Theatre Geeks Anonymous Podcast by Ebony Vines and Pamela Shandrow

Carrie Heitman (Artisitic Director for Hook and Eye Theater, and Director "Plan C"), and Kyle Abourizk (Asst Director "Plan C") sit down with Ebony and Pamela to chat about this upcoming show, and complain about the patriarchy!

BroadwayWorld article (Press-type info): ⁠https://www.broadwayworld.com/off-broadway/article/PLAN-C-World-Premiere-to-be-Presented-at-The-Tank-20260223⁠

Hook & Eye website (homepage heavily features Plan C info): ⁠https://www.hookandeyetheater.com/⁠

The Tank NYC (our venue and for tickets): ⁠https://thetanknyc.org/calendar-1/2025/11/13/plan-c⁠

Plan C was devised by the Hook & Eye company ensemble. This is their fifth fully scripted/devised work that has been staged, with previous staged works including, She She She (2018), God Is A Verb (2015), The Summoners (2014), and Space Nuns of the Rescue Mainframe (2022).

Hook & Eye Theater offers a wide range of educational programs including playwriting, cooperative playmaking, and technical theater.  Email ⁠[email protected]⁠ to learn more. 

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On this Intermissionsode of Theatre Geeks Anonymous, Pamela and Ebony talk with Burton Miller on his podcast, Creative Turn. They begin the episode by talking about what shows they've all seen, the upcoming shows they are excited about, and what Burton has seen regionally in his hometown. They follow that up by talking about how they have redefined success and what that can look like and how their journeys through making things as creatives.

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Ebony and Pamela watched THE BROADWAY OF LERNER & LOEWE (1962) and SUNDAY IN THE PARK WITH STEPHEN, two documentaries about the history of musical theatre. It's a slight departure from what we normally produce, but we think you'll love it!

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Pamela shares some juicy tidbits about the rise and fall of Lone Star Love. Scandal and celebrities abound...

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Come on, this podcast isn't about novels...its about BROADWAY! But as Pamela likes to say, A good story is a good story, is a good story!". And this story was first told in the form of a novel. If you want to know more, you'll have to listen to the story i the form of a podcast:)

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Ebony and Pamela eulogize the life and accomplishments of these remarkable ladies of stage and screen. They were incredible, and have left a black hole in their wake!

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GEEKS...we have a special guest this episode! His name is Robby, and he's really funny, and cool, and he really likes theatre. And yes folks, you heard that book title correctly! Yowsers!

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Ebony pulls this double wide story right into the gas station of our collective minds! It's a truck metaphor...or is that a semi-truck metaphor?...ha! But Pamela, why?! You all knew what you were getting yourselves into when you opened the podcast app, and clicked on mine and Ebony's cartoon faces. So no pumping the brakes now. Lets go the full interstate speed limit, and blast this episode on the Mac truck stereo speakers. Ok, I'm done:) Oh, and the show is about truck drivers and stuff!

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Pamela drowns the listener in details on this episode about Dude (the Highway Life), written by the same creative team who brought us Hair. Though that's where any comparisons may stop. This is a part of our Adela Holzer series, so make sure to listen to Episode 111 beforehand, to make sure you're all caught up!

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Ebony tells the story of Adela Holzer the lead Producer of the notorious musical Senator Joe. Adela Holzer became a fascinating character after we completed our episode of Senator Joe during the first season of the podcast. Since Pamela and Ebony are also both true crime junkies and that is one of the things that got them to begin this podcast, we thought we would take a little detour into the scandal side of our podcast and tell the story behind this prolific theatrical criminal.

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