Have you ever said “yes” but really wanted to say “no”? Have you ever seen a boundary “weaponized” against someone? Have you ever wondered what makes for healthy boundaries? 

Boundaries are tricky and often misunderstood. In this episode of The Work Within podcast, host John Lin sits down with licensed therapists Ly Tran and Laura Harrison to discuss how to adopt boundaries that protect us from resentment and foster healthier connections. 

In this episode, we explore:

• Why "clear is kind" and how lack of clarity breeds resentment.
• Can boundaries ever be too rigid?
• The difference between hurting someone’s feelings and harming them.
• How to pivot from a "parental" or "childlike" posture into a healthy adult voice.
• The biblical paradox of Galatians 5: How freedom in Christ is perfected through the boundary of love.

Whether you’re dealing with a solicitor at your door, a chronically late friend, or a complex family dynamic, this conversation provides the practical scripts and theological grounding you need to stop "quiet quitting" your relationships and start showing up with integrity.

Chapters

00:00 – "No" is a Complete Sentence: The Struggle with Boundaries

02:17 – Real Talk: When Therapists Break Their Own Boundaries

05:40 – Defining the Line: Where "Me" Ends and "You" Begins

09:13 – Are Boundaries Selfish? Debunking Common Misconceptions

11:51 – The "Weaponization" of Boundaries vs. True Connection

12:39 – The Rubber Band Effect: Overcompensating After Years of "Yes"

18:15 – Re-educating Others: Moving from Over-functioning to Collaboration

25:35 – Live Roleplay: How to Handle the "Chronically Late" Friend

33:55 – The High Cost of Silence: Resentment, Rupture, and "Quiet Quitting"

39:01 – Theology of Limits: Freedom, Constraint, and Galatians 5

Hosts

• John Lin: Director of Partnerships, Watershed Initiative & Executive Director, Sweet Deeds Foundation
• Laura Harrison, LPC-S: Executive Director, WELD Group, Licensed Professional Counselor
• Dr. Ly Tran, LPC-S: Founder and Lead Executive Director of The WELD Group, Licensed Professional Counselor

Resources 

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"What does the Bible say about boundaries?"

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Editorial Note: The definition of boundaries mentioned in this episode ("the limit at which I can love both you and myself at the same time") is a paraphrase of the original work by somatic therapist Prentis Hemphill, who famously said: "Boundaries are the distance at which I can love you and me simultaneously."

“That was traumatic.” The word “trauma” gets thrown around a lot these days. But what does it actually mean for our daily lives, our relationships, and our faith? In this episode of The Work Within podcast, host John Lin talks with licensed therapist Paul McMullen and trauma specialist Jenny Wang to unpack the surprising truth: trauma isn’t just the "bad stuff" that happens to us; it’s the disconnection from our authentic selves that follows.  

Drawing on the work of Gabor Maté, Albert Wong, and Peter Levine, the team explores the critical distinction between "Big T" and "little t" trauma, explaining why "too little for too long" (emotional neglect or bullying) can be just as impactful as a single painful event. 

They discuss: 

• Why your nervous system might be stuck in "fight, flight, or freeze" even if you haven’t experienced a major catastrophe.
• Why presence is critical to healing. 
• Why we often wait until our 40s to do the deep work, and how to start earlier.
• How Jesus models "being with" rather than just "fixing."
• How churches can be trauma-informed.

Whether you're navigating your own healing journey or looking to support loved ones, this conversation offers an insightful roadmap back to your authentic self.

Chapters

[00:00] Redefining Trauma: Beyond the Buzzwords 

[05:31] Gabor Maté & The Essence of Disconnection 

[07:04] Trauma and the Imago Dei: Restoring Your Authentic Self 

[11:22] Is Trauma Part of Everyone’s Story? 

