from TUMi Genomics. They discuss their backgrounds in plant science and cannabis research, focusing on the importance of understanding pathogens like hoplate viroid in cannabis cultivation. The conversation highlights the need for effective testing and prevention strategies for growers, emphasizing that knowledge and proactive measures can mitigate the risks associated with these pathogens. TUMi Genomics aims to provide comprehensive solutions for both home and commercial growers, helping them navigate the complexities of plant health and pathogen management. In this conversation, Tumi and Nick delve into the intricacies of cannabis cultivation, focusing on the importance of maintaining plant health, understanding viroids, and implementing effective pathogen prevention strategies. They discuss seed treatment methods, the significance of quarantine areas for new plants, and the role of vectors in pathogen transmission. The conversation also touches on the challenges of reusing substrates in living soil systems and the potential of tissue culture for pathogen remediation. Additionally, they explore the stigma surrounding cannabis use in professional settings and share personal experiences with different cultivars, emphasizing the social connections fostered through cannabis culture.Chapters00:00 Introduction to TUMi Genomics and Guests02:53 Backgrounds of Tasa and Alfonso: A Journey with Plants11:46 Alfonso's Unique Path to Cannabis Science17:56 Understanding Hops Late Viroid: Research and Implications25:06 Identifying Symptoms of Hops Late Viroid in Cannabis32:09 Impact of Hops Late Viroid on Flower Quality37:51 Understanding Plant Symptoms and Pathogens43:34 The Role of Tumi Genomics in Cannabis Cultivation50:14 Innovations in Pathogen Testing Technology55:39 Best Practices for Preventing Pathogen Spread01:00:31 Effective Cleaning and Decontamination Methods01:13:46 Understanding Pathogen Vectors01:18:34 Cloning and Media Concerns01:20:43 Living Soil and Viroid Management01:27:22 Tissue Culture Insights01:30:02 Cannabis Use and Stigma01:36:25 Cultivar Preferences and Resistance01:43:23 Memorable Cannabis Experiences