What is salvation, and how do Wesleyans understand its depth and scope?

In this episode, Dr. Matt O’Reilly sits down with Dr. Bill Ury for an engaging discussion on the Wesleyan/Methodist order of salvation. Together, they unpack key aspects of this transformative journey, including prevenient grace, justification, sanctification, and more. You'll learn how justification relates to the new birth and why grace is not a thing.

Explore how the Wesleyan understanding of salvation emphasizes God’s grace at every stage, the question of free will, and the believer’s call to holiness. Learn how John Wesley’s insights into salvation continue to inspire Methodists and Christians around the world to pursue a life marked by faith, love, and spiritual growth.

This conversation delves into questions like: How does grace lead us to salvation? What role does sanctification play in our spiritual journey? And how can Wesleyan theology offer hope and clarity in today’s world? Perfect for Methodists, pastors, theologians, and anyone curious about Christianity or the Bible, this video will deepen your understanding of God’s saving work and its practical relevance for daily life.

Along with his wife, Diane, Dr. Bill Ury serves as National Ambassador for Holiness with the Salvation Army. He is a sought after speaker and author of multiple books. Before coming to the Salvation Army, Bill served as a pastor and was a professor of theology at Wesley Biblical Seminary for 25 years.

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Did John Calvin misread Paul in Romans 9–11? In this interview with Dr. Jason Staples, we explore how Paul’s argument about Israel challenges the foundations of Calvinistic theology — especially the doctrine of individual predestination.

Dr. Staples, author of Paul and the Resurrection of Israel, shows how Paul is not talking about individuals being eternally elected or condemned, but about God’s covenant faithfulness to Israel as a people even after their rebellion. He offers a vision of election in which Israel is chosen in order to be God's instrument of blessing to the nations. This corporate view of election, grounded in Israel’s story of exile and promised restoration, stands in contrast to the individualistic and deterministic framework often found in Reformed interpretations of Romans 9–11.

If you’re wrestling with questions about predestination, election, and God’s justice — or if you’re looking for a reading of Romans that aligns with Wesleyan and Arminian theology — this conversation offers a thoughtful, biblically grounded alternative.

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