[12:41] The Empathic Witness: Why Healing Happens in Relationship 

[15:17] Big ‘T’ vs. Little ‘t’ Trauma: Too Fast vs. Too Long 

[18:27] The Comparison Trap: Why Your Wounds Matter 

[20:36] "Deal With Your Trauma or It Will Deal With You" 

[23:51] Why We Avoid the Past (And How It Shows Up in Parenting) 

[27:11] The Midlife Pivot: Why We Wait Until Our 40s to Heal 

[30:55] Jesus as Trauma-Informed: A New Perspective on the Gospel 

[38:04] Receiving Before Giving: The Importance of Doing Your Work 

Hosts

• John Lin: Director of Partnerships, Watershed Initiative & Executive Director, Sweet Deeds Foundation
• Paul McMullen, LPC: Founder of WellSpring Process Groups, Licensed Professional Counselor 
• Jenny Wang, LPC-S: Clinical Director of Lifeologie Frisco, Licensed Professional Counselor, Trauma Specialist

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Ever feel like you’re on the losing side of the battle for your mind? René Descartes famously said, "I think, therefore I am," but what happens when intrusive thoughts start robbing us of joy and peace? What do we do when we can’t stop ruminating about a “what-if” or a past wound?

In this episode of The Work Within podcast, host John Lin is joined by therapists Laura Harrison and Paul McMullen to unpack the complex relationship we have with our inner monologue. We explore why our brains produce intrusive thoughts, how to stop ruminating on past hurts, and why typical spiritual advice can sometimes backfire. This conversation offers a compassionate, clinically-informed way to live out 2 Corinthians 10:5 for anyone feeling defeated by their thought life.

Key Takeaways

• The Power of Externalizing: Learn why naming a thought is the first step to diffusing its power.
• Curiosity Over Condemnation: How the "Toddler Brain" approach leads to faster healing than self-shame.
• Relational Regulation: Why we need a "safe person" to help talk down our nervous system.

Scripture

📖 2 Cor 10:5 – Taking every thought captive

📖 Phil 4:8 – Meditating on whatever is true and nobe

Chapters

• 00:00 | The Traffic Jam of the Mind
• 01:50 | 6,200 Thoughts: The Science of Your Thoughts
• 03:45 | When Thoughts Become Intrusive
• 05:15 | The Protective Brain: Why We Ruminate
• 08:05 | You Are Not Your Thoughts: Creating Distance
• 11:35 | Rent-Free: Giving Away Your Power to Past Hurts
• 14:45 | From Slaying to Staying: A Personal Story of Grades & Grace
• 18:40 | The Vulnerability Balm: Why Connection Heals
• 21:50 | Please Stop Fixing Me: How to Actually Support a Loved One
• 25:25 | Soothing the Toddler Brain
• 28:10 | Re-envisioning "Taking Every Thought Captive"
• 32:10 | Ducks on a Pond: Choosing What to Believe
• 36:30 | The Filter: Is it True, Untrue, or Unsure?
• 40:30 | Final Practices for a Tranquil Mind

Hosts

• John Lin: Director of Partnerships, Watershed Initiative & Executive Director, Sweet Deeds Foundation
• Laura Harrison, LPC-S: Executive Director, WELD Group, trauma specialist
• Paul McMullen, LPC: Founder of WellSpring Process Groups 

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When it comes to food and our bodies, we live in extremes: minimizing our bodies (“it doesn’t really matter”) or obsessing over them (“it’s all I think about”). In Episode 12 of The Work Within, John Lin and Dieula Previlon, LPC-S, are joined by Calvin Burns, LPC (Director of Lifeologie Austin) to explore the deeper question beneath our habits: What if our relationship with food and our bodies is less about willpower and more about safety, control, and disconnection?

If you’ve ever felt stuck in cycles of emotional eating, body anxiety, and the shame that comes along for the ride, this conversation offers a compassionate, faith-informed path towards greater awareness and health. 

HOSTS / CO-HOSTS

John Lin serves as Executive Director of Sweet Deeds Foundation and Director of Partnerships for the Watershed Initiative. 

