David Gornoski is joined by Jean-Michel Oughourlian and Gil Bailie. The two talk about the latest and upcoming books; vertical and horizontal spirituality; how we can receive grace; the battle over secretness in the Catholic church; mimesis in the liturgy; the road to peace in Ukraine; the normalization of carnival and self-creation; how evil exists; how Rene Girard's "Things Hidden Since the Foundation of the World" was written; and more.

Buy Mr. Oughourlian's latest book Alterity here. Check out the Cornerstone Forum here. Visit A Neighbor's Choice website at aneighborschoice.com