Thélème won Gramophone's Early Music Award in 2022 with their Aparté album of music by Josquin Desprez, 'Baisiez-moi'. Now they return with a new programme, also for Aparté, 'All we get is life', that brings together the music of John Dowland and John Cage – with an extra track featuring Sting in his song 'Shape of my Heart' which he performs alongside Thélème.

James Jolly caught up with Thélème's Director and one of his vocalists, Jean-Christophe Groffe, to talk about what made him bring these two composers together on a single album.