Carl Wieman is a professor of physics at Stanford Uni- versity, professor in the Stanford Graduate School of Education, and a DRC professor in the Stanford Univer- sity School of Engineering. In 2001, he—along with Eric Allin Cornell, Wolfgang Ketterle, and their teams—was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics “for the achievement of Bose–Einstein condensation in dilute gases of alkali atoms, and for early fundamental studies of the properties of the condensates.” He was also a recipient of the 2020 Yidan Prize for education research.
His indefatigable work to revolutionize the way professors teach—and students learn—was the subject of our conver- sation. The first question I asked was, “If somebody says,
‘I have good news for you and bad news for you,’ which do you want to hear first?”
Without skipping a beat, he said he’d want the bad news because “it turns out negative feedback contributes much more to learning than positive feedback does.” Wieman himself is dedicated to continued learning. This is only one of the qualities I find so inspiring in him. We are all educators and leaders, just in different ways, jobs, and positions. And it is impossible to be a good educator and leader without also being a good student. As Carl argues, one of the things we have to learn is how to teach. The field of teaching needs better best practices. We need to work smarter, not harder.
I admire the way Carl is now applying the same mental tenacity and clarity of purpose he used in the laboratory to his work in education. He realized that teaching is not dissimilar to the processes by which he conducted research—namely, that both are problem-solving exercises and involve certain hypotheses that need to be reexamined. As Carl points out, it’s important to question assumptions and look at things in new ways. He argues that teachers have to be students and have to continue learning—and that they are not currently doing a good job of it. This is disruptive. The bad news: Carl equates current teaching styles to bloodletting. The good news: he doesn’t think that teaching well will ultimately take much more time than we’re currently spending.
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