In this very special episode, Phish's Trey Anastasio talks to us about how his 2006 drug arrest and the court-ordered treatment he received afterward became the catalyst for his second act as both a musician and a human, and also inspired him to open a revolutionary treatment center in Ludlow, Vermont called Divided Sky. 
 
Show Notes:
<ul>
 <li> <a href="https://dividedsky.org/our-story">The story of Divided Sky</a>
</li>
 <li> <a href="https://www.livephish.com/beaconjams.html">Live access to Beacon Jams on November 28, 29, and 30</a>
</li>
 <li> <a href="https://trey.com/">Trey Anastasio band</a>
</li>
 <li> <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2025/04/21/after-forty-years-phish-isnt-seeking-resolution">New Yorker story on Phish</a>
</li>
 <li><a href="https://www.thesmallbow.com/">The Small Bow </a></li>
</ul>

In this very special episode, Phish's Trey Anastasio talks to us about how his 2006 drug arrest and the court-ordered treatment he received afterward became the catalyst for his second act as both a musician and a human, and also inspired him to open a revolutionary treatment center in Ludlow, Vermont called Divided Sky. Show Notes: The story of Divided Sky Live access to Beacon Jams on November 28, 29, and 30 Trey Anastasio band New Yorker story on Phish The Small Bow

In this very special episode, Phish's Trey Anastasio talks to us about how his 2006 drug arrest and the court-ordered treatment he received afterward became the catalyst for his second act as both a musician and a human, and also inspired him to open a revolutionary treatment center in Ludlow, Vermont called Divided Sky.&nbsp;
 
Show&nbsp;Notes:
<ul>
 <li>&nbsp;<a href="https://dividedsky.org/our-story" rel="noopener noreferrer">The story of Divided Sky</a>
</li>
 <li>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.livephish.com/beaconjams.html" rel="noopener noreferrer">Live access to Beacon Jams on November 28, 29, and 30</a>
</li>
 <li>&nbsp;<a href="https://trey.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Trey Anastasio band</a>
</li>
 <li>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2025/04/21/after-forty-years-phish-isnt-seeking-resolution" rel="noopener noreferrer">New Yorker story on Phish</a>
</li>
 <li><a href="https://www.thesmallbow.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Small Bow&nbsp;</a></li>
</ul>

The Wind Blows High w/ Trey Anastasio

The Small Bow Podcast is a recovery show – part interview, part storytelling – hosted by A.J. Daulerio, and based on the recovery newsletter thesmallbow.com. A.J. created TSB after he got out of rehab and wanted to hear stories about sobriety, mental health, and spirituality that he couldn’t easily find on the internet. 
We talk about recovery from all kinds of things: car crashes, identity crises, drugs, alcohol, ego. And even if you’re not in recovery, these stories and conversations have things to teach. Most people equate recovery with redemption – the part where people who’ve quit drugs or alcohol then tell you how they did it and how good their lives are now – but TSB focuses less on the beginning and ending of rock bottoms, and more about the middle part, making it through the woods. 
Join A.J. as he speaks with writers, entertainers, social workers, magazine editors, recovering addicts, recovering jerks – people – about how they made it through hard things and got better because of it. Maybe some of this will help you get better too.

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The Small Bow Podcast is a recovery show – part interview, part storytelling – hosted by A.J. Daulerio, and based on the recovery newsletter thesmallbow.com. A.J. created TSB after he got out of rehab and wanted to hear stories about sobriety, mental health, and spirituality that he couldn’t easily find on the internet. We talk about recovery from all kinds of things: car crashes, identity crises, drugs, alcohol, ego. And even if you’re not in recovery, these stories and conversations have things to teach. Most people equate recovery with redemption – the part where people who’ve quit drugs or alcohol then tell you how they did it and how good their lives are now – but TSB focuses less on the beginning and ending of rock bottoms, and more about the middle part, making it through the woods. Join A.J. as he speaks with writers, entertainers, social workers, magazine editors, recovering addicts, recovering jerks – people – about how they made it through hard things and got better because of it. Maybe some of this will help you get better too.

The Small Bow Podcast is a recovery show – part interview, part storytelling – hosted by A.J. Daulerio, and based on the recovery newsletter thesmallbow.com. A.J. created TSB after he got out of rehab and wanted to hear stories about sobriety, mental health, and spirituality that he couldn’t easily find on the internet.&nbsp;
We talk about recovery from all kinds of things: car crashes, identity crises, drugs, alcohol, ego. And even if you’re not in recovery, these stories and conversations have things to teach. Most people equate recovery with redemption – the part where people who’ve quit drugs or alcohol then tell you how they did it and how good their lives are now – but TSB focuses less on the beginning and ending of rock bottoms, and more about the middle part, making it through the woods.&nbsp;
Join A.J. as he speaks with writers, entertainers, social workers, magazine editors, recovering addicts, recovering jerks – people – about how they made it through hard things and got better because of it. Maybe some of this will help you get better too.

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