Dieula Previlon is a licensed professional counselor supervisor, ordained minister, and founder of ElevateHer International Ministries. 

Calvin Burns is a licensed professional counselor and Director of Lifeologie Austin. 

CHAPTERS

00:00 Introduction to the Complex Relationship with Food

05:44 The Importance of Exercise and Its Spiritual Connection

08:38 Disconnection from Our Bodies

11:35 The Role of Food and Exercise in Coping Mechanisms

12:15 Understanding What's Behind the Craving

17:35 Distinguishing Between Disordered Eating and Eating Disorders

20:31 The Spiritual Discipline of Fasting

26:09 Men and their Bodies: Bigorexia

28:09 Trauma's Shadow: How Past Hurts Shape Our Eating

34:32 Biblical Perspectives on Food and our Bodies

38:12 The Need for Body Theology

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RESOURCES / REFERENCES

1 Corinthians 6:19–20

“Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit… You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies.”

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Talking politics often stirs up strong emotions, which is why conversations with people who hold very different views can quickly become difficult. Many relationships have been strained—or even broken—over political disagreements.

In this episode of The Work Within podcast, Laura Harrison, Ly Tran, and John Lin explore how to navigate political conversations from two key perspectives: how to respond when someone says something you find offensive, and how to bring up a sensitive topic with someone who may judge your viewpoint.

They discuss the importance of identifying your governing principle, learning to self-regulate during tense conversations, and using curiosity to foster healthier political dialogue.

HOSTS / CO-HOSTS

John Lin serves as Executive Director of Sweet Deeds Foundation and Director of Partnerships for the Watershed Initiative.

Laura Harrison is a Licensed Professional Counselor Supervisor and Clinical Director with Lifeologie.

Dr. Ly Tran is a Licensed Professional Counselor and the founder and Lead Executive Director of The WELD Group.

CHAPTERS

00:00 K-Pop Demon Hunters and Navigating Hot Button Issues

03:19 Understanding Emotional Triggers

06:12 The Impact of Media Consumption

09:01 Conflict in Political Discussions

14:53 The Role of Curiosity in Disagreements

18:00 Therapeutic Approaches to Conflict

20:39 Practical Strategies for Engagement

27:56 Leading with Curiosity in Conversations

28:57 Relationship Over Outcome

32:43 The Essence of Compassion in Relationships

36:15 Navigating Core Values and Beliefs

36:30 Understanding the Complexity of Sin

36:58 Self-Regulation Before Engagement

39:24 The Importance of Understanding Before Being Understood

42:34 When You're Trying to Communicate Your Ideas

47:23 Self-Reflection Before Engagement

48:26 The Role of the Church in Political Divides

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RESOURCES

Diffusing Political Triggers Workshop - Saturday, April 11 at 10 AM CT, Online 

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There’s an epidemic of loneliness, and it’s literally killing us. Loneliness is as harmful to your health as smoking or alcoholism. In this important conversation, John Lin, Laura Harrison, and Ly Tran discuss the urgency of connection and community in fostering wellbeing. They explore the ever-present impact of our devices on relationships, why loneliness hits harder among men, and when practicing vulnerability is worth the risk. The discussion emphasizes practical steps we can take to make the wise investment in relationships for a fulfilling life.

HOSTS

• John Lin: Director of Partnerships, Watershed Initiative & Executive Director, Sweet Deeds Foundation
• Laura Harrison, LPC-S: Executive Director, WELD Group, Licensed Professional Counselor
• Dr. Ly Tran, LPC-S: Founder and Lead Executive Director of The WELD Group, Licensed Professional Counselor

