This week bureau chief Ben Clover is joined by colleagues Nick Kituno and Zoe Tidman.

The long-awaited NHS workforce plan finally arrived last week, missing lots of the detail that managers and professional associations were crying out for. What was in it, what was not in it and a few surprises are covered in this week’s podcast.

Also, what are the prospects for the NHS’s crumbling estate. Correspondent Zoe Tidman takes us through the latest in the convoluted quest to get some refurbished hospitals finished this side of 2030.