In this episode, Wouter Gheysen, a Systemic Business and Entrepreneur Coach, joins me to explore the invisible forces shaping team dynamics and business growth.

We dive into systemic intelligence, how past experiences influence leadership, and practical techniques for facilitatorsto navigate group dynamics effectively. Wouter shares his journey into facilitation, explains the iceberg metaphor for understanding hidden patterns, and offers real-world exercises to help teams uncover and address underlying challenges.

If you’ve ever wondered why some teams struggle despite great leadership and strategy, this conversation will change how you see team interactions!

⚡️ Key takeaways:

• Team dynamics go beyond the visible—hidden forces shape collaboration.
• The iceberg metaphor helps facilitators recognize underlying influences.
• Systemic work reveals patterns from personal and organizational history.
• Creating a safe space allows teams to address emotional aspects.
• Visual mapping and constellations help make hidden dynamics visible.

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In this episode, Jane Livesey, neuroinclusion advocate, ADHD empowerment coach, and collaboration specialist, joins me to explore how facilitators can create spaces that empower neurodivergent individuals and embrace cognitive diversity in organizations.

Together, we break down common misconceptions about ADHD, the power of neurodiversity in fostering innovation, and practical strategies for making facilitation more inclusive. Jane shares her lived experience as a late-diagnosed ADHDer with autism traits and how her passion human-centered practices shapes the way she creates inclusive spaces.

We also discuss the upcoming Inclusive Facilitation Exchange Conference in London on March 21st, an event dedicated to building awareness and community around neuroinclusive facilitation practices—so be sure to listen until the end!

⚡️ Key takeaways:

• Neurodiversity is a strength—it fuels creativity and better teamwork.
• Small changes make a big impact—clear agendas and flexible formats help everyone.
• Facilitators shape inclusion—we can create spaces where all voices are heard.
• Join the Inclusive Facilitation Exchange on March 21st to learn more!

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Guest: Jane Livesey

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In this episode, Deborah Rim Moiso, facilitator, copy editor for SessionLab, and curator of the State of Facilitation Report 2025, joins me to break down the key trends shaping the future of facilitation.

We discuss the democratization of facilitation, the growing demand for in-house facilitation roles, and the integration of AI into facilitation workflows. With insights from 1,000+ facilitators worldwide, Deborah shares what’s changing in our field and how facilitators can adapt and thrive.

⚡️ Key takeaways:

• Facilitation is gaining recognition as a key skill in job roles across industries
• AI is a tool, not a threat, enhancing facilitation workflows
• Shorter, modular training formats are becoming the norm
• Maintaining momentum after sessions remains a challenge
• The future of facilitation is human-led, tech-enhanced

⚠️ Don’t miss this episode—it’s packed with essential insights for facilitators looking to future-proof their practice!

Guest: Deborah Rim Moiso | Sessionlab

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In this episode, Emily Gardner, facilitator and author of The Path of the Guide, joins me to explore Chapter 3 – Creating the Map of her upcoming book. We dive into the art of structuring workshops, balancing energy dynamics, and using Parkinson’s Law to create focus and momentum. Emily shares practical strategies for mapping out sessionsthat lead to clarity, engagement, and real impact in corporate facilitation.

⚡️ Discover why energy management, flexibility, and structured preparation are key to running effective workshops.

⚠️ Don’t miss this episode—it’s packed with practical insights for facilitators looking to refine their approach!

Guest: Emily Gardner | Facilitator & Author

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