CHAPTERS

00:00 Introduction and Setting the Stage

02:21 The Importance of Community and Connection

05:05 Insights from the Harvard Study on Relationships

06:43 Navigating Digital Devices and Relationships

09:43 Devices: Impact and Boundaries

15:07 The Required Shift in Mindset to Approach Devices Differently

18:07 Friendship Recession and the Plight of Men

22:32 Why It's So Important to Spread the Emotional Load

26:21 Practical Steps for Building Connections

31:53 How to practice vulnerability in a way that fosters relationship

39:47 The Felt Need for Relationship

42:05 Relationship Takeaways

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• Harvard Study of Adult Development https://www.adultdevelopmentstudy.org
• TED Talk: “What Makes a Good Life? Lessons from the Longest Study on Happiness” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KkKuTCFvzI
• F3 (Fitness-Faith-Fellowship) https://f3nation.com

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Spiritual practices needn’t stir up feelings of guilt, boredom, or frustration. Instead, they can truly help us connect with the Living God, enabling us to discover joy and peace in our hectic, demanding lives. But how? In the first episode of 2026, John Lin and Paul McMullen discuss fresh ways to approach practices that contribute to greater connection and wellbeing. They explore honestly the struggles of maintaining these practices, the underlying beliefs that hinder us, and how our family of origin shapes our view of God. They talk about creativity, the power of gratitude, the role of our bodies in connecting spiritually, and the need to adapt with life's seasons.

HOSTS / CO-HOSTS

• John Lin, M.Div: Director of Partnerships, Watershed Initiative & Executive Director, Sweet Deeds Foundation
• Paul McMullen, LPC-Associate: Founder of WellSpring Process Groups, Licensed Professional Counselor-Associate

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CHAPTERS + TIMESTAMPS

00:00 New Year, New Beginnings: The Journey to Spiritual Shape

02:45 The Struggle with Spiritual Practices: Guilt and Motivation

05:38 Understanding Our Beliefs About God and Spirituality

08:42 The Role of Family of Origin in Spiritual Practices

11:33 Imagining God: Creative Approaches to Prayer

14:42 Engaging with God: Texting with Immanuel and Other Practices

27:35 The Power of Communal Prayer

29:01 Creative Approaches to Gratitude

31:17 Flexibility in Spiritual Practices

32:57 Adapting Practices to Life Seasons

35:09 Integrating God into Daily Life

37:43 Expanding the Definition of Spiritual Practices

39:32 Breath Prayer and Mindfulness

46:38 Connecting Spirituality with Neuroscience

50:07 Embracing Curiosity in Spiritual Practices

RESOURCES

Now I Become Myself - Ken Shigematsu (https://a.co/d/et4LRK3)

Matthew 3:17

“This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”

Psalm 131:2

But I have calmed and quieted myself,

I am like a weaned child with its mother;

like a weaned child I am content.

Luke 18:38

He called out, “Jesus, Son of David, have mercy on me!”

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In the final episode of 2025, John Lin talks with therapists, Dieula Previlon and Paul McMullen, about the most common reasons people seek therapy. If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by life, disappointed or wounded by relationships, beset by unspoken grief, entangled by addictions, they want you to know that you are not alone and why it’s a good thing you’re not unique! They talk about how to know when vulnerability is appropriate and why those who are in therapy are some of the most courageous people they know. This episode offers compassion, encouragement, and solace for individuals, leaders, and anyone who feels a bit road-worn from this holiday season. Share this with a friend who needs a little encouragement. 

HOSTS

• John Lin: Director of Partnerships, Watershed Initiative & Executive Director, Sweet Deeds Foundation
• Paul McMullen, LPC-Associate: Founder of WellSpring Process Groups, Licensed Professional Counselor - Associate
• Dieula Previlon, LPC-S: Founder of ElevateHer International Ministries, Licensed Professional Counselor and Ordained Minister.  

