David Gornoski is joined by Professor Mattias Desmet, psychologist and author of the upcoming book "The Psychology of Totalitarianism." What is "mass formation" theory and why is it being brought up in light of the pandemic? How is mass formation perpetuated? What are some of the differences between a totalitarian state and a classic dictatorship? How can we stop the emergence of mass formation? Listen to the full conversation to find out.

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