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CHAPTERS + TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Introduction to Mental Health Conversations

03:20 The Struggle of Saying 'I'm Okay'

06:08 Navigating Vulnerability and Authenticity

09:16 The Impact of the Holiday Season on Mental Health

12:20 Understanding Therapy and Its Stigma

14:45 Common Themes in Therapy: Relationships and Grief

17:41 The Courage to Face Reality

19:57 Exploring Grief in Everyday Life

23:04 Coping Mechanisms and Their Effects

25:42 It Takes Courage to Face Your Stuff

26:34 Grief Is Everywhere

28:45 Encouragement for Listeners

31:46 Nothing New Under the Sun

39:52 Words for Leaders

SCRIPTURE

Ecclesiastes 1:9 

“What has been will be again,

what has been done will be done again;

there is nothing new under the sun.”

1 Corinthians 10:13

“No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to humanity. And God is faithful; He will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, He will also provide a way out so that you can endure it.”

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A lot of folks wax eloquently about love, but actually loving people is really hard. The Apostle Paul asserted that “the greatest of these is love” yet how many of us would say that we are great - or even good - at loving others? Laura Harrison, Ly Tran, and John Lin have a far-reaching conversation about how we can become more loving persons. Going beyond do's and don'ts, they look at the impact of our family of origins on how we love and how to go about “un-blending”, practices that open us to new experiences of God’s love, the surprising person we need to love first, and the practical 5:1 ratio. At Watershed Initiative, we long to see the church flourish in its ability to love. Let us be people who learn about love and practice it! 

HOSTS

• John Lin: Director of Partnerships, Watershed Initiative & Executive Director, Sweet Deeds Foundation
• Laura Harrison, LPC-S: Executive Director, WELD Group, Licensed Professional Counselor
• Dr. Ly Tran, LPC-S: Founder and Lead Executive Director of The WELD Group, Licensed Professional Counselor

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CHAPTERS + TIMESTAMPS

00:00 The Riddle of Love

01:42 The Complexity of Love During Holidays

04:27 Understanding Love Through Mental Health

07:38 The Discipline of Love

08:47 The Gap Between Belief and Practice of Love

12:07 Navigating Accountability and Love

16:41 Experiencing God's Love

20:47 Practices to Receive Love

26:59 Unblending Parental Figures and Love

31:16 The Journey to Compassionate Love

35:43 Understanding Love Through Self-Relationship

41:09 The Balance of Giving and Receiving in Relationships

49:35 Leadership and the Practice of Love

RESOURCES

Now I Become Myself - Ken Shigematsu

Galatians 5:14 

For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

John 13:34-35

“A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”

1 John 4:8

Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.

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Bad days happen. But that's never an excuse for bad behavior. In this episode of the Work Within, Ly Tran, Laura Harrison, and John Lin talk about the typical ways we cope with stressful days and how to learn healthier ways of navigating crappy circumstances and the negative emotions that come for the ride. This practical episode explores how to access hard feelings without letting them overwhelm you, ways to go from dysregulated to regulated, the power of the pause in transitions throughout the day, and the practices Jesus developed that enabled him to navigate the worst of days. Listen to this episode to develop a workable emotional hygiene routine and prevent yourself from becoming emotionally stinky! 

HOSTS

• John Lin: Director of Partnerships, Watershed Initiative & Executive Director, Sweet Deeds Foundation
• Laura Harrison, LPC-S: Executive Director, WELD Group, Licensed Professional Counselor
• Dr. Ly Tran, LPC-S: Founder and Lead Executive Director of The WELD Group, Licensed Professional Counselor

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CHAPTERS + TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Navigating Bad Days: Personal Responses

03:05 Understanding Bad Behavior: When Bad Days Escalate

06:19 The Role of Emotions: Coping with Discomfort

09:11 Exploring the Feelings Wheel: Understanding Emotions

12:21 The Complexity of Emotions: From Anger to Reflection

15:17 Regulating Emotions: The Path to Repair

21:12 Understanding Emotions and Regulation

25:39 Identifying and Addressing Emotional Triggers

30:54 The Importance of Reflection and Pause

35:37 Building Healthy Emotional Practices

40:24 Leadership and Emotional Hygiene

RESOURCES

How We Feel App - https://howwefeel.org/

Feelings Wheel - https://feelingswheel.